Huskers Need a New Coach

[I Bleed RED]

Firing Cally is the worst possible thing that could happen right now. Not only when almost all of the recruits decommit we would have to start all over again with a new coach. Horrible idea and not what we should do right now. I say get rid of Cosgrove at the end of the season and maybe some other assistants and bring in some new assistants.

Well let's see how the season plays out. If we win 7 or fewer games then he should be canned. That will be tough because of the extension however ASU fired Dirk Koetter 6 months after a new extension and they don't have NU pockets.

Petey would never fire a coach like that especially since his job would be in jeopardy for hiring him in the first place.

I agree completely. He won't fire Cally unless we lose from here on out.

PUD should have some security. We are volleyball champ!!!... girl power.... a joke that our brightest star is girls volleyball...no offense ladies.

 

[Hunter94]

Firing Cally is the worst possible thing that could happen right now. Not only when almost all of the recruits decommit we would have to start all over again with a new coach. Horrible idea and not what we should do right now. I say get rid of Cosgrove at the end of the season and maybe some other assistants and bring in some new assistants.

Well let's see how the season plays out. If we win 7 or fewer games then he should be canned. That will be tough because of the extension however ASU fired Dirk Koetter 6 months after a new extension and they don't have NU pockets.

Petey would never fire a coach like that especially since his job would be in jeopardy for hiring him in the first place.

agreed, but coz is totally expendable, that is for sure.

 

[REDSTEEL]

Please somebody answer me this 1 very critical question:

If Solich ran the program into the ground and couldn't recruit talent how was he able to win 10 games and Cally best season he won 9 but lost 5?

I don't think Solich should be our coach nor am I saying he is better than Callahan for NU

BUT This proves that if Solich's talent is worse than Cally's and the BIG 12 is worse now and KSU and CU are worse than they were 5 years ago when Solich coached then why are we losing so many games???? COACHING!!!!!!!

Um, seriously?

How about becuase Solich's best teams were with players inherited from three national championship squads including a certain future Heisman winner with 4 years of eligibility left. In addition, these players were perfect fits in the system Solich wanted to run.

BC inherited sketchy players to run a completely opposite system. I wouldn't confuse Dailey, Ross, (simmer down just making a point) and Incognito with Crouch, Mike Brown, and Raiola. But that's just me.

And by the way, I misspelled "because" up there. Did I leave it to be ironical about your posts? You'll never know!

Ok Solich was the better coach Callahan the better recruiter.

 

[DaveH]

Thats it, you hit it right on the head :sarcasm ...douche

Hey look, name calling! I'm sure this will be overlooked though.

If you have a problem with how the board is run, you have two options.

1. Contact Blackshirt.

2. Leave.

Notice that being a martyr and snide is not an option.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Firing Cally is the worst possible thing that could happen right now. Not only when almost all of the recruits decommit we would have to start all over again with a new coach. Horrible idea and not what we should do right now. I say get rid of Cosgrove at the end of the season and maybe some other assistants and bring in some new assistants.

Well let's see how the season plays out. If we win 7 or fewer games then he should be canned. That will be tough because of the extension however ASU fired Dirk Koetter 6 months after a new extension and they don't have NU pockets.

Petey would never fire a coach like that especially since his job would be in jeopardy for hiring him in the first place.

agreed, but coz is totally expendable, that is for sure.

Definately agree......... :thumbs

 

[NUpolo8]

Please somebody answer me this 1 very critical question:

If Solich ran the program into the ground and couldn't recruit talent how was he able to win 10 games and Cally best season he won 9 but lost 5?

I don't think Solich should be our coach nor am I saying he is better than Callahan for NU

BUT This proves that if Solich's talent is worse than Cally's and the BIG 12 is worse now and KSU and CU are worse than they were 5 years ago when Solich coached then why are we losing so many games???? COACHING!!!!!!!

Um, seriously?

How about becuase Solich's best teams were with players inherited from three national championship squads including a certain future Heisman winner with 4 years of eligibility left. In addition, these players were perfect fits in the system Solich wanted to run.

BC inherited sketchy players to run a completely opposite system. I wouldn't confuse Dailey, Ross, (simmer down just making a point) and Incognito with Crouch, Mike Brown, and Raiola. But that's just me.

And by the way, I misspelled "because" up there. Did I leave it to be ironical about your posts? You'll never know!

Ok Solich was the better coach Callahan the better recruiter.

Solich had a team in 1999 that should have skated to the National title, yet couldn't. I don't think Solich was a better coach then Callahan but considering this isn't 2004 I'm not discussing this any more.

 

[REDSTEEL]

Please somebody answer me this 1 very critical question:

If Solich ran the program into the ground and couldn't recruit talent how was he able to win 10 games and Cally best season he won 9 but lost 5?

I don't think Solich should be our coach nor am I saying he is better than Callahan for NU

BUT This proves that if Solich's talent is worse than Cally's and the BIG 12 is worse now and KSU and CU are worse than they were 5 years ago when Solich coached then why are we losing so many games???? COACHING!!!!!!!

Um, seriously?

How about becuase Solich's best teams were with players inherited from three national championship squads including a certain future Heisman winner with 4 years of eligibility left. In addition, these players were perfect fits in the system Solich wanted to run.

BC inherited sketchy players to run a completