Does Coach Riley land commit OG Jalin Barnett if he's still at OreST?

[darkhorse85]

Nice to see we steal him out from under Bob Stoops as well. For me living in Tulsa - Priceless

I'm not so sure OU had room for him but don't quote me on that.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.

If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.
If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

We should be finishing more times than not top 15 recruiting class wise with an occasional top 10 and an occasional top 20ish

 

[Minnesota_husker]

I dont think he ends up there. OSU wasnt elite enough and far too long distance.

That being said, we dont get a sniff of this kid if Riley isnt our coach.

Riley seems to make great relationships with kids and one of the biggest reasons he couldnt get some was location and OSU wasnt high level.

He is showing off his ability to close these kids.

I love how aggressive him and his staff are when they find someone they like. It seems like we are seeing a new profile every few hours. I love it!

 

[The Dude]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

It's pretty common for a team's best player to play runningback in high school. Good runningbacks are a dime a dozen. That should never be a problem. I think the cupboard is kind of bare where it really matters - offensive line and in the front 7 on defense. Collins is good for a big play or two per game, but I keep waiting for Valentine and McMullen to show up, given all the hype. The linebacker situation is dire.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

It's pretty common for a team's best player to play runningback in high school. Good runningbacks are a dime a dozen. That should never be a problem. I think the cupboard is kind of bare where it really matters - offensive line and in the front 7 on defense. Collins is good for a big play or two per game, but I keep waiting for Valentine and McMullen to show up, given all the hype. The linebacker situation is dire.

Valentine and McMullen were held back by the scheme. Under Bo's philosophy, Valentine, Collins, McMullen, and even Gregory to an extent, their impact is NEVER gonna be reflected on the stat sheet. If youre gazin for tackles, sacks, TFLs and so on, youre gonna deem these guys as not good. But the fact of the matter is this year, for abut 95% of time, Collins and Valenting were awesome. They were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. McMullen had issues at times controlling that edge and with aggresiveness on bootlegs, esp against McNeese st, but overall he was pretty solid this past season. The issues were behind them. The fits were bad because of the way we played, if they werent technically sound all across, it looked bad. And that Wisconsin game was a total embarassment.

Now, under this new philosophy, you should expect to see more impact from them. Especially Collins. Whenever that guy was given a green light (or just decided to go rogue and make something happen-seriously. would is surprise you?) he wreaked havoc. he's got Warren Sapp-like disrupting tendancies. Unblockable when he decides to raise hell. Seems the same with Valentine. how many time have we seen Valentine completely blow up a guard and literally run them over? Now theyre gonna be playing in a scheme that will ask these guys to one gap, penestrate, raise hell, disrupt the play, and not have to worry so much about gap integrity and specific leverage techniques. Less thinking. More raising hell. If they dont make the play, we got backers and safeties flyin all over to the ball behind.

My only concern with that is being susceptible to big play play action. But I also think we got the skill and athleticism in the back four to lock down and cover.

 

[HuskersNC949597]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

To further illustrate that point, I read elsewhere a few years ago from some random dude on facebook that Darin Erstad would not be able to recruit, his name wouldn't be enough to overcome the Midwest weather and having to play in the perceived hot garbage heap that is Big 10 baseball. His first full recruiting class was ranked 11th in the nation. Like, the highest in Nebraska baseball history

It can be done.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.

If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

I'm not sure who you are referring to in the bold quote above.

My point is that I'm excited about the new staff. I think they will be able to improve recruiting and I think we can get the types of classes we all want because they are experienced guys that know what it's like to over come disadvantages in the recruiting world. NOW, they have far fewer disadvantages than they had in their last place. It should be exciting.

However, I have read a number of posts lately that claim Bo's staff never took recruiting seriously. My point was, at the beginning that was true. However, he had a wakeup call and they worked very hard at it the last couple of years. No, I'm not saying it was where it needed to be. However, I think a lot of that was because he already had a certain reputation be it losing 4 games or his hot head that kept him out of some living rooms. He had some coaches that worked their butts off on the trail the last couple of years.

Hopefully, we now have a staff that works their butts off AND can close on the recruits we want.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.
If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

I'm not sure who you are referring to in the bold quote above.

Myself
#accountability

 

[BigRedBuster]

Interesting Riley was able to get the top-rated recruit of the class in just over a month. Can't see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

it's really kinda laughable if you think about it. Regardless of prior connection to the guy or not. Bo had 1 top 100 committ in seven years. Riley's got one in a month. Seriously. And i was on the improved recruiting bandwagon, cuz it was improving, but it still wasnt good enough. And the excuses? Theyre garbage to me anymore. You look what Tim Miles has done, and that is the main reason for my dwindling patience for Bo's recruiting. There is no excuses. And obviously this guy gets it.

