Frost/Warinner

[huskerscott]

I have seen some indications on other boards that the staff is done and they seem pretty happy about it. I saw pictures of Phillips, Frost, Warriner, Els, Raymond, and someone else on a post in an unrelated thread. Anyone care to share the latest? If that were true, I would consider that a homerun. I just find it improbable.

Agree I think this staff maybe close to being finalized, but is not a done deal. To me its just seems impossible to land Phillips, Warinner and Frost. Phillips system doesnt even fit what Nebraska wants to do offensively. Like I said in an earlier post going to Houstons system would us behind the 8 ball as far as getting players into the system. it would be 2004 all over again. I believe we can adapt our offense to what KU did Warinner was their and similar success.

Els and Raymond are on board, we atleast know that much. 4 hires, 1 announcement.

And the KU offense changed every so slightly between 2007 and 2008 to adapt to the talent that they had. That is a concept that we haven't had at NU in a very long time and it would be a sight for sore eyes if we get an offensive staff that can adjust and recruit. Just the thought of a competent offense staff with a Bo defense gets me excited to watch them kick some Big 10 a$$ next year!

So is Warriner and Frost still what you are hearing?

I haven't heard anything new since the Beck/Warriner co OC's and Frost will only come if Bo gives in and makes him at least a Co OC, which Bo doesn't want. Frost was offered the RB coach job, take it or leave it. With Warriner being the main OL coach with Barney mainly recruiting the OL and Beck coaching the QB's. I would assume under this scenario that Brown would be the WR coach?

If I hear anything else, I'll post it. As we know nothing is for sure until the contracts are signed.

Thanks, just seems like some more smoke is flying. I hope Frost is a part of the solution somehow, though I have reservations about giving him Play calling duties. Bo's first stint at calling plays was 2003 at NU after 9 years in the pros as a position coach and some intern experience at the college level. Beck has been a position coach in college for quite a few years, moving up the ladder consistently. Per Sipple's article today, Beck did call plays for 1 season at a Div 1AA school and did well. I am guessing, without studying his resume in detail, that he moved on for a better job after that, which is why he only did that for 1 year. He was also basically a CO-OC at KU as the Passing Game coordinator. He knows how to develop a game plan and at least has some experience calling plays, not to mention many years as a position coach in which he learned from many OC's. I would feel OK if he got play calling duties, it is the logical next step for him and I think he is ready. I would love to have Warriner as well, he is a well respected OL coach, and I think everyone agrees we could use some help in this area, and also has OC experience. He has worked with Beck before as well, I think a OC tandem of those 2 would be a good fit for NU. I would LOVE to have Frost come in as a position Coach. As I mentioned in a previous post, that would allow him to continue to develop as an Offensive Asst. and when the inevitable time comes when Beck and/or Warriner move on, Frost would be the logical replacement. Very similar to what Stoops did at OU. Obviously having Frost on the staff would allow the staff to implement more of Oregon's offense if they so choose.

I agree that Warinner and Beck would be an awesome tandem to have. Everytime I think of those 2 possibly being on our team, I have visions of KU destroying us in 2007. Sometimes its a good nightmare to have.

 

[Husker_x]

I have seen some indications on other boards that the staff is done and they seem pretty happy about it. I saw pictures of Phillips, Frost, Warriner, Els, Raymond, and someone else on a post in an unrelated thread. Anyone care to share the latest? If that were true, I would consider that a homerun. I just find it improbable.

Agree I think this staff maybe close to being finalized, but is not a done deal. To me its just seems impossible to land Phillips, Warinner and Frost. Phillips system doesnt even fit what Nebraska wants to do offensively. Like I said in an earlier post going to Houstons system would us behind the 8 ball as far as getting players into the system. it would be 2004 all over again. I believe we can adapt our offense to what KU did Warinner was their and similar success.

Els and Raymond are on board, we atleast know that much. 4 hires, 1 announcement.

And the KU offense changed every so slightly between 2007 and 2008 to adapt to the talent that they had. That is a concept that we haven't had at NU in a very long time and it would be a sight for sore eyes if we get an offensive staff that can adjust and recruit. Just the thought of a competent offense staff with a Bo defense gets me excited to watch them kick some Big 10 a$$ next year!

So is Warriner and Frost still what you are hearing?

