Evaluating where Iowa is
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Landlord
Banned
Nah. The talent they have they hand crafted in a way that maximizes the least. They overachieve because the talent they have on the roster wasn't there at the start.
swmohusker
All-Conference
AJ Epenesa was not hand crafted. Wirfs was also a beast coming out of HS. Some guys they develop, some are pretty talented players.
JJ Husker
Assistant Coach
How do you quantify that they have much better talent than their recruiting rankings? I'm curious what you base that statement on.
I'll buy that they have done a better job developing players and that they know what they are and what they want to do but "much better talent"....based on what?
They just look like better athletes than we have. We called a bad game, and AM played bad, but we played harder than any other game of the year. Iowa has some talent, and their freshman RB looked really good. Something we havent been able to say ourselves. Nebraska hasn't had a good RB in a while.
JJ Husker
Assistant Coach
I won't dispute any of that. We can say they've played better, been more productive, have developed better, have beaten us, outcoached us and all kinds of other things. But you can't say they have much better talent than us. That simply isn't true. Their talent is what their rankings say it is. They've just done more with what they have.
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Landlord
Banned
JJ Husker
Assistant Coach
The statement he made was that they have much better talent than their recruiting rankings. My point was that their talent is what it is, they simply have developed and done more with what they have. Unless somebody has developed a newfangled measure of talent? Or maybe he’s going off “the eye test” :dunno
McGuillotine
Four-Star Recruit
Here is Iowa
huskerfan333157
Starter
I am I
All-Conference
Can we just be sick of them beating us every year and call it a rivalry yet? I want to beat Iowa so bad I feel like I’m 10 yrs old and cried when OU got the best of us with Bosworth and his ugly a$$ color striped haircut lines. I only measure Wisc a rival because we MUST beat them to be in B1G champ games; they’re way out of our league.
look, Iowa gets it done. Every single player knows exactly what they need done, and they do it. On that note, I don’t ‘feel’ like Nebraska has every player dialed in to just DO THEIR DAMN JOB. Or the long term developed talent.
you think Nebraska got WR talent in the 90s here because Osborne promised them 80 catches over a career?? Hell no. They came to catch 3 passes a game for big yards and WIN the damn game, and play for Bowls and championships, by blocking their asses off and making most of their opportunities when the ball did come their way.
we need players here who can be developed, work their asses off while biding their time, and buy into a whole program philosophy. Then you get the 2-3 players a year who can transform a 9-10 win team into a 12-14 win team. That takes a SYSTEM. And that’s what Iowa has, a tried and true system and program that players know exactly what they’re signing on for and have the patience to wait for “their turn”.
That’s the difference: a long game, long term approach, marathon, system, program...
I believe Frost gets this too and is doing it the right way, even tho results (wins) haven’t materialized yet. But it’s on the way.
look, Iowa gets it done. Every single player knows exactly what they need done, and they do it. On that note, I don’t ‘feel’ like Nebraska has every player dialed in to just DO THEIR DAMN JOB. Or the long term developed talent.
you think Nebraska got WR talent in the 90s here because Osborne promised them 80 catches over a career?? Hell no. They came to catch 3 passes a game for big yards and WIN the damn game, and play for Bowls and championships, by blocking their asses off and making most of their opportunities when the ball did come their way.
we need players here who can be developed, work their asses off while biding their time, and buy into a whole program philosophy. Then you get the 2-3 players a year who can transform a 9-10 win team into a 12-14 win team. That takes a SYSTEM. And that’s what Iowa has, a tried and true system and program that players know exactly what they’re signing on for and have the patience to wait for “their turn”.
That’s the difference: a long game, long term approach, marathon, system, program...
I believe Frost gets this too and is doing it the right way, even tho results (wins) haven’t materialized yet. But it’s on the way.
I admit i haven't looked at the rankings post attrition. But i have looked at OUR roster in great depth. And we have very little talent in our upcoming Junior and Senior classes. Less than Iowa, hell..less than Purdue. When people look at our recruiting rankings they are ignoring attrition..i agree with you on that.
I am sure Iowa had more talent than us last year on the field. I imagine POST-attrution rankings would show that , but simply the eye test made it clear. Iowa has some ballers. It is humbling to say, but Iowa had more talent than us last year, including some young guys. We dont have a running back I have seen, as good as Iowa's freshman. Hopefully Sevion or Scott can be that for us. But lets be honest, we are all excited about RB rated in the 50ish range. We used to have some of the best RBs in the country, now we get giddy over a 40-50th best back in the country. Hopefully a bit of diamonds in the rough.
Toe
All-American
Average rank of the top RB recruit in our last three classes is 22, although the highest-ranked of those was Washington. Losing him hurts, but what can you do in a case like that? <_< More than anything, it probably hurts us in terms of depth, and RB is one of the most important important spots for depth due to high injury potential.
gobiggergoredder
All-American
Look at the Huskers still in the NFL.......
Rex, Ameer, Lavonte....I’m sure there’s more. That talent just flat out hasn’t been on the roster in recent years. You can’t “develop” what you don’t have.
Rex, Ameer, Lavonte....I’m sure there’s more. That talent just flat out hasn’t been on the roster in recent years. You can’t “develop” what you don’t have.