This. So, so much this. Everyone's straw man argument is "have you seen practice".......... I haven't. I only watch the games, but there is no way in hell that some of those routes that TA continually misses in games are his money throws in practice. It is the job of the OC, and even his own admission, to hammer what the guys can do and make it work. The inside zone, IIRC, is his go to run game.....really? The won that has pretty much been the least productive of our run schemes.....These arguments are always one-sided - pointing to the time that TA passed on another throw.And for some reason some games he would throw that ball very well then the next he couldn't hit it or ignored it.
I re watched the first half pass plays today to watch the line play.
I remember at least twice on YOLO passes that ended drives there were relievers underneath or in the flats open that would have gotten the first down. If he hits those the drive stays alive. He was oblivious to them.
I'm betting the Alabama QB would not have ignored them for a covered receiver 40 yards down field.
That's not the play call's fault.
My argument is that there are other games when we were calling different types of pass plays that didn't have the deep options for TA to choose. There were several games where we almost exclusively had short routes and TA had high completion percentages those games.
My point is we did not seem to be calling those same types of plays in other games. That is the play caller's fault.
simple tendanciesCan anyone explain why the deep out and slot/te out seems open a lot against us?
You can't take everything away on defense. There are going to be things you focus on stopping more and things you're going to take your chances on.Is that only a scheme problem or is it a talent/speed problem, or both?
I mean when we are on DCount 'Bility said:simple tendanciesTITANIC VS LUSITANIA said:Can anyone explain why the deep out and slot/te out seems open a lot against us?
we dont have a qb that can routinely hit those throws. So defense let them be for the most part to double down on things our qb does do well. The schematic answers to questions like this are not nearly as complicated as they seem. It's simple philosophy. And the thing is, we can sit here and say our qb should run more, but when our pass game is not well-rounded enough, that's inneffective as well.
ThanksMavric said:For starters, if it's the Slot we like to try to have the LB split the difference between covering the slot and supporting the run so they have a lot of ground to cover to get to the out. Also, our LBs attack the run hard so any play-action gets them way out of position and they have trouble getting back into the passing lanes.TITANIC VS LUSITANIA said:Can anyone explain why the deep out and slot/te out seems open a lot against us?
The easiest route to throw against us in the fly/out combination. The Fly route from the outside WR clears out the CB and we aren't in very good position with anyone else to cover the out.
2 - CheckThings that need to happen:
1 - Fire Banker
2 - Fire Reed
3 - Promote Bray to DC
4 - Hire Thompson as full-time assistant
5 - Hire another young, high-energy assistant who can recruit like crazy
6 - ???
7 - Profit
Wait Banker got fired? Unless you mean he got fired from saftes coach then yes he did. I think 1 and three are missing the boat and 2 is a check, or that's what you mean.1 - CheckThings that need to happen:
1 - Fire Banker
2 - Fire Reed
3 - Promote Bray to DC
4 - Hire Thompson as full-time assistant
5 - Hire another young, high-energy assistant who can recruit like crazy
6 - ???
7 - Profit
2 & 3 - Missing the boat
4 - Coming in April
5 - Check
7 - Somewhat, but not to the fullest extent.
3-4 deep shots a game, at varying down and distance? Absolutely.But you can't only have short route patterns or those easy underneath throws won't be there either.These arguments are always one-sided - pointing to the time that TA passed on another throw.And for some reason some games he would throw that ball very well then the next he couldn't hit it or ignored it.
I re watched the first half pass plays today to watch the line play.
I remember at least twice on YOLO passes that ended drives there were relievers underneath or in the flats open that would have gotten the first down. If he hits those the drive stays alive. He was oblivious to them.
I'm betting the Alabama QB would not have ignored them for a covered receiver 40 yards down field.
That's not the play call's fault.
My argument is that there are other games when we were calling different types of pass plays that didn't have the deep options for TA to choose. There were several games where we almost exclusively had short routes and TA had high completion percentages those games.
My point is we did not seem to be calling those same types of plays in other games. That is the play caller's fault.
Again, I'm no Armstrong apologist.
But he's not so inconsistent that he'll complete 70% of his passes one game and 37% the next if the same type of pass plays are being called.
Sorry. Had 1 & 2 swapped. Edited above.Wait Banker got fired? Unless you mean he got fired from saftes coach then yes he did. I think 1 and three are missing the boat and 2 is a check, or that's what you mean.1 - CheckThings that need to happen:
1 - Fire Banker
2 - Fire Reed
3 - Promote Bray to DC
4 - Hire Thompson as full-time assistant
5 - Hire another young, high-energy assistant who can recruit like crazy
6 - ???
7 - Profit
2 & 3 - Missing the boat
4 - Coming in April
5 - Check
7 - Somewhat, but not to the fullest extent.