I haven't heard anything new since the Beck/Warriner co OC's and Frost will only come if Bo gives in and makes him at least a Co OC, which Bo doesn't want. Frost was offered the RB coach job, take it or leave it. With Warriner being the main OL coach with Barney mainly recruiting the OL and Beck coaching the QB's. I would assume under this scenario that Brown would be the WR coach?

If I hear anything else, I'll post it. As we know nothing is for sure until the contracts are signed.

Thanks, just seems like some more smoke is flying. I hope Frost is a part of the solution somehow, though I have reservations about giving him Play calling duties. Bo's first stint at calling plays was 2003 at NU after 9 years in the pros as a position coach and some intern experience at the college level. Beck has been a position coach in college for quite a few years, moving up the ladder consistently. Per Sipple's article today, Beck did call plays for 1 season at a Div 1AA school and did well. I am guessing, without studying his resume in detail, that he moved on for a better job after that, which is why he only did that for 1 year. He was also basically a CO-OC at KU as the Passing Game coordinator. He knows how to develop a game plan and at least has some experience calling plays, not to mention many years as a position coach in which he learned from many OC's. I would feel OK if he got play calling duties, it is the logical next step for him and I think he is ready. I would love to have Warriner as well, he is a well respected OL coach, and I think everyone agrees we could use some help in this area, and also has OC experience. He has worked with Beck before as well, I think a OC tandem of those 2 would be a good fit for NU. I would LOVE to have Frost come in as a position Coach. As I mentioned in a previous post, that would allow him to continue to develop as an Offensive Asst. and when the inevitable time comes when Beck and/or Warriner move on, Frost would be the logical replacement. Very similar to what Stoops did at OU. Obviously having Frost on the staff would allow the staff to implement more of Oregon's offense if they so choose.

I agree that Warinner and Beck would be an awesome tandem to have. Everytime I think of those 2 possibly being on our team, I have visions of KU destroying us in 2007. Sometimes its a good nightmare to have.

Uh, consider the defense in question.

 

[huskerscott]

I have seen some indications on other boards that the staff is done and they seem pretty happy about it. I saw pictures of Phillips, Frost, Warriner, Els, Raymond, and someone else on a post in an unrelated thread. Anyone care to share the latest? If that were true, I would consider that a homerun. I just find it improbable.

Agree I think this staff maybe close to being finalized, but is not a done deal. To me its just seems impossible to land Phillips, Warinner and Frost. Phillips system doesnt even fit what Nebraska wants to do offensively. Like I said in an earlier post going to Houstons system would us behind the 8 ball as far as getting players into the system. it would be 2004 all over again. I believe we can adapt our offense to what KU did Warinner was their and similar success.

Els and Raymond are on board, we atleast know that much. 4 hires, 1 announcement.

And the KU offense changed every so slightly between 2007 and 2008 to adapt to the talent that they had. That is a concept that we haven't had at NU in a very long time and it would be a sight for sore eyes if we get an offensive staff that can adjust and recruit. Just the thought of a competent offense staff with a Bo defense gets me excited to watch them kick some Big 10 a$$ next year!

So is Warriner and Frost still what you are hearing?

I haven't heard anything new since the Beck/Warriner co OC's and Frost will only come if Bo gives in and makes him at least a Co OC, which Bo doesn't want. Frost was offered the RB coach job, take it or leave it. With Warriner being the main OL coach with Barney mainly recruiting the OL and Beck coaching the QB's. I would assume under this scenario that Brown would be the WR coach?

If I hear anything else, I'll post it. As we know nothing is for sure until the contracts are signed.

Thanks, just seems like some more smoke is flying. I hope Frost is a part of the solution somehow, though I have reservations about giving him Play calling duties. Bo's first stint at calling plays was 2003 at NU after 9 years in the pros as a position coach and some intern experience at the college level. Beck has been a position coach in college for quite a few years, moving up the ladder consistently. Per Sipple's article today, Beck did call plays for 1 season at a Div 1AA school and did well. I am guessing, without studying his resume in detail, that he moved on for a better job after that, which is why he only did that for 1 year. He was also basically a CO-OC at KU as the Passing Game coordinator. He knows how to develop a game plan and at least has some experience calling plays, not to mention many years as a position coach in which he learned from many OC's. I would feel OK if he got play calling duties, it is the logical next step for him and I think he is ready. I would love to have Warriner as well, he is a well respected OL coach, and I think everyone agrees we could use some help in this area, and also has OC experience. He has worked with Beck before as well, I think a OC tandem of those 2 would be a good fit for NU. I would LOVE to have Frost come in as a position Coach. As I mentioned in a previous post, that would allow him to continue to develop as an Offensive Asst. and when the inevitable time comes when Beck and/or Warriner move on, Frost would be the logical replacement. Very similar to what Stoops did at OU. Obviously having Frost on the staff would allow the staff to implement more of Oregon's offense if they so choose.

