Gregory tests positive for pot at combine

[Bowfin]

Lol the price will drop a little but to say $150/ton is ridiculous.

The prices paid for hemp in Ontario, Canada is $160 per ton. I have no reason to believe that growing pot would cost more than growing hemp...do you?

But the same people who say pot would be a boon and a godsend to tax coffers are the same who say the same about gambling...and look at the financial health of the State of Nevada, the City of Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and Caesar's casino now in bankruptcy. But it is foolish to argue, since it will all play itself out.

Actually, the more people sitting in their basement going nowhere and getting stoned makes the rest of the world less crowded for me, and less competition in the job market for my sons, so have at it.

 

[hskrpwr13]

Lol the price will drop a little but to say $150/ton is ridiculous.

The prices paid for hemp in Ontario, Canada is $160 per ton. I have no reason to believe that growing pot would cost more than growing hemp...do you?

But the same people who say pot would be a boon and a godsend to tax coffers are the same who say the same about gambling...and look at the financial health of the State of Nevada, the City of Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and Caesar's casino now in bankruptcy. But it is foolish to argue, since it will all play itself out.

Actually, the more people sitting in their basement going nowhere and getting stoned makes the rest of the world less crowded for me, and less competition in the job market for my sons, so have at it.

I agree wholeheartedly with your last statement. I can be sympathetic to those in great pain wanting the quickest relief, but those that are doing it for leisure, yeah, stay out of the way of us ambitious people. I'd rather have more job opportunities than less.

 

[The Dude]

There's plenty of recreational pot smokers who have been extremely ambitious and successful. There's also plenty of non-smoker's who have been unambitious and unsuccessful.

 

[strigori]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.

Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

 

[Hunter94]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.

Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

 

[Spooky Tooth]

There's plenty of recreational pot smokers who have been extremely ambitious and successful. There's also plenty of non-smoker's who have been unambitious and unsuccessful.

That's like saying there are plenty of alcoholics who can function and succeed, and many non-alcoholics who aren't motivated and don't strive. Are both statements true? Sure. Are they representative of reality? Not really.

The reality of long-term pot use is a quantified decrease in motivation http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/marijuana-motivation-longtime-use-pot_n_3534031.html vice non-users. I don't want to get too deep into this because it will just devolve into an argument I have no interest in.

 

[The Dude]

Nothing compelling enough in that one study to use it to define reality.

Give me the results of numerous studies over time, and we'll start to get a better understanding of reality.

 

[Spooky Tooth]

Nothing compelling enough in that one study to use it to define reality.

Give me the results of numerous studies over time, and we'll start to get a better understanding of reality.

Like I said, not interested in going farther with it except to say that most folks I have encountered who used mj regularly refused to recognize the deleterious effects it had on them. Case studies in projection, rationalization and minimization.

 

[bale]

Lol the price will drop a little but to say $150/ton is ridiculous.

The prices paid for hemp in Ontario, Canada is $160 per ton. I have no reason to believe that growing pot would cost more than growing hemp...do you?

Probably because people don't smoke hemp. Tobacco isn't expensive to make but it sure as hell is expensive to buy. Why? Taxes. The government can control prices of weed (like they do now in Colorado). Right now weed is FAR cheaper in Denver before taxes. The government just puts taxes at ridiculous levels (around 30-50% already) to keep the prices and revenues high because people are willing to pay it. You are incredibly ignorant if you think weed will suddenly drop to $150/ton LMAO it will always stay around current prices because of taxes.

 

[True2tRA]

There's plenty of recreational pot smokers who have been extremely ambitious and successful. There's also plenty of non-smoker's who have been unambitious and unsuccessful.

No, no, no.....it's much easier to blame a substance for our shortcomings and credit ourselves for our triumphs than blame ourselves for our shortcomings.

 

[strigori]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.

Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

 

[macroboy]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.

Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

Hemp is not the same as smoke-able weed, nor is the market for it.

Meth and heroine also not the same as weed. See my comment above about 1950's refer madness propaganda and logic.

I know lots of very ambitious, motivated and successful people that smoke. Do you really think legalization and the legislative work it takes is being spearheaded by some stoned teenagers in their parents basement?

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.
Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

Hemp is not the same as smoke-able weed, nor is the market for it.

Meth and heroine also not the same as weed. See my comment above about 1950's refer madness propaganda and logic.

I know lots of very ambitious, motivated and successful people that smoke. Do you really think legalization and the legislative work it takes is being spearheaded by some stoned teenagers in their parents basement?

Yes.....I can't even type that with a straight face....so much backwards thinking in this thread

 

[Hunter94]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.
Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

Hemp is not the same as smoke-able weed, nor is the market for it.

Meth and heroine also not the same as weed. See my comment above about 1950's refer madness propaganda and logic.

I know lots of very ambitious, motivated and successful people that smoke. Do you really think legalization and the legislative work it takes is being spearheaded by some stoned teenagers in their parents basement?

Yes.....I can't even type that with a straight face....so much backwards thinking in this thread

ok, so some drugs are ok, some are not......it's always fun to blur the line!

 

[VA Husker2]

I don't hold marijuana in the negative light that many people do, I got no issues with it. That said, it is illegal and it is a banned substance in the NFL. Couldn't the kid lay off for a little bit until after payday? Obviously the answer is no.

Marijuana is not an addictive drug, it's a drug of choice. Gregory obviously isn't mature enough to make smart choices yet. It will be interesting to see how much this costs him.

It's legal in some places and the legalization movement is picking up steam. We now have 4 States with legal recreational and almost half with medicinal weed legal. It will be legal nationwide soon enough and then people won't be able to be denied jobs because of weed.

You are not wrong in your legalization citing, although, I have often wondered but never seen the effects of legal marijuana use on employment in the states where it is legal. Even though the state declared it legal, employers still can ban it's use. The NFL is one of those employers. Is a temporary feeling worth your livelihood?