I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.
If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

I'm not sure who you are referring to in the bold quote above.

Myself
#accountability

Got it...GBR!!!!!!

 

[Count 'Bility]

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.


I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.




If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

I'm not sure who you are referring to in the bold quote above.

My point is that I'm excited about the new staff. I think they will be able to improve recruiting and I think we can get the types of classes we all want because they are experienced guys that know what it's like to over come disadvantages in the recruiting world. NOW, they have far fewer disadvantages than they had in their last place. It should be exciting.

However, I have read a number of posts lately that claim Bo's staff never took recruiting seriously. My point was, at the beginning that was true. However, he had a wakeup call and they worked very hard at it the last couple of years. No, I'm not saying it was where it needed to be. However, I think a lot of that was because he already had a certain reputation be it losing 4 games or his hot head that kept him out of some living rooms. He had some coaches that worked their butts off on the trail the last couple of years.

Hopefully, we now have a staff that works their butts off AND can close on the recruits we want.

Agreed. When Bo realized he had no idea what he was doing...he hired recruiting consultants to help him learn.

I'm all for him being gone....but let's not make crap up about him and rewrite history so we can continue to pile it on him.

I hope you guys arent puttin me in the group doing such thing. Simply the point I'm trying to make is that even thought recruiting improved, I still say it shoulda been better. I know the guys worked hard on it and all, but that doesnt mean it was the best it could been. And to see what Erstad and Miles have done, and even Connie Yori for that matter, tells me that the supposed excuses about Nebraska not being able to recruit are a copout. I have no problem expecting better.

 

[TAKODA]

I said his recruiting was improving. He was in on and getting higher profile guys. But my point is that there was a band of excuses that although we were getting some good guys, our classes were still in the 20-30 range. There's no excuse in my opinion that we cant land top 10 classes. Bo's 2013 class was 12th on scout. So he was close. Callahan did a top 5 once. There's no excuse. I'm sorry, but looking back and being revisionist and backpeddling about it, yeah, Bo shoulda done better. Esp. in his later years. The classes shouldve been filled and the talent shoulda been better. it was just part of the inexperience factor of course.


I'm done defending Bo. But, let's not forget that he did have a very highly ranked RB committed before he was fired. Bo crapped the bed the first few classes. He picked it up the last few classes. This is why we have depth problems but the cupboard isn't bare.




If Tim miles can come in and put together top whatever classes in a program with zero history, zero tradition, and some fancy ipads in the lockers, then there's no excuse why the football program cant do the same. They got ipads in the lockers too.

I'm not sure who you are referring to in the bold quote above.

My point is that I'm excited about the new staff. I think they will be able to improve recruiting and I think we can get the types of classes we all want because they are experienced guys that know what it's like to over come disadvantages in the recruiting world. NOW, they have far fewer disadvantages than they had in their last place. It should be exciting.

However, I have read a number of posts lately that claim Bo's staff never took recruiting seriously. My point was, at the beginning that was true. However, he had a wakeup call and they worked very hard at it the last couple of years. No, I'm not saying it was where it needed to be. However, I think a lot of that was because he already had a certain reputation be it losing 4 games or his hot head that kept him out of some living rooms. He had some coaches that worked their butts off on the trail the last couple of years.

Hopefully, we now have a staff that works their butts off AND can close on the recruits we want.

Agreed. When Bo realized he had no idea what he was doing...he hired recruiting consultants to help him learn.

I'm all for him being gone....but let's not make crap up about him and rewrite history so we can continue to pile it on him.

I hope you guys arent puttin me in the group doing such thing. Simply the point I'm trying to make is that even thought recruiting improved, I still say it shoulda been better. I know the guys worked hard on it and all, but that doesnt mean it was the best it could been. And to see what Erstad and Miles have done, and even Connie Yori for that matter, tells me that the supposed excuses about Nebraska not being able to recruit are a copout. I have no problem expecting better.

Nor do I. and your point is spot on! +1

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Sort of on topic:

Has anyone heard a good explanation of why Gary Andersen left Wisconsin for Oregon State?

 

[Count 'Bility]

Sort of on topic:

Has anyone heard a good explanation of why Gary Andersen left Wisconsin for Oregon State?

Except for the perceived need to get out from under Alvarez's thumb, no, I havent.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Also, i'll throw this out there. I've seen here before and kinda agree. Bo's staff was a bunch of relatively young guys with families and so on. Gotta think that may have had an impact. I know, the constant grind is part of the game. But compare that to this new staff with a bunch of older fellas with no immediate families aside from a wife, and it's easy to say that they dont have anything better to do. if that makes sense, generally.