I agree that Warinner and Beck would be an awesome tandem to have. Everytime I think of those 2 possibly being on our team, I have visions of KU destroying us in 2007. Sometimes its a good nightmare to have.

Uh, consider the defense in question.

Yes the defense was terrible, but still to allow 76 points is pretty much waving the white flag. KU put up alot of points on people that year, not just Nebraska.

 

[da skers]

Philips was never a consideration and never contacted. His name was a horsesh#t suggestion put out there by only God knows who. Sounds like EW never got anything more than a call to see if there was interest. Its been mostly fueled by fan speculation at this point. There haven't been any "if and or butts" even talked about. I think it would be a stretch to say there has been anymore contact than the one call at this point. No word on Frost's ego yet. That's sounds like what I've stated so far is pretty accurate in that regard. Beck will be OC. Anything different than that will be a surprise. I will say that Bo goes about stuff the right way and no one get much info on whats happening until after the fact. Even people in the department have very little knowledge of whats going on. I think that's good in today's world. I'll talk a little more either after the fact or if stuff starts coming out again.

Most anything I hear comes from two people. Today's facts are from the one who doesn't usually say much but always knows what is going on. They are very connected to TO and the coaches. My other guy is usually 90-95% spot on as he played for UNL and contributes to the department so he also likes to ask around to other boosters and players to see if they know whats up. In that sense he's like us searching message board and putting it together from multiple people hearing things. He's just one level higher on the food chain.

And most of the stuff posted about Bo coming back and the hire process is bullsh#t. So says the guy with one of the planes they used to fly around and the guy who split a chunk of the searching costs. End of discussion in my mind when it comes to that.

 

[da skers]

Someone asked about Beck as OC. Beck obviously came from a good football background but really kind of made his mark in the Texas High School ranks. Remember these programs are like small colleges. And he was the TO of high school coaches in his few years there. All the coaches called him, copied his offenses etc. That's part of the reason hes so connected there. His offenses operated on simple ideas but could put up big numbers either way. Think of simplicity like Mike Leach's offense. It was always said Leach had 10 plays in his play book that was it, but you never knew what was coming.

Beck was recruited to KU for those reasons and it was thought he'd go from there to OC at KU as soon as the OC there. He's was 4-5 years ago where Frost is now.

 

[caveman99]

Someone asked about Beck as OC. Beck obviously came from a good football background but really kind of made his mark in the Texas High School ranks. Remember these programs are like small colleges. And he was the TO of high school coaches in his few years there. All the coaches called him, copied his offenses etc. That's part of the reason hes so connected there. His offenses operated on simple ideas but could put up big numbers either way. Think of simplicity like Mike Leach's offense. It was always said Leach had 10 plays in his play book that was it, but you never knew what was coming.

Beck was recruited to KU for those reasons and it was thought he'd go from there to OC at KU as soon as the OC there. He's was 4-5 years ago where Frost is now.

Not to mention that Beck also has some OC experience at the College level, albeit a lower level. Overall I think this step is the next logical progression for Beck, I think he will be good.

We have one poster stating that it will be Warriner and Beck, this is my hope, and another stating just Beck. Both saying Frost is a maybe. The press is saying Beck in one fashion or another, but with playcalling duties. So Beck is solid as the playcaller, question is if anyone will be splitting the OC role with him and how the other positions get filled as a result. I would LOVE Warriner to come and coach OL and be CO-OC, this is now my favorite option per my reasons previously posted, but I would be ok if they gave Frost a CO-OC title and a position duty. Frost could help in game planning and still coach a position and mature as an offensive coach. I would be ok with that I suppose. It brings another ace recruiter and pretty good coach to the staff. He would also be a logical successor to Beck when Beck decides to take a promotion.

