Horse-collar call

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Not sure the horse-collar call was correct also. The rule states that the runner has to be pulled to the ground, Astance let go before that and the tackle was made by someone else. Very questionable.

 
I remember at least 3 other horse-collar tackle calls this season where only/primarily the jersey was grabbed. At least they're consistent.

 
I also remember numerous times nebraska players getting horse collar'ed. This rule is an inconsistant joke always has been and a perfect example of how a man's sport is turning into a pu&&y sport so the pretty boys that can't make it in golf or tennis or some sh#t wont get hurt.

 
WisnerPilger Husker said:
Not sure the horse-collar call was correct also. The rule states that the runner has to be pulled to the ground, Astance let go before that and the tackle was made by someone else. Very questionable.
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We're really nit-picking now. The game is over. What's done is done. It sucks, but that's the way it is and hopefully they win big in the bowl game so the seniors can go out the way they deserve to exit.

 
Of all the arguments Husker fans have about the game, whether or not Shipley got horsecollared is one of the weaker ones.

 
The horsecollar rule was an unnecessary reaction to Roy Williams hurting Terrell Owens. That doesn't happen, there is no rule. Most times it's a pretty harmless tackle. The rule is the rule, but I disagree with it.

 
The Pass Interference Call that led directly to the Field Goal was the worst and most costly call of the night. IIRC they didn't do anything with the ball afterwards and it's because of the call that they got into field goal range.

Also did they get 15 yards on that penalty, was the play even 15 yards down field? Cause if it was under 15 yards and they gave them the 15 yards it's the wrong call. In college it's a spot foul under 15 yards and if the call is past 15 yards it's a 15 yard penalty.

Some of the other calls were bad, but this was the only especially bad call (I'm not including the clock at the end of the game) that led directly to points for Texas.

Also if Suh would've let up on the last play and didn't pressure McCoy as he did, the game would've been over. Damn you Suh. :sarcasm

 
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The horsecollar rule was an unnecessary reaction to Roy Williams hurting Terrell Owens. That doesn't happen, there is no rule. Most times it's a pretty harmless tackle. The rule is the rule, but I disagree with it.
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EXACTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT, DISCUSSING THE RULE AS A WHOLE AND HOW INCOSISTENT IT IS, It has not been argued once about whether or not it was a horsecollar, and if the penalty shoulda been called, it's about this being a pu&&y rule plain and simple, and it that's true about this rule bein an overreaction to one injury, if not 2 or 3 others, then these pussies are playin the wrong damn sport. get a racket and go play tennis.

 
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HuskerJosh said:
The horsecollar rule was an unnecessary reaction to Roy Williams hurting Terrell Owens. That doesn't happen, there is no rule. Most times it's a pretty harmless tackle. The rule is the rule, but I disagree with it.
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EXACTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT, DISCUSSING THE RULE AS A WHOLE AND HOW INCOSISTENT IT IS, It has not been argued once about whether or not it was a horsecollar, and if the penalty shoulda been called, it's about this being a pu&&y rule plain and simple, and it that's true about this rule bein an overreaction to one injury, if not 2 or 3 others, then these pussies are playin the wrong damn sport. get a racket and go play tennis.
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Here's an example of Suh getting called for a horse collar that shouldn't have been.

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In the waning moments of the 3rd quarter Ndamukong Suh was flagged for a horse collar tackle on Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert. Instead of facing 3rd and 5, the 15-yard penalty extended Missouri's drive into Nebraska territory.

The NCAA Football 2009 Rules and Interpretations says in Section 1, Article 2, Rule 2-34:

All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down.

Suh clearly had a hold of Gabbert's jersey, but never grabbed the inside collar of the jersey or shoulder pads.

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If we don't kick the ball out of bounds on the kick off, I don't think any of this crap would have happened or mattered.

 
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Meh, as much as I like Asante, he is a wild card on the field. Are some of the calls against him questionable? Maybe.

But he seems to consistently place himself in situations that allow referees to call game breaking penalties.

 
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The big problem with the rule is that it's not called well by the officals. The rule is very clear that just grabbing someone by the collar is not a penalty. The ball carrier needs to be immediately pulled down by the collar. This is to prevent a player's head/upper back falling 5-6 feet to the ground and being the first point of contact with the ground. It's a good intention, but the officials need to be better educated on when the call should be made. In the Big 12 Championship game, it was a horrible call because not only was the Texas player not immediately tackled by the horse collar, he wasn't tackled by the Husker who grabbed him by the collar at all. Another Nebraska player (sorry not sure of the players involved) tackled the ball carrier forward. Rules intended to make the game safer are a good thing, but when those rules are called too frequently it makes them look like unnecessary impediments to good, hard-nosed football. There are several rules that fall into this category - Horse Collars, helmet to helmet contact (A good example of this was from the Washington UCLA game where Kevin Prince (UCLA Quarterback) dove forward lowering his head while running the ball. Butler (Washington LB) was trying to go under Prince's helmet but Prince kept going lower and their helmets collided. Butler was flagged for helmet to helmet, but what were his options on that play? He was already moving lower to try to get under Prince's helmet) Roughing the Passer, and Defensless Player calls are the same. If the widereceiver bobbles the ball and doesn't catch, how is a tackler supposed to change momentum in half a second? All these rules have their place to prevent or penalize eggregious and flagrant safey issues, but overenforcment creates animosity towards the rules and lessens the quality of the play.

 
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The horse collar rule is bogus. They should rename it the "can't tackle high when coming from behind" rule. 85% of the calls that are ruled a horse collar are jersey grabs, but I guess it serves the same purpose since it is just as dangerous to drag a guy down by the jersey than by the pads.

 
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