StPaulHusker
Banned
A lot of interesting things on the Shaggybevo site about this.
expansion news
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VectorVictor
Heisman Trophy Winner
Maryland isn't fighting over a GOR, per se--they're fighting over a 150% increase (20M to 50M, IIRC) in exit fees almost overnight as soon as the ACC found out Maryland (and others) were looking to skip town.
Your fight over the GOR is going to happen if anyone tries to leave now, going forward--that's why Texass keeps turning up like a bad penny in these discussions, because the thought is that GORs are something that can be fought and won against, but at considerable expense and time. Texass has the fiscal resources and the manpower to cover both.
And we've known about the B1G looking at Kansas--the scuttlebutt is that Kansas is the Big XII team that told the B1G 'no' before. Granted, that 'no' shouldn't be interpreted as Kansas being happy with the Big XII status quo (they weren't at last check), but I think they wanted a dance partner that wasn't Nebraska to go with.
You're correct about OU/OSU...but it's driven by the state legislature, that T. Boones Farms Pickens has bought and paid for, from most accounts. I suppose if Oklahoma wants to sever ties with their illegitimate brother, and they were willing to get dirty...
...as for Bevo TV, there's been plenty of discussion about that angle before here...in short:
Bevo TV sucks, ESPN knows it, the 'Whorns know it, and the win/win out of conference realignment would be that ESPN gets to re-purpose the network (e.g. a BTN-West owned by ESPN, while Fox continues to own the current BTN, which then becomes BTN-East) , the 'whorns still get their dirty money (any format change or network cancellation by ESPN gives the 'whorns all their money due from the contract), and the B1G gets to 16 with their sixth national, and four of the top five programs of all time, all in one location.
And re-purposing Bevo TV isn't out of the realm of possibility, as it was being actively discussed as something that would happen if Texass would have joined the then-Pac-10.
WoodyHayes1951
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I know Maryland isn't fighting over a GoR. But I think the ACC is.
Not literally but they will make this as painful as possible on Maryland because they know what could happen with other schools even with their GoR.
Not literally but they will make this as painful as possible on Maryland because they know what could happen with other schools even with their GoR.
AgMarauder04
Starter
SO, here's my question...would y'all WANT OU or Texas in the B1G?
WoodyHayes1951
Starter
Money, recruits, more horses in the stable
Bigger and better games. I want 16 teams, no protected rivalries, 10 conference games, east/west, no parity scheduling
I think OU even seen as a "weak school" is a good enough school to benefit from University Agglomeration.
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StPaulHusker
Banned
I would want OU from a rivalry perspective. But I would take Texas from a recruiting standpoint.
My biggest issue with Texas was their need to control how things went. Delany would not let that happen
My biggest issue with Texas was their need to control how things went. Delany would not let that happen
WoodyHayes1951
Starter
unless he lets his hubris get in the way.
I think there are enough smart people in Chicagoland not named Delany that can control the bronco(or Longhorn in this case)
Ratt Mhule
Heisman Trophy Winner
Notre Dame Joe
All-Conference
Maybe Shaggy TV isn't must see tv, but I think UT is all in with it. They've been clear that that the network travels with them wherever they go and I can't see them suddenly giving it up to the BTN. And on the Maryland lawsuit, I suspect there are lawyers billing 1,000 dollars per hour, so I doubt they are in a hurry to settle before jurisdiction is established.
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Any change with Cow TV won't come until the new AD is in the job and has the scope of the land, in terms of big donors and a feel for the rest of admin and coaches. Right now, the TV channel is still seen as a huge coup for branding. This despite the fact that no one can see it, aside from a few thousand homes that are hardcore fans to begin with.
The money is nice, too, but if the money can be increased by dumping the channel and letting ESPN rebrand it, along with a move to a better conference, I could see it happening. But not until a new AD, at least, and probably a new FB coach. By then, the winds of change will be much easier. Also, the GOR in the Big 12 may well be overturned on constitutional grounds, state institutions pledging state money to an exterior organization. A sticky fight, but Texas has the power in the conference. If they can arrange a soft landing for enough schools (and if anyone can, it's Texas), that legal fight might not even come up.
This will all be interesting to watch. I see Texas as the chick we all want to spend a night or three with, because she is the hottest girl on the planet, while at the same time understanding she is utterly crazy, stalkerish, and won't stop until she either gets what she wants or burns the entire landscape into oblivion. Hopefully the B1G can handle Texas better, but past history does not bode well.
I would think Delany, if anyone, can do it. But I have serious doubts.
The money is nice, too, but if the money can be increased by dumping the channel and letting ESPN rebrand it, along with a move to a better conference, I could see it happening. But not until a new AD, at least, and probably a new FB coach. By then, the winds of change will be much easier. Also, the GOR in the Big 12 may well be overturned on constitutional grounds, state institutions pledging state money to an exterior organization. A sticky fight, but Texas has the power in the conference. If they can arrange a soft landing for enough schools (and if anyone can, it's Texas), that legal fight might not even come up.
This will all be interesting to watch. I see Texas as the chick we all want to spend a night or three with, because she is the hottest girl on the planet, while at the same time understanding she is utterly crazy, stalkerish, and won't stop until she either gets what she wants or burns the entire landscape into oblivion. Hopefully the B1G can handle Texas better, but past history does not bode well.
I would think Delany, if anyone, can do it. But I have serious doubts.
Something Clever
Special Teams Player
OU, yes, Texas can go reap what they have sown
TonyStalloni
All-Conference
THIS!!! Texas has worked hard to make their bed. I think they should sleep in it.....alone. Poach Oklahoma and let The Whorns add SMU and Houston to the Big 12. Our recruiting in Texas this year has been decent. 3 kids as of tonight and more coming it sounds.
If I pick one, OU....but would rather have...
OU, Virginia (4x4 team pods to keep rivalries together as much as possible)