As for the comment that when Bo leaves Beck goes with him, I don't agree with that. Beck will be the OC here, if he does well then it is logical, assuming he has ambition and I think we can all agree based upon his resume he does, that he will look to be a HC somewhere. Most likely first at a mid-level or lower level program. Bo won't be leaving before Beck's name gets tossed around, the assumption being he does a fine job with this new opportunity. Beck will most likely leave before Bo, only options I see Bo leaving for is maybe the NFL and/or OSU, so it would be nice to have a quality coach groomed to be the successor. That timeline would also make it possible that, again assuming Frost's career remains on an upward path, for Frost to possibly succeed Bo. 2-4 years as a CO-OC, another 2-4 as the sole OC, take a lower tier HC job for 2-4, take a mid-tier to upper tier job 2-5 years, and then his dream job of HC at DONU opens up as Bo might be ready to retire by then; all of this is assuming that both Bo and Frost remain successful. Just a thought.

 

[huskerj12]

For what it's worth, HTO usually knows his stuff on Huskers Illustrated and two days ago he said Frost coming was a 10% chance, and today he says it's now 50%. Hopefully that number keeps going up!

 

[Husker_x]

Here's a question. How does anyone know anything about this if talks are pretty much happening as we speak?

 

[sewardite4NU]

Someone asked about Beck as OC. Beck obviously came from a good football background but really kind of made his mark in the Texas High School ranks. Remember these programs are like small colleges. And he was the TO of high school coaches in his few years there. All the coaches called him, copied his offenses etc. That's part of the reason hes so connected there. His offenses operated on simple ideas but could put up big numbers either way. Think of simplicity like Mike Leach's offense. It was always said Leach had 10 plays in his play book that was it, but you never knew what was coming.

Beck was recruited to KU for those reasons and it was thought he'd go from there to OC at KU as soon as the OC there. He's was 4-5 years ago where Frost is now.

Not to mention that Beck also has some OC experience at the College level, albeit a lower level. Overall I think this step is the next logical progression for Beck, I think he will be good.

We have one poster stating that it will be Warriner and Beck, this is my hope, and another stating just Beck. Both saying Frost is a maybe. The press is saying Beck in one fashion or another, but with playcalling duties. So Beck is solid as the playcaller, question is if anyone will be splitting the OC role with him and how the other positions get filled as a result. I would LOVE Warriner to come and coach OL and be CO-OC, this is now my favorite option per my reasons previously posted, but I would be ok if they gave Frost a CO-OC title and a position duty. Frost could help in game planning and still coach a position and mature as an offensive coach. I would be ok with that I suppose. It brings another ace recruiter and pretty good coach to the staff. He would also be a logical successor to Beck when Beck decides to take a promotion.

As for the comment that when Bo leaves Beck goes with him, I don't agree with that. Beck will be the OC here, if he does well then it is logical, assuming he has ambition and I think we can all agree based upon his resume he does, that he will look to be a HC somewhere. Most likely first at a mid-level or lower level program. Bo won't be leaving before Beck's name gets tossed around, the assumption being he does a fine job with this new opportunity. Beck will most likely leave before Bo, only options I see Bo leaving for is maybe the NFL and/or OSU, so it would be nice to have a quality coach groomed to be the successor. That timeline would also make it possible that, again assuming Frost's career remains on an upward path, for Frost to possibly succeed Bo. 2-4 years as a CO-OC, another 2-4 as the sole OC, take a lower tier HC job for 2-4, take a mid-tier to upper tier job 2-5 years, and then his dream job of HC at DONU opens up as Bo might be ready to retire by then; all of this is assuming that both Bo and Frost remain successful. Just a thought.

I also like the thought of Frost eventually becoming our head coach. I can't definitively answer whether or not he's ready for an OC job at this point in his career, but I'd really like for him to be on the staff sooner than later. I honestly don't see Pelini retiring as our head coach, although I wouldn't mind seeing it. And even if Bo did retire as our head coach, you have to remember he's only 7 years older than Frost. By the time Pelini would retire, Frost wouldn't be too far behind. I'd just like to have Frost as a part of the program for if/when Bo decides to leave. That way we could at least have some continuity with the staff. Of course, this is assuming that Frost "lives up to the hype," which is something I believe he is more than capable of. I like my Oregon-offense-flavored Kool-Aid. :koolaid2:

 

[REDSTEEL]

I have seen some indications on other boards that the staff is done and they seem pretty happy about it. I saw pictures of Phillips, Frost, Warriner, Els, Raymond, and someone else on a post in an unrelated thread. Anyone care to share the latest? If that were true, I would consider that a homerun. I just find it improbable.

