Don't Judge New Staff by Resumes

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In “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” Robert Redford and Paul Newman, playing the titular characters, peered down into the canyon to watch the superposse – yes, precisely that - on their tail. They couldn't exactly make them out, although they sure as hell wanted to. Who are those guys?
It's not quite that dramatic for Nebraska media and fans as we await the official announcement of Bo Pelini's revamped coaching staff. Half of it, after all, didn't change.

But half of it did, and let's face it: Who are these guys?
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TheCheshireCat said:
In “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” Robert Redford and Paul Newman, playing the titular characters, peered down into the canyon to watch the superposse – yes, precisely that - on their tail. They couldn't exactly make them out, although they sure as hell wanted to. Who are those guys?
It's not quite that dramatic for Nebraska media and fans as we await the official announcement of Bo Pelini's revamped coaching staff. Half of it, after all, didn't change.

But half of it did, and let's face it: Who are these guys?
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http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2011/02/11/4d55652322c0f
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OK, their resumes suck, so were they hired because of their "intangible assets"?

 
How else are we supposed to rate these guys right now besides their resumes? :dunno They haven’t coached a down at NU so we have nothing to go but their pasts. :blink: :madash

 
newearthhusker said:
How else are we supposed to rate these guys right now besides their resumes? :dunno They haven’t coached a down at NU so we have nothing to go but their pasts. :blink: :madash
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No kidding! If we arent supposed to judge them by their resume then what exactly are we supposed to judge them by? Or is Mckewon getting to the deeper point that we really shouldnt be judging? But then agian if nobody judged anybody else then everybody would just be able to do whatever they hell they wanted and it would be anarchy.

 
The resumes are not too impressive. I am glad Bo has his guys. Time for Bo to sink or swim with his staff, golf coach included.

 
I pass on the puff. Bo's seat will self combust next season if this seemingly timid series of moves flops.

 
LOLOLOLOL at the attempted comparisons from Leach/Kelly to Fisher/Garrison. Kelly had worked as college assistant, albeit lower division, for 16 years with 8 extremely successful years as an OC at New Hampshire. Leach was a collegiate OC for 10 years and had two record setting years at Kentucky (enough to get Tim Couch drafted no. 1 overall). Both were definitely rising stars, at least had experience coaching CFB (looking at you Garrison) and compared to Fisher and Garrison's resumes they're not sparkling, they're blinding. What. A. Joke.

 
I think it was a response to so many people feeling like we needed to hire a John Gruden or big name to fill these spots. I suppose we could have gotten one big name for the OC but doing that runs a risk if the coaches don't trust each other and don't gel as a staff. The other positions it really wasn't realistic but to be honest. . .average Husker fan is a moron who doesn't understand football, coaching, recruiting, etc like we think we really do. The average fan is too emotional and not rational. I think if people look around the actual sports world they will see the staffs at even Alabama are made up of solid. . no splash hire coaches. I think there was a story the packers even had a coach this year that was coaching high school before they hired him.

People always want to date the prom queen but the reality is . . .we have a better chance of scoring and being happy with the band nerd.

 
da skers said:
I think it was a response to so many people feeling like we needed to hire a John Gruden or big name to fill these spots. I suppose we could have gotten one big name for the OC but doing that runs a risk if the coaches don't trust each other and don't gel as a staff. The other positions it really wasn't realistic but to be honest. . .average Husker fan is a moron who doesn't understand football, coaching, recruiting, etc like we think we really do. The average fan is too emotional and not rational. I think if people look around the actual sports world they will see the staffs at even Alabama are made up of solid. . no splash hire coaches. I think there was a story the packers even had a coach this year that was coaching high school before they hired him.

People always want to date the prom queen but the reality is . . .we have a better chance of scoring and being happy with the band nerd.
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This one time, at band camp...

 
da skers said:
I think it was a response to so many people feeling like we needed to hire a John Gruden or big name to fill these spots. I suppose we could have gotten one big name for the OC but doing that runs a risk if the coaches don't trust each other and don't gel as a staff. The other positions it really wasn't realistic but to be honest. . .average Husker fan is a moron who doesn't understand football, coaching, recruiting, etc like we think we really do. The average fan is too emotional and not rational. I think if people look around the actual sports world they will see the staffs at even Alabama are made up of solid. . no splash hire coaches. I think there was a story the packers even had a coach this year that was coaching high school before they hired him.

