Defensive Adjustments 10 Personnel- Zone Read

[jmfb]

EZE had a very good post last week about teams running zone read when they spread out in 10 personnel ( 1 back and no Tight Ends)

He said that NU was staying in their base 1 High Safety look and moving the LBs out into coverage, or changing personell so we are left with just 1 LB in the box.

Well early on from about maybe the 9-10 min mark of the first quarter until about midway through the 3rd quarter Illinois exploited NU just the way EZE described last week.

The play was there for the taking and they were getting 7-8 yards on the base zone and zone read out of that alignment. The DBs and LBs would be run off, the safeties were staying in their 2 high look and then it was either 5 hats on 5 bodies or when they ran the read, 5 hats of 4 bodies, because you leave the backside DE unblocked. So they were able to get a double team on the playside DE and then a hat on a hat- our best defender double teamed.

Once the adjustment was made of bringing a safety up, they stopped running it.

Every team we play from here on out will try to get us to align the same way.

It begs the question, are we really that weak in our coverage that we cant put the right number of defenders in the box on spread plays? Or is Bo so worried about deep passes that he is willing to get gashed on runs when teams spread us out like that? Does he not trust our secondary?

 

[caveman99]

Bo has consistently been willing to live with giving up yards to prevent points. His big emphasis has always been in preventing big plays because he believes that forcing a team to drive down the length of the field bit by bit significantly reduces the odds of them scoring. This is why he would prefer to play a 2 high look.

 

[jmfb]

Why Illinois didnt just live off that play and look I just dont get

They were consistently killing it, I guess hoping it would be there whenever they needed it instead of running it every single down, so the adjustment wouldnt be made

But when they were going into the wind AND gashing us on that, it made little sense to me- to not bring the safety down

But Bo makes a lot more $$ than me, so what do I know

Not sure why these posts dont get more reads

Its just easier to bash the players saying they cant tackle, arent trying or cant get off blocks

The numbers on this make it almost impossible to stop, no matter who you are

 

[EZ-E]

This is absolutely my biggest fear against NW and even Minnesota. If they go 10 and we have two high safeties it is just too easy.

I feel teams will play chess with us on this because they know what looks we will show and they'll run it until we drop that safety into the box and then try to exploit us over the top.

 

[EZ-E]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

 

[kchusker_chris]

They also got us out of this formation w/ the cross pattern forcing a LBer to step up into pass protection. I never understood why the LBer doesn't bump that guy off his route. Every time Santos waited for him to run in front of him then gave chase. David (Lavonte) used to defend this well. No one really has since.

 

[Warrior10]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

Was that the one where Ciante got the sack?

 

[Warrior10]

One big reason for why I see us get gashed a lot on runs in young LB's still filling the wrong holes. Gerry guesses the wrong hole a lot if you really study the film, Santos doesn't guess the wrong hole as much as just hesitates too long, Afalava and Rose did good this game but even they filled wrong holes/didn't maintain their position on a few bigger runs. All stuff that, imo, will come with more experience....we saw what Afalava and even Rose did as they built more confidence.

 

[EZ-E]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

Was that the one where Ciante got the sack?

Yup. We used it a lot in 2009 and 2010 as well. But you notice that we had good safety play both years we ran it a ton.

 

[Warrior10]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

Was that the one where Ciante got the sack?

Yup. We used it a lot in 2009 and 2010 as well. But you notice that we had good safety play both years we ran it a ton.

I honestly think we only brought 6 guys that play...Moss just blew up the interior. I'm gunna go back and check though.

 

[EZ-E]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

Was that the one where Ciante got the sack?

Yup. We used it a lot in 2009 and 2010 as well. But you notice that we had good safety play both years we ran it a ton.

I honestly think we only brought 6 guys that play...Moss just blew up the interior. I'm gunna go back and check though.

You could be right. But it is a variation of the old "TigerCat" that the Cowboys used in the 90s. Which is where Bo developed the "Spinner" packages.

 

[Warrior10]

We did in fact finally run that spinner technique that we hadn't seen in a long time were we sent 7. But it was on 3rd and goal from the 10 and there really weren't any vertical threats.

Was that the one where Ciante got the sack?

Yup. We used it a lot in 2009 and 2010 as well. But you notice that we had good safety play both years we ran it a ton.

I honestly think we only brought 6 guys that play...Moss just blew up the interior. I'm gunna go back and check though.

You could be right. But it is a variation of the old "TigerCat" that the Cowboys used in the 90s. Which is where Bo developed the "Spinner" packages.

Nope, my mistake. Santos got caught up right at the line and was the 7th that I didn't see.

 

[Warrior10]

One personnel package that I have been waiting to kill us happened on the Leroy Alexander fumble recovery. It's when we are walking Randy Gregory around and we take him to the opposite end and line him up by the other DE. This leaves Thad Randle positioned between the tackle and guard on the other side....having Thad on the "edge" means no outside contain. It always had me worried when I've saw it throughout the year and Illinois caught on too...thankfully Cooper made a hell of a play 20 yards downfield.

 

[EZ-E]

One personnel package that I have been waiting to kill us happened on the Leroy Alexander fumble recovery. It's when we are walking Randy Gregory around and we take him to the opposite end and line him up by the other DE. This leaves Thad Randle positioned between the tackle and guard on the other side....having Thad on the "edge" means no outside contain. It always had me worried when I've saw it throughout the year and Illinois caught on too...thankfully Cooper made a hell of a play 20 yards downfield.

I know the EXACT thing you are talking about. Thad is lined up in between the 3 and the 5 technique and Scheelhaase did a good job of getting them in the right play for the right defense. They got a double on Thad and he was going for a ways.

 

[Warrior10]

One personnel package that I have been waiting to kill us happened on the Leroy Alexander fumble recovery. It's when we are walking Randy Gregory around and we take him to the opposite end and line him up by the other DE. This leaves Thad Randle positioned between the tackle and guard on the other side....having Thad on the "edge" means no outside contain. It always had me worried when I've saw it throughout the year and Illinois caught on too...thankfully Cooper made a hell of a play 20 yards downfield.

I know the EXACT thing you are talking about. Thad is lined up in between the 3 and the 5 technique and Scheelhaase did a good job of getting them in the right play for the right defense. They got a double on Thad and he was going for a ways.

Yup, it was only a matter of time before someone figured it out. We have to change that or we will give up big runs on that set.