Agree I think this staff maybe close to being finalized, but is not a done deal. To me its just seems impossible to land Phillips, Warinner and Frost. Phillips system doesnt even fit what Nebraska wants to do offensively. Like I said in an earlier post going to Houstons system would us behind the 8 ball as far as getting players into the system. it would be 2004 all over again. I believe we can adapt our offense to what KU did Warinner was their and similar success.

Els and Raymond are on board, we atleast know that much. 4 hires, 1 announcement.

And the KU offense changed every so slightly between 2007 and 2008 to adapt to the talent that they had. That is a concept that we haven't had at NU in a very long time and it would be a sight for sore eyes if we get an offensive staff that can adjust and recruit. Just the thought of a competent offense staff with a Bo defense gets me excited to watch them kick some Big 10 a$$ next year!

So is Warriner and Frost still what you are hearing?

I haven't heard anything new since the Beck/Warriner co OC's and Frost will only come if Bo gives in and makes him at least a Co OC, which Bo doesn't want. Frost was offered the RB coach job, take it or leave it. With Warriner being the main OL coach with Barney mainly recruiting the OL and Beck coaching the QB's. I would assume under this scenario that Brown would be the WR coach?

If I hear anything else, I'll post it. As we know nothing is for sure until the contracts are signed.

Thanks, just seems like some more smoke is flying. I hope Frost is a part of the solution somehow, though I have reservations about giving him Play calling duties. Bo's first stint at calling plays was 2003 at NU after 9 years in the pros as a position coach and some intern experience at the college level. Beck has been a position coach in college for quite a few years, moving up the ladder consistently. Per Sipple's article today, Beck did call plays for 1 season at a Div 1AA school and did well. I am guessing, without studying his resume in detail, that he moved on for a better job after that, which is why he only did that for 1 year. He was also basically a CO-OC at KU as the Passing Game coordinator. He knows how to develop a game plan and at least has some experience calling plays, not to mention many years as a position coach in which he learned from many OC's. I would feel OK if he got play calling duties, it is the logical next step for him and I think he is ready. I would love to have Warriner as well, he is a well respected OL coach, and I think everyone agrees we could use some help in this area, and also has OC experience. He has worked with Beck before as well, I think a OC tandem of those 2 would be a good fit for NU. I would LOVE to have Frost come in as a position Coach. As I mentioned in a previous post, that would allow him to continue to develop as an Offensive Asst. and when the inevitable time comes when Beck and/or Warriner move on, Frost would be the logical replacement. Very similar to what Stoops did at OU. Obviously having Frost on the staff would allow the staff to implement more of Oregon's offense if they so choose.

I agree that Warinner and Beck would be an awesome tandem to have. Everytime I think of those 2 possibly being on our team, I have visions of KU destroying us in 2007. Sometimes its a good nightmare to have.

Uh, consider the defense in question.

Yes the defense was terrible, but still to allow 76 points is pretty much waving the white flag. KU put up alot of points on people that year, not just Nebraska.

Lets look at those team they played in 2007

Central Michigan 52 - 7

SE Lousiana 62 - 0

Toledo 45 - 13

Florida Int'l 55 - 3

Kansas State 30 - 24 a bad k state team that lost to Nebraska

Baylor 58 -10

Colorado 19 - 14

Texas A&M 19 - 11

Nebraska 76 - 34

OK State 43 - 28

Iowa State 45 - 7

Missouri 28 - 36 loss only team they played with a winning record.

 

[huskerj12]

Here's a question. How does anyone know anything about this if talks are pretty much happening as we speak?

Great question, and I honestly have no idea how (or if) anyone knows anything haha.

 

[knapplc]

Lets look at those team they played in 2007

Central Michigan 52 - 7

SE Lousiana 62 - 0

Toledo 45 - 13

Florida Int'l 55 - 3

Kansas State 30 - 24 a bad k state team that lost to Nebraska

Baylor 58 -10

Colorado 19 - 14

Texas A&M 19 - 11

Nebraska 76 - 34

OK State 43 - 28

Iowa State 45 - 7

Missouri 28 - 36 loss only team they played with a winning record.

That's weird - they won all those games and didn't play in a bowl game?

 

[huskerscott]

I have seen some indications on other boards that the staff is done and they seem pretty happy about it. I saw pictures of Phillips, Frost, Warriner, Els, Raymond, and someone else on a post in an unrelated thread. Anyone care to share the latest? If that were true, I would consider that a homerun. I just find it improbable.

