How Great is Dobson

[bball_backer]

We've all seen the video of Suh on Sports Science and remember all the talk about how explosive, powerful and quick he was.

They just did a segment on the Combine about Prince. He was wearing a special Under Armor shirt that measured g's guys produced in their workouts. Prince produced more g's on his 40 than any other guy, including receivers that were running low 4.3s. Dobson does an amazing job with these guys.

 

[darkhorse85]

That's pretty cool. It's amazing what they can do these days to test and measure just about anything you could think of.

 

[Husker Richard]

We've all seen the video of Suh on Sports Science and remember all the talk about how explosive, powerful and quick he was.

They just did a segment on the Combine about Prince. He was wearing a special Under Armor shirt that measured g's guys produced in their workouts. Prince produced more g's on his 40 than any other guy, including receivers that were running low 4.3s. Dobson does an amazing job with these guys.

I love what Dobson has done with our team. He knows how to add lean mass without sacrificing speed, in some cases the guys get faster (think Helu). He excels at taking high schoolers and helping them grow into their frames.

Not knocking Dobson's work by any means because he's the one working with them over the course of their college careers, but a lot of these guys go train elsewhere for the combine. If you recall last year's combine, Nike did an internet series on Suh and his combine training at the Michael Johnson Performance Center. IDK where Prince trained this year.

 

[knapplc]

Not knocking Dobson's work by any means because he's the one working with them over the course of their college careers, but a lot of these guys go train elsewhere for the combine. If you recall last year's combine, Nike did an internet series on Suh and his combine training at the Michael Johnson Performance Center. IDK where Prince trained this year.

That's not a knock on Dobson, that's just the reality of what Suh was going through. At the Performance Center he got more individualized training, sometimes with a team of guys at a time, while Dobson and his comparatively smaller staff have to split time between 100+ guys on the team.

Amukamara trained in AZ at the Athletes' Performance Institute for the same reasons.

 

[Husker Richard]

Not knocking Dobson's work by any means because he's the one working with them over the course of their college careers, but a lot of these guys go train elsewhere for the combine. If you recall last year's combine, Nike did an internet series on Suh and his combine training at the Michael Johnson Performance Center. IDK where Prince trained this year.

That's not a knock on Dobson, that's just the reality of what Suh was going through. At the Performance Center he got more individualized training, sometimes with a team of guys at a time, while Dobson and his comparatively smaller staff have to split time between 100+ guys on the team.

Amukamara trained in AZ at the Athletes' Performance Institute for the same reasons.

I was referring to how the OP was attributing Prince and Suhs' combine success to Dobson. While Dobson certainly played an essential role in training them over their college careers, the real training for the combine took place elsewhere. The performance centers really hone their techniques in the 40, broad jump, etc, and that's where they really make the most gains in terms of combine numbers.

 

[knapplc]

Not knocking Dobson's work by any means because he's the one working with them over the course of their college careers, but a lot of these guys go train elsewhere for the combine. If you recall last year's combine, Nike did an internet series on Suh and his combine training at the Michael Johnson Performance Center. IDK where Prince trained this year.

That's not a knock on Dobson, that's just the reality of what Suh was going through. At the Performance Center he got more individualized training, sometimes with a team of guys at a time, while Dobson and his comparatively smaller staff have to split time between 100+ guys on the team.

Amukamara trained in AZ at the Athletes' Performance Institute for the same reasons.

I was referring to how the OP was attributing Prince and Suhs' combine success to Dobson. While Dobson certainly played an essential role in training them over their college careers, the real training for the combine took place elsewhere. The performance centers really hone their techniques in the 40, broad jump, etc, and that's where they really make the most gains in terms of combine numbers.

"Hone" is probably a great word to use there. Dobson is like the factory that makes the blade, while these centers are the grinding wheels that make them super-sharp.

 

[n.e.husker]

Hes GReeeaattttt!

Seriously, very happy with what Dobson has done for this team thus far. We are fortunate to have him on our side.

 

[Chaddyboxer]

I do agree that the centers do play an influential factor on the athletes performance...BUT it all depends on how long they are there for their conditioning and training. If it is only for a few weeks to a month, you won't see HUGE improvement. I give mad props to Dobson on what he had done to these athletes. Dobsons knows what he is doing! At the centers, they may fine tune a few things and show them a bit better technique and those can transfer over to better success in various perforamnce measures. It's great to see NEB athletes dominating in the combine.

 

[Chaddyboxer]

Not knocking Dobson's work by any means because he's the one working with them over the course of their college careers, but a lot of these guys go train elsewhere for the combine. If you recall last year's combine, Nike did an internet series on Suh and his combine training at the Michael Johnson Performance Center. IDK where Prince trained this year.

That's not a knock on Dobson, that's just the reality of what Suh was going through. At the Performance Center he got more individualized training, sometimes with a team of guys at a time, while Dobson and his comparatively smaller staff have to split time between 100+ guys on the team.

Amukamara trained in AZ at the Athletes' Performance Institute for the same reasons.

I was referring to how the OP was attributing Prince and Suhs' combine success to Dobson. While Dobson certainly played an essential role in training them over their college careers, the real training for the combine took place elsewhere. The performance centers really hone their techniques in the 40, broad jump, etc, and that's where they really make the most gains in terms of combine numbers.

"Hone" is probably a great word to use there. Dobson is like the factory that makes the blade, while these centers are the grinding wheels that make them super-sharp.

good analogy

 

[UGAHusker]

Keith Williams' 225 lb bench performance would suggest otherwise. Hopefully he really did just "cramp up" and our guys' upper body muscle endurance isn't actually that poor.

 

[knapplc]

One guy does not disprove a trend.

 

[UGAHusker]

One guy does not disprove a trend.

How Great is Dobson Suh and Amukumara

 

So two guys are enough to establish a trend?

 

[n.e.husker]

Roy Helu is trendy...

 

[knapplc]

Not just Suh, Amukamara and Helu, but every guy on the team who's bulked up, added strength while retaining speed, etc. Overall the results with Dobson are good. One guy performing poorly, or even a few guys, doesn't obviate that.

 

[UGAHusker]

"bulked up, added strength while retaining speed"...so essentially you're referring to the vast majority of college football players in America over the course of their careers.

I have nothing against Dobson and I think he'll be great. I'm just saying that I think it'll take a few more years of output (positive and negative) before one can really determine his aptitude. I'm anxious to see how his first class of freshmen do once they're seniors and/or running through the combine gauntlet.