People always want to date the prom queen but the reality is . . .we have a better chance of scoring and being happy with the band nerd.
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I don't think anyone was really expecting a Gruden level hire. Scott Frost would only be splashy because of the Nebraska connections, I don't think he's necessarily a big name. Other guys like Warriner and Phillips were reasonable hires for a team competing for a national championship. There's a difference between a big, splashy hire, an expected hire, and what we got. I would be shocked if a single team in the top 15 has hired a coach who has no previous experience (Garrison). Of course most programs aren't filled with splash hires, there aren't that many splash hires to go around, but simply reducing them to "solid coaches." Isn't exactly accurate. The top programs are largely filled with guys with extensive pro and college experience. Guys who've spent the last decade winning BCS bowls and coaching all-americans. Not coaching pop warner.

Compare our situation with Texas and LSU for instance. In order to revamp their offenses LSU and Texas both go out and get guys who've been coaching at top 10 programs and winning BCS bowls. LSU hires a guy like Kragthorpe. Texas gets Harsin from Boise. They get guys who are some of the best in the business, while we settle for unproven gambles because they're Bo's buddies.

 
TemporarySaint said:
I don't think anyone was really expecting a Gruden level hire. Scott Frost would only be splashy because of the Nebraska connections, I don't think he's necessarily a big name. Other guys like Warriner and Phillips were reasonable hires for a team competing for a national championship. There's a difference between a big, splashy hire, an expected hire, and what we got. I would be shocked if a single team in the top 15 has hired a coach who has no previous experience (Garrison). Of course most programs aren't filled with splash hires, there aren't that many splash hires to go around, but simply reducing them to "solid coaches." Isn't exactly accurate. The top programs are largely filled with guys with extensive pro and college experience. Guys who've spent the last decade winning BCS bowls and coaching all-americans. Not coaching pop warner.

Compare our situation with Texas and LSU for instance. In order to revamp their offenses LSU and Texas both go out and get guys who've been coaching at top 10 programs and winning BCS bowls. LSU hires a guy like Kragthorpe. Texas gets Harsin from Boise. They get guys who are some of the best in the business, while we settle for unproven gambles because they're Bo's buddies.
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Texas hired Applewhite as an assistant when he had no previous coaching experience. How is hiring Garrison any different?

Edit: I am incorrect. Applewhite was hired at Syracuse not Texas.

 
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RedDenver said:
TemporarySaint said:
I don't think anyone was really expecting a Gruden level hire. Scott Frost would only be splashy because of the Nebraska connections, I don't think he's necessarily a big name. Other guys like Warriner and Phillips were reasonable hires for a team competing for a national championship. There's a difference between a big, splashy hire, an expected hire, and what we got. I would be shocked if a single team in the top 15 has hired a coach who has no previous experience (Garrison). Of course most programs aren't filled with splash hires, there aren't that many splash hires to go around, but simply reducing them to "solid coaches." Isn't exactly accurate. The top programs are largely filled with guys with extensive pro and college experience. Guys who've spent the last decade winning BCS bowls and coaching all-americans. Not coaching pop warner.

Compare our situation with Texas and LSU for instance. In order to revamp their offenses LSU and Texas both go out and get guys who've been coaching at top 10 programs and winning BCS bowls. LSU hires a guy like Kragthorpe. Texas gets Harsin from Boise. They get guys who are some of the best in the business, while we settle for unproven gambles because they're Bo's buddies.
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Texas hired Applewhite as an assistant when he had no previous coaching experience. How is hiring Garrison any different?
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Applewhite was OC at Rice. And before that a position coach at Syracuse.

 
nuance said:
RedDenver said:
TemporarySaint said:
I don't think anyone was really expecting a Gruden level hire. Scott Frost would only be splashy because of the Nebraska connections, I don't think he's necessarily a big name. Other guys like Warriner and Phillips were reasonable hires for a team competing for a national championship. There's a difference between a big, splashy hire, an expected hire, and what we got. I would be shocked if a single team in the top 15 has hired a coach who has no previous experience (Garrison). Of course most programs aren't filled with splash hires, there aren't that many splash hires to go around, but simply reducing them to "solid coaches." Isn't exactly accurate. The top programs are largely filled with guys with extensive pro and college experience. Guys who've spent the last decade winning BCS bowls and coaching all-americans. Not coaching pop warner.

Compare our situation with Texas and LSU for instance. In order to revamp their offenses LSU and Texas both go out and get guys who've been coaching at top 10 programs and winning BCS bowls. LSU hires a guy like Kragthorpe. Texas gets Harsin from Boise. They get guys who are some of the best in the business, while we settle for unproven gambles because they're Bo's buddies.
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Texas hired Applewhite as an assistant when he had no previous coaching experience. How is hiring Garrison any different?
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Applewhite was OC at Rice. And before that a position coach at Syracuse.
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You are correct, my mistake. He was hired as the QB coach at Syracuse not Texas.

 
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