Gregory tests positive for pot at combine

[Elf]

I get an annual hair drug test... Definitely no drugs for this guy.

what do they do for us bald people?

Armpit hair.

 

[Elf]

Having weed issues in his past is news to me.

Sarcasm?

I always thought from the get go RG looked kinda stoned. Whatev. Better than getting addicted to painkillers.

For those wondering why top athletes would want to smoke up, there's one answer right there.

Exactly.

I legitimately have a medical license to smoke weed in Colorado for chronic pain. Ibuprofen, aspirin, opiates...none of them kill the pain like weed does. Heck the first two don't do anything for the pain and opiates don't really kill the pain, they just make me not care about it. Weed works wonders for me in that regard and I don't have to get completely wasted to get relief either. It's not likely that any of you would even know I'd been smoking.

 

[I am I]

Drugs are bad so is alcohol for your overall health. Depends on the person and their history. I live in colorado and voted for the legalization. Haven't seen a huge surge in usage or whatever.

It affects people in different ways. Some can do a bit here and there and some can do none at all, lest they become addicts and can't function.

The fact that Gregory is willing to admit that he has an issue w it at all is a good first step. Sounds like he has a bit of a dependancy on it for one reason or another.

Pot isn't all evil and neither is alcohol so chill out. Young people shouldn't do either, that's for sure. Most adults shouldn't either, but by then it's up to you and what your life will be like day to day.

Let's hope Gregory finds out if he can do it and get along well, or needs to stop it all completely to achieve his goals.

 

[Elf]

Lol the price will drop a little but to say $150/ton is ridiculous.

The prices paid for hemp in Ontario, Canada is $160 per ton. I have no reason to believe that growing pot would cost more than growing hemp...do you?

But the same people who say pot would be a boon and a godsend to tax coffers are the same who say the same about gambling...and look at the financial health of the State of Nevada, the City of Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and Caesar's casino now in bankruptcy. But it is foolish to argue, since it will all play itself out.

Actually, the more people sitting in their basement going nowhere and getting stoned makes the rest of the world less crowded for me, and less competition in the job market for my sons, so have at it.

Heh...you don't know much about growing pot do you? Hemp doesn't require any special treatment to grow that I am aware of. Marijuana on the other hand, you need to take care of the plants if you expect them to produce high quality THC. I read somewhere that it costs anywhere from $5 to $20 an ounce to grow marijuana. Hemp selling at $160 a ton is likely far cheaper to grow than marijuana. Go to http://www.hightimes.com/ to see examples of marijuana grow operations and articles on how to grow it.

Colorado raked in millions in tax revenue from pot. Those other places you mentioned? They don't have a cash flow problem, they have a spending problem.

 

[Elf]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.

Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Wow...marijuana isn't anything close to meth or heroine. You shouldn't keep believing those old reefer madness commercials demonizing marijuana.

 

[Elf]

Nothing compelling enough in that one study to use it to define reality.

Give me the results of numerous studies over time, and we'll start to get a better understanding of reality.

Like I said, not interested in going farther with it except to say that most folks I have encountered who used mj regularly refused to recognize the deleterious effects it had on them. Case studies in projection, rationalization and minimization.

Most marijuana studies done in America have focused on finding detrimental effects, very little has been done in this country to find positive effects. That will change soon, until then we can look to other countries research.

 

[Elf]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.
Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

Hemp is not the same as smoke-able weed, nor is the market for it.

Meth and heroine also not the same as weed. See my comment above about 1950's refer madness propaganda and logic.

I know lots of very ambitious, motivated and successful people that smoke. Do you really think legalization and the legislative work it takes is being spearheaded by some stoned teenagers in their parents basement?

Yes.....I can't even type that with a straight face....so much backwards thinking in this thread

ok, so some drugs are ok, some are not......it's always fun to blur the line!

Is alcohol ok?

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

The tax revenue is what will eventually make the change.

The more prevalent that legalized pot becomes, the more the price will drop. There will be no revenue on marijuana when it is grown by the quarter section and planted by John Deeres and not aging pony-tailed hippies on patios. The price will be slightly less than that of good alfalfa hay...so figure the government's share of $150 a ton...

Dude, do you math much?

I don't think you understand how taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol work. Legalizing micro breweries didn't make beer unprofitable, and gov's pull plenty of taxes on alcohol. Regardless if there is some price drop on the low end weed(high end stuff will remain much more expensive), govs still will be pulling millions in taxes.
Add the benefit of not expending money in policing, prosecuting, and jailing people for weed. To say nothing of the crime decrease that has accompanied legalization.

what else should we legalize to save money, meth, heroine?

Not even remotely the same. Don't sit here and pretend they are related.

