Huskers heightening expectations for 2012.

saunders45 said:
kchusker_chris said:
i certainly don't disagree w/ it. last week I had a goal to win the mega millions. 155 tickets later i came up a little short.

but saying you'll be "pretty disappointed" if you don't go to the national championship is a bit of a stretch for Taylor. it's an almost unrealistic goal. it's like he lives in a bubble. it also mean's the first loss of the season puts his goal out of reach. and it kind of conflicts with the "process" of just taking it one game at a time. this team goes from highs to lows faster than a teenage girl. i wish someone would just come out and say: "my goal is to win our first game of the year. ask me again after that and I'll tell you my goal is to win the next time, and so on, and so on...if I achieve that goal every week, things take care of themselves."
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IMO, it's just a different way of wording the same goal. If this was a Rex Burkhead quote, nobody would care.
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Rex knows better, he would never come out and make such a statement.

 
robsker said:
Of course a quote (or misquote) will not tank a season. And which player authored the quote is irrelevant.

Now we do not know how pervasive the mindset that led to the quote is on the team --- perhaps this undue confidence is an isolated thing reflecting the perspectives of a few players... or, perhaps it is reflective of a huge subset of the team. We cannot (or, at least... I cannot) really say.

But if the quote is reflective of the attitude of the team then the quote is a symptom of a larger problem.

The problem is manifest this way.... we are NU and we are above playing Washington in the bowl game --- it is insulting to play them. LOSS. We are NU --- we show up against Northwestern and since we are so good and they are not... we will win w/o a problem. LOSS.

When a team is thinking championships when they have not had one in a decade --- when a team thinks they are so good that they should be feared (yet no one fears them) then the team is focusing on the wrong thing...

These coaches should be saying "shut up about championships and have hanging onto the ball as a goal.' Have playing hard, every snap of every game regardless of score your goal. Have not dropping passes as your goal. Have knowing your assignment as your goal. have your goals honed in entirely on process and getting better. The coaches should say shut up about what you think you should be and focus on getting better. Finally the coaches should tell the players that the coaches at NU and the players at NU have earned nothing yet --- have warranted no ones respect yet --- that the coaches and players collectively have not yet earned the right to have a Red N on their helmets --- and that now is the time to change that --- by totally dedicating to effort, intensity, discipline, an focus on assignment. Humble dedication to the process --- not arrogant entitled expectation.

No… the quote itself will not tank the season… the quote is but a symptom. The ailment is an entitled and mis-guided sense that somehow this team has warranted respect… when it clearly has not. Respect is earned… buckle down and earn it.
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I think you're reading waaaaaaay too much into it, but that's just me.

 
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Hunter94 said:
saunders45 said:
kchusker_chris said:
i certainly don't disagree w/ it. last week I had a goal to win the mega millions. 155 tickets later i came up a little short.

but saying you'll be "pretty disappointed" if you don't go to the national championship is a bit of a stretch for Taylor. it's an almost unrealistic goal. it's like he lives in a bubble. it also mean's the first loss of the season puts his goal out of reach. and it kind of conflicts with the "process" of just taking it one game at a time. this team goes from highs to lows faster than a teenage girl. i wish someone would just come out and say: "my goal is to win our first game of the year. ask me again after that and I'll tell you my goal is to win the next time, and so on, and so on...if I achieve that goal every week, things take care of themselves."
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IMO, it's just a different way of wording the same goal. If this was a Rex Burkhead quote, nobody would care.
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Rex knows better, he would never come out and make such a statement.
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He would give the "one game at a time" speech, which is the PC way of saying "we want to win them all."

 
saunders45 said:
robsker said:
Of course a quote (or misquote) will not tank a season. And which player authored the quote is irrelevant.

Now we do not know how pervasive the mindset that led to the quote is on the team --- perhaps this undue confidence is an isolated thing reflecting the perspectives of a few players... or, perhaps it is reflective of a huge subset of the team. We cannot (or, at least... I cannot) really say.

But if the quote is reflective of the attitude of the team then the quote is a symptom of a larger problem.

The problem is manifest this way.... we are NU and we are above playing Washington in the bowl game --- it is insulting to play them. LOSS. We are NU --- we show up against Northwestern and since we are so good and they are not... we will win w/o a problem. LOSS.

When a team is thinking championships when they have not had one in a decade --- when a team thinks they are so good that they should be feared (yet no one fears them) then the team is focusing on the wrong thing...

These coaches should be saying "shut up about championships and have hanging onto the ball as a goal.' Have playing hard, every snap of every game regardless of score your goal. Have not dropping passes as your goal. Have knowing your assignment as your goal. have your goals honed in entirely on process and getting better. The coaches should say shut up about what you think you should be and focus on getting better. Finally the coaches should tell the players that the coaches at NU and the players at NU have earned nothing yet --- have warranted no ones respect yet --- that the coaches and players collectively have not yet earned the right to have a Red N on their helmets --- and that now is the time to change that --- by totally dedicating to effort, intensity, discipline, an focus on assignment. Humble dedication to the process --- not arrogant entitled expectation.

No… the quote itself will not tank the season… the quote is but a symptom. The ailment is an entitled and mis-guided sense that somehow this team has warranted respect… when it clearly has not. Respect is earned… buckle down and earn it.
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I think you're reading waaaaaaay too much into it, but that's just me.
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You are probably right! I am pretty passionate re: Husker football. I just want to see effort out of this team...

