walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
Dude, no worries, it's Herbstreit
It's about on the same level if Mark May's dumb a$$ said something...
Fairley vs suh?!
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It's about on the same level if Mark May's dumb a$$ said something...
HuskerJosh
Starter
If Auburn can get Fairley into school, how the hell do we have so much trouble getting Braylon into school? Did you hear that interview after the game?
T_O_Bull
All-American
On 'Around the Horn' yesterday both Woody Paige and Jackie MacMullen adressed this question and both agreed that SUH was far better than Fairly. MacMullan said 'Fairly is good but SUH is special.' 'SUH should be the Rookie of the Year not just the Defensive Rookie of the Year. He will be a preenial Pro Bowl player.'
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HuskerNLimbo
Five-Star Recruit
The only difference between Suh and Fairly is Suh's ability to speak English. Otherwise, same level.
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BeachBuffs
Starter
Ya'll stressed too much over the comparison, if anything you all should be flattered. When a player comes out with the talent of a Suh then why would other great defensive linemen that are coming out of college not get compared? Nick Fairley is a handful on the field and gives a little extra, I am a huge Denver Broncos fan and would love to see him in a Denver uniform next season, that horrible defense could use someone that gives a little extra. Nick is a good kid, I have been on the sideline with him twice now when he was in highschool at Williamson High in Mobile, Al. He was very respectful and gracious but played and competed superhard. Give me someone like him that goes the extra mile every play over an Albert Haynesworth who is notorious about taking plays off.
bleedNUred
Starter
I like everything but the dirty cheapshot plays he does. And I too wouldn't mind seeing him in a Denver uniform 
HuskerLover23
Walk-on
nuance said:
Nuance, now I know how tempting it was to compare the stats from Suh's senior year compared to Fairley's junior years stats like you did, but lets try again.
Fairley stats
11.5 sacks
60 tackles (36 solo)
24 TFL (106 yds)
21 QB hurries
2 forced fumbles
1 interception
Suh stats
7.5 sacks
76 tackles (39 solo)
16 TFL (85 yds)
6 QB hurries
1 forced fumble
2 interception
So with exception to tackles and solo tackles, which Suh barely edged out Fairley for solo tackles, Fairley's has far more impressive stats his junior year. And as another member mentioned, your team designed your defense around Suh so of course his numbers should be higher, although they aren't. Also take into consideration that Fairley played against much tougher opponents all year long in the SEC. You all can speculate all you want but the numbers don't lie.
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knapplc
International Man of Mystery
Since we're picking nits now, let me ask you - in his Junior year, how long had Fairley been in that system? In Suh's Junior year, how long had he been in that system?
Consistency is a nice luxury. One Suh didn't have, but Fairley did.
kchusker_chris
All-American
The weren't comparing Fairley this year to Suh as a junior - they were comparing him to Suh last year...in which case Suh wins hands down. A large portion of his praise is coming from the NC game. Suh was talked about that way for an entire season. Fairley perhaps could have been better than Suh - had he stayed, but he didn't so now we'll never know. Then again, had the Texas game been the MNC game we wouldn't be having this convo - because Suh's performance would have gone down in history and never been challenged.
...and numbers frequently lie - Nebraska has the 35th ranked offense - which is within 25 YPG of teams like Alabama, USC, Michigan St, Vigrinia Tech and Missouri. Did we look like our offense was comparable to Alabama's this year? NUMBERS.........lie.
...and numbers frequently lie - Nebraska has the 35th ranked offense - which is within 25 YPG of teams like Alabama, USC, Michigan St, Vigrinia Tech and Missouri. Did we look like our offense was comparable to Alabama's this year? NUMBERS.........lie.
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junior4949
All-American
If you're going to play this game, you might as well compare Fairley's freshman stats to Suh's junior stats because everyone knows that Suh got absolutely zero coaching until he was a junior putting him on the same playing field as Fairley as a freshman.
kchusker_chris
All-American
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/1/11/1928305/fairleys-stats-lie-in-bcs-championship-game
While we're comparing juniors...(Crick is on pace to easily top Fairley next year)
Crick stats
9.5 sacks
70 tackles (36 solo)
17 TFL (92 yds)
10 QB hurries
1 forced fumble
0 interception
And while we are looking at numbers, since Suh had a VERY dominant 2 year run - what does Fairley's prior season look like? Maybe stats don't lie in this case. The better DT? SUH
Fairley 2009 stats
1.5 sacks
28 tackles (14 solo)
3.5 TFL (20 yds)
7 QB hurries
0 forced fumbles
0 interceptions
Fairley = 1 hit wonder.
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BornRedCornFed
Five-Star Recruit
considering that no one heard of this guy before the championship game makes this an invalid argument. (minus the dirty play, that is)
not even taking into consideration something called a heisman nomination....
not even taking into consideration something called a heisman nomination....
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jsneb83
All-American
Fairley is a good player, but Suh got his stats with offenses gameplanning against him by double and sometimes even triple teaming him. Watching the MNC, it looked like Oregon was manning up on him, and their were even times when he wasn't even blocked. I don't know how good he is against a double team, but I would rather have Suh on my team, I know Detroit isn't complaining.
