Healthcare Reform

This sounds more like damage-control and PR than a real fact-checked analysis as the fact-checker only got comments from the right-wing think tank that authored that report and not from the groups that showed the savings and were critical of parts of the report itself. (I guess the article has comments from some mayoral candidate, but why not from someone more knowledgeable?)

And when healthcare industry lobbyists oppose Medicare-for-all, it's a strong bet that means it's bad for them and good for the public (from whom they make their profits):

HEALTH CARE LOBBYISTS SECRETLY SECURE DEMOCRATS’ OPPOSITION TO “MEDICARE FOR ALL,” INTERNAL DOCUMENTS SHOW

 
I'm confused on this.

The study found that if hospitals and doctors were willing to accept Medicare-based payments of 40 percent less for patients who currently have private insurance, then projected U.S. health care spending would decline by about 3 percent from 2022 to 2031, or $2.05 trillion.

That’s the number Sanders is celebrating.

But the study also said if medical providers continue to be paid about the same as now, U.S. health care spending would increase by $3.25 trillion over 10 years under “Medicare for all.” It works out to about 5 percent more.

That’s far different from Sanders’ assurance that his plan “will lead” to huge spending reductions.

The study concludes it’s unlikely.

“More generous health care insurance would be provided to everyone at the expense of health care providers,” it said. “Whether providers could sustain such losses and remain in operation, and how those who continue operations would adapt to such dramatic payment reductions, are critically important questions.”
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Reducing what we pay providers, hospitals and drug companies is a MAJOR reason why there is a push for this.

Right now we pay WAY more than other countries for the same service or drug.  That is unacceptable.

 
It's amazing how they are trying to FUD their own report. 

How can you out FUD the system they've built where people are afraid to see the doctor because nobody knows what the hell it'll end up costing them even with insurance, which we already pay out the nose for and the price keeps going up while coverage keeps going down.

 
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BigRedBuster said:
That is a very confusing chart to understand. 
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It's complex but it's also showing a lot of data all together. The basic graph is showing the healthcare spending vs life expectancy for various countries. The difficult part is that it's also showing how that relationship changed over time from 1970 to 2015 for each country. So the dot on each country's path is 1970, and then you can follow the path to see how the relationship evolved through to 2015. Does that make sense?

 




I know someone who has MS, is obese, and smokes. And she’s a gungho Trump supporter. She would not be able to afford any of her medicine if not for the ACA because no insurance company would touch her with a 10 foot pole. I really can’t understand how anyone in their right mind would put their own life and death beneath things like gun rights (that’s a big one for her) and immigration.

 
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