Hemp is not the same as smoke-able weed, nor is the market for it.

Meth and heroine also not the same as weed. See my comment above about 1950's refer madness propaganda and logic.

I know lots of very ambitious, motivated and successful people that smoke. Do you really think legalization and the legislative work it takes is being spearheaded by some stoned teenagers in their parents basement?

Yes.....I can't even type that with a straight face....so much backwards thinking in this thread

ok, so some drugs are ok, some are not......it's always fun to blur the line!

Is alcohol ok?

Of course, it is our government's job to decide what we can or cannot consume in our bodies

 

[Spooky Tooth]

Nothing compelling enough in that one study to use it to define reality.

Give me the results of numerous studies over time, and we'll start to get a better understanding of reality.

Like I said, not interested in going farther with it except to say that most folks I have encountered who used mj regularly refused to recognize the deleterious effects it had on them. Case studies in projection, rationalization and minimization.

Most marijuana studies done in America have focused on finding detrimental effects, very little has been done in this country to find positive effects. That will change soon, until then we can look to other countries research.

Prior to the last 15 years or so that may have been true, but not now. My experience with supporters of mj has been one of intellectual dishonesty. Provide citations contrary to their position and it's always flawed.

 

[Elf]

Nothing compelling enough in that one study to use it to define reality.

Give me the results of numerous studies over time, and we'll start to get a better understanding of reality.

Like I said, not interested in going farther with it except to say that most folks I have encountered who used mj regularly refused to recognize the deleterious effects it had on them. Case studies in projection, rationalization and minimization.

Most marijuana studies done in America have focused on finding detrimental effects, very little has been done in this country to find positive effects. That will change soon, until then we can look to other countries research.

Prior to the last 15 years or so that may have been true, but not now. My experience with supporters of mj has been one of intellectual dishonesty. Provide citations contrary to their position and it's always flawed.

I know we are getting some studies here in the States now on the benefits of marijuana, that hasn't always been the case.

*Edit* Here's what I'm talking about.

http://www.thecannabist.co/2015/02/02/marijuana-research-colorado-health-effects-asthma-cancer-stoned-driving/28946/

Researchers noted that because marijuana use was illegal nationwide until 1996 — when California voters approved the first medical uses for pot — research is extremely limited. Marijuana research has historically looked for adverse effects, not possible health benefits.“This legal fact introduces both funding bias and publication bias into the body of literature related to marijuana use,” authors noted.

 

[hskrpwr13]

Drugs are bad so is alcohol for your overall health. Depends on the person and their history. I live in colorado and voted for the legalization. Haven't seen a huge surge in usage or whatever.

It affects people in different ways. Some can do a bit here and there and some can do none at all, lest they become addicts and can't function.

The fact that Gregory is willing to admit that he has an issue w it at all is a good first step. Sounds like he has a bit of a dependancy on it for one reason or another.

Pot isn't all evil and neither is alcohol so chill out. Young people shouldn't do either, that's for sure. Most adults shouldn't either, but by then it's up to you and what your life will be like day to day.

Let's hope Gregory finds out if he can do it and get along well, or needs to stop it all completely to achieve his goals.

I'd agree with most of this. Far be it from to criticize someone who has a legitimate medical need for it. The reason we have such laws though is because too many adults can't quit doing the things they did as children that may negatively affect 3rd parties or future generational attitudes. Outside of the medical benefits, what are the positives for those that dont require those benefits? Sounds to me its just a mentality of doing something that "man" doesn't approve of or thinking its "cool". Get rid of the silly, stoner subculture and perhaps put the drug in pill form and I'll be less abrasive about the idea of a stoned American culture. My attitude is the same towards, cigs and alcohol. Again, outside of these few medical benefits I struggle to see the positives with these vices. I really think its the "dont infringe on my rights" attitude that keeps these things as a major part of our society. Assuming I'm correct, really wish people would be more open/honest about the negative benefits even if they still want the "right" to partake.

 

[admo]

 

[Elf]

I think we can all agree that too much of any drug, regardless of effect on the body, is a bad thing. Too much alcohol is bad. Too much asprin is bad. Too much ibuprofen is bad. Too much Oxy is bad.

Too much weed is probably bad for you too. Hopefully, everyone can agree with that simple notion.

To much of anything, including water, is bad for you.

 

[Haspula]

His hairline plummeted

 

[zoogs]

Stephen A. doesn't know "his coach at Nebraska" ain't at Nebraska no mo'.

It's kinda funny how good Skip and Stephen A. are at always appearing to yell at each other, even when they're agreeing. Wonder how Stephen A.'s rant about how "all these are brothers" went over.