Winning or losing is really not so much the point. Simply play "hair on fire" intense every play and it is fun to see --- even if the other team beats you. It frustrates me that NU plays such flat, lifeless football.

 
robsker said:
saunders45 said:
robsker said:
Of course a quote (or misquote) will not tank a season. And which player authored the quote is irrelevant.

Now we do not know how pervasive the mindset that led to the quote is on the team --- perhaps this undue confidence is an isolated thing reflecting the perspectives of a few players... or, perhaps it is reflective of a huge subset of the team. We cannot (or, at least... I cannot) really say.

But if the quote is reflective of the attitude of the team then the quote is a symptom of a larger problem.

The problem is manifest this way.... we are NU and we are above playing Washington in the bowl game --- it is insulting to play them. LOSS. We are NU --- we show up against Northwestern and since we are so good and they are not... we will win w/o a problem. LOSS.

When a team is thinking championships when they have not had one in a decade --- when a team thinks they are so good that they should be feared (yet no one fears them) then the team is focusing on the wrong thing...

These coaches should be saying "shut up about championships and have hanging onto the ball as a goal.' Have playing hard, every snap of every game regardless of score your goal. Have not dropping passes as your goal. Have knowing your assignment as your goal. have your goals honed in entirely on process and getting better. The coaches should say shut up about what you think you should be and focus on getting better. Finally the coaches should tell the players that the coaches at NU and the players at NU have earned nothing yet --- have warranted no ones respect yet --- that the coaches and players collectively have not yet earned the right to have a Red N on their helmets --- and that now is the time to change that --- by totally dedicating to effort, intensity, discipline, an focus on assignment. Humble dedication to the process --- not arrogant entitled expectation.

No… the quote itself will not tank the season… the quote is but a symptom. The ailment is an entitled and mis-guided sense that somehow this team has warranted respect… when it clearly has not. Respect is earned… buckle down and earn it.
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I think you're reading waaaaaaay too much into it, but that's just me.
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You are probably right! I am pretty passionate re: Husker football. I just want to see effort out of this team...

Winning or losing is really not so much the point. Simply play "hair on fire" intense every play and it is fun to see --- even if the other team beats you. It frustrates me that NU plays such flat, lifeless football.
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I agree with that 100%. The biggest issue with Nebraska under Bo, is I've yet to see us play a solid complete game on both sides of the ball, and it's been 4 years. I agree the players and staff need to buckle down, but the dangling carrot can be good motivation.

 
saunders45 said:
Hunter94 said:
saunders45 said:
kchusker_chris said:
i certainly don't disagree w/ it. last week I had a goal to win the mega millions. 155 tickets later i came up a little short.

but saying you'll be "pretty disappointed" if you don't go to the national championship is a bit of a stretch for Taylor. it's an almost unrealistic goal. it's like he lives in a bubble. it also mean's the first loss of the season puts his goal out of reach. and it kind of conflicts with the "process" of just taking it one game at a time. this team goes from highs to lows faster than a teenage girl. i wish someone would just come out and say: "my goal is to win our first game of the year. ask me again after that and I'll tell you my goal is to win the next time, and so on, and so on...if I achieve that goal every week, things take care of themselves."
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IMO, it's just a different way of wording the same goal. If this was a Rex Burkhead quote, nobody would care.
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Rex knows better, he would never come out and make such a statement.
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He would give the "one game at a time" speech, which is the PC way of saying "we want to win them all."
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correct.

 
Strange, I thought things like, hanging on to the football and fundamentals were all part of the process towards a national championship...not two separate goals in and of themselves. Each player should have their goals, each unit should have its goals, and among all of the goals one thing should be common: playing for championships. Because if you don't set that goal, then you're not playing hard enough.

In so much its not the problem of having too lofty of goals for this team as much as the inability for them to bounce back when things are going their way. It's not the goals, it's the response to adversity that the team hasn't quite overcome, in my opinion.

 
It maybe a little arrogant and a tad ridiculous to say "We will be dissapointed if we are not playing in the National Championship game" when we weren't even in the conference title game last year, let alone won* a conference title since 1999*

However....

The mindset is correct in terms of "We are here to play for and win a National Championship", that is an end-goal in mind while not sounding arrogant. Neither does "one game at a time" or "We want to win them all." The end goal is the important thing.

I think it would be fine to want to talk about winning a conference title before talking National title, babysteps, but we are moving in the right direciton. I would agree more with the 2nd quote as opposed to the 1st quote.

 
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HuskerShark said:
kchusker_chris said:
But, do you think we'd ever see a quote like this from Rex? I don't think so.
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Hunter94 said:
Rex knows better, he would never come out and make such a statement.
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http://www.huskermax...vid/00/z02.html

Maybe Rex doesn't say it in the same way that Taylor says it, but Rex and Taylor are definitely on the same page.

I believe Rex's exact words are:

"National Title or bust."
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He says every teams goal is for a National title, including us. It starts with winning your division, then the Big 10. Anything less, is a bust.

There it is folks.

 
For the guys that are somewhat complaining about TM's quote...Did any of you play high school football and what was your teams goal for any of the seasons, it was probably to win a state title. Very seldom do you here a kid talk about winning a confrence title, they always talk about the state titles...This is the same thing, only in a bigger scale.

I do not have a problem with what TM said cause every athlete says the same thing about winning all the marbles and not just a confrence title.

 
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