Agree I think this staff maybe close to being finalized, but is not a done deal. To me its just seems impossible to land Phillips, Warinner and Frost. Phillips system doesnt even fit what Nebraska wants to do offensively. Like I said in an earlier post going to Houstons system would us behind the 8 ball as far as getting players into the system. it would be 2004 all over again. I believe we can adapt our offense to what KU did Warinner was their and similar success.

Els and Raymond are on board, we atleast know that much. 4 hires, 1 announcement.

And the KU offense changed every so slightly between 2007 and 2008 to adapt to the talent that they had. That is a concept that we haven't had at NU in a very long time and it would be a sight for sore eyes if we get an offensive staff that can adjust and recruit. Just the thought of a competent offense staff with a Bo defense gets me excited to watch them kick some Big 10 a$$ next year!

So is Warriner and Frost still what you are hearing?

I haven't heard anything new since the Beck/Warriner co OC's and Frost will only come if Bo gives in and makes him at least a Co OC, which Bo doesn't want. Frost was offered the RB coach job, take it or leave it. With Warriner being the main OL coach with Barney mainly recruiting the OL and Beck coaching the QB's. I would assume under this scenario that Brown would be the WR coach?

If I hear anything else, I'll post it. As we know nothing is for sure until the contracts are signed.

Thanks, just seems like some more smoke is flying. I hope Frost is a part of the solution somehow, though I have reservations about giving him Play calling duties. Bo's first stint at calling plays was 2003 at NU after 9 years in the pros as a position coach and some intern experience at the college level. Beck has been a position coach in college for quite a few years, moving up the ladder consistently. Per Sipple's article today, Beck did call plays for 1 season at a Div 1AA school and did well. I am guessing, without studying his resume in detail, that he moved on for a better job after that, which is why he only did that for 1 year. He was also basically a CO-OC at KU as the Passing Game coordinator. He knows how to develop a game plan and at least has some experience calling plays, not to mention many years as a position coach in which he learned from many OC's. I would feel OK if he got play calling duties, it is the logical next step for him and I think he is ready. I would love to have Warriner as well, he is a well respected OL coach, and I think everyone agrees we could use some help in this area, and also has OC experience. He has worked with Beck before as well, I think a OC tandem of those 2 would be a good fit for NU. I would LOVE to have Frost come in as a position Coach. As I mentioned in a previous post, that would allow him to continue to develop as an Offensive Asst. and when the inevitable time comes when Beck and/or Warriner move on, Frost would be the logical replacement. Very similar to what Stoops did at OU. Obviously having Frost on the staff would allow the staff to implement more of Oregon's offense if they so choose.

I agree that Warinner and Beck would be an awesome tandem to have. Everytime I think of those 2 possibly being on our team, I have visions of KU destroying us in 2007. Sometimes its a good nightmare to have.

Uh, consider the defense in question.

Yes the defense was terrible, but still to allow 76 points is pretty much waving the white flag. KU put up alot of points on people that year, not just Nebraska.

Lets look at those team they played in 2007

Central Michigan 52 - 7

SE Lousiana 62 - 0

Toledo 45 - 13

Florida Int'l 55 - 3

Kansas State 30 - 24 a bad k state team that lost to Nebraska

Baylor 58 -10

Colorado 19 - 14

Texas A&M 19 - 11

Nebraska 76 - 34

OK State 43 - 28

Iowa State 45 - 7

Missouri 28 - 36 loss only team they played with a winning record.

Perhaps you forgot that Central Michigan,Colorado, TexasA&M, Okie State all went to bowls that year. Also you forgot that they beat VTech in the Orange Bowl.

 

[knapplc]

Perhaps you forgot that Central Michigan,Colorado, TexasA&M, Okie State all went to bowls that year. Also you forgot that they beat VTech in the Orange Bowl.

VA Tech was the #3 scoring defense that year as well. KU scored 8 points more than VT averaged in 2007. Only LSU scored more points against the Hokies than KU.

The caveat to this is, as we saw in the Holiday Bowl, it's not always the best team that wins. But KU wasn't chopped liver in 2007 - that's probably the most fair thing to say.

 

[huskerscott]

Kansas 2007 record against bowl eligible teams: 5-1 only loss to mizzou which was one of Mizzou's best teams in decades.

Nebraska 2010 record against bowl eligible teams:4-3 In the 3 losses the huskers scored an average of 11 points. that doesnt get it done.

Nebraska 2010 and KU 2007 had pretty easy schedules. KU played one less game cause they didnt win the division.