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Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
We forget that it is perfectly acceptable in modern America to loudly declare your support for someone now -- to protect your business interests -- and then fire them later when you have your ducks in order.
Happens all the time and few are shocked with an AD, Board of Directors, CEO or politician goes back on their word.
Most likely explanation is genuine indecision, with a tiny mix of power play in letting Bo twist in the wind for a week or two.
Happens all the time and few are shocked with an AD, Board of Directors, CEO or politician goes back on their word.
Most likely explanation is genuine indecision, with a tiny mix of power play in letting Bo twist in the wind for a week or two.
Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
I'd like the Bo-leavers and Bo-lievers to agree on one thing: Bo Pelini still has the chance to coach himself out of this.
Starting with the Gator Bowl. Win or lose, that needs to be a team playing its heart out for four quarters, backed by well-considered offensive and defensive scheme.
Then next season needs to look better than this season.
If that happens, I don't see the need to jump on the coaching carousel.
If Bo is motivated by making every miserable ****-sucker who doubts him eat his words - myself included - I can live with that.
Can't honestly predict what will happen next myself.
Starting with the Gator Bowl. Win or lose, that needs to be a team playing its heart out for four quarters, backed by well-considered offensive and defensive scheme.
Then next season needs to look better than this season.
If that happens, I don't see the need to jump on the coaching carousel.
If Bo is motivated by making every miserable ****-sucker who doubts him eat his words - myself included - I can live with that.
Can't honestly predict what will happen next myself.
kchusker_chris
All-American
I agree, but I don't think it's gonna start w/ the Gator bowl. I see something similar to that Washington bowl game happening again. I'm going to do my best not to read into anything, positive or negative, in regards to the bowl game. Bo's coaching for his job next year though, no doubt about that. I think Hujan had a thread during the offseason that said something similar and he was bashed for it...yet it came pretty close to happening. I am guessing if he starts a similar thread this offseason, people will be far more logical about the state of Bo's job security.
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Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
If it does, then we have to retire the notion that Bo Pelini is the right man for the job and just needs more time.
Bowl games are tricky, especially when both teams come in disappointed and thinking they deserved a better season and a better bowl.
The lag time can screw up your rhythm and focus and motivation.
You know the cure for this? Good head coaching.
Nebraska's utterly lifeless performance in its rematch against Washington in 2010 was the first time I considered that Bo Pelini might be the problem.
Getting the team up for the game is what head coaches do.
I don't consider the Gator Bowl meaningless.
It'sNotAFakeID
All-American
carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
Because we are adults. In Pelini's case at least, an adult who is extremely well compensated for a very public job.
His behavior reflects poorly on the university and on Nebraska fans everywhere. You can support him as a coach while still admitting that he needs to grow the @#$@ up.
It'sNotAFakeID
All-American
I was just curious as to why. I've said it other places, but just because you are paid millions of dollars to do something doesn't automatically make you an expert in doing that thing.
Obviously, you are paid millions of dollars because you are believed to be able to do a thing (aka coaching and winning). I admit that Bo has some growing up to do.
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Cina
Five-Star Recruit
It seemed to me like the rumorwhirlwindstravaganza during the season was centered not only on the administration's feelings about Bo, but also whether or not Bo would leave of his own accord. Bo finally had to come out and tell the players he hadn't resigned due to the magnitude of speculation from the fans, and a few weeks later Eichorst had to come out and tell everyone he wasn't firing Bo due to the magnitude of speculation from the fans. There's one variable consistent through both of these events and I'll give you a hint, it's the fans.
True enough. But on the first point, I think that SE might have thought that so long as we were competitive in the games, the won-lost total would be acceptable as the product of adversity, even if it was eight or even seven wins. Also, I just don't think the perception of that hat swing thing was as bad as we Husker fans think. He protested the call and swung his hat.. I think most say big deal and that it would be the equivlent of a player spiking the ball in protest to a call. Once again, I just think fans, and I got to say I was one of them, added what I saw as poor form by Bo to a list of things that I had already determined were bad. And the sum of that for me was fire the coach. WIth SE, I think he started with Bo being the right guy and saw nothing, even the 8-4 record, sideline behavior, and media ripping, that was enough to change his mind.
I think we should look at the "public" bit as to why the fans don't appreciate what Bo did on the sideline vs. Iowa. I work for a corporation that requires me to watch videos... one of them is on sexual harrassment policy, and the other one involves, to a large degree, instruction on how NOT TO EMBARASS the company in public. The video says for instance, don't go to a party and get drunk while wearing company apparel...and there were many other instructions.I was just curious as to why. I've said it other places, but just because you are paid millions of dollars to do something doesn't automatically make you an expert in doing that thing.
Obviously, you are paid millions of dollars because you are believed to be able to do a thing (aka coaching and winning). I admit that Bo has some growing up to do.
Almost all of what Bo does is public.
When he acts this way... I think people think to themselves... If I did that at work I would be fired.
Then they think maybe Bo should be treated the same.
It'sNotAFakeID
All-American
+1 fair enough. I think all of this is irreconcilable. Some people are going to think that what he does isn't bad, other people are going to think that what he does is really bad.I think we should look at the "public" bit as to why the fans don't appreciate what Bo did on the sideline vs. Iowa. I work for a corporation that requires me to watch videos... one of them is on sexual harrassment policy, and the other one involves, to a large degree, instruction on how NOT TO EMBARASS the company in public. The video says for instance, don't go to a party and get drunk while wearing company apparel...and there were many other instructions.I was just curious as to why. I've said it other places, but just because you are paid millions of dollars to do something doesn't automatically make you an expert in doing that thing.
Obviously, you are paid millions of dollars because you are believed to be able to do a thing (aka coaching and winning). I admit that Bo has some growing up to do.
Almost all of what Bo does is public.
When he acts this way... I think people think to themselves... If I did that at work I would be fired.
Then they think maybe Bo should be treated the same.
kchusker_chris
All-American
I don't think any of us work in a position where competition fuels success to the point that it does for a college coach. I have no idea how I would handle myself on the sideline. If I can't handle watching the game in my living room without blowing a gasket (which often I can't) - I'm sure I'd have trouble coaching the current team of Huskers. However, I have no problem in the workplace, etc. I'm not sure that is an excuse for Bo, but I certainly know that comparing what he does, with what us corporate slaves do is not really apples-apples.
I personally don't have a huge problem with the blowup itself. I have more of a problem that it happens when he knows how negatively it's viewed. Bo's absolutely correct when he called out Ferentz. He went ballistic for a while during that game, yet the cameras gave it 4 seconds of play and we never heard a peep out of it. But Bo earned that camera time he gets. It's his own doing. Fair or not, it's because of repeated blowups. So it doesn't matter if the blowup is minor, or if everyone else does it...the fact is that Bo can't do it. Yet he continues to. And that's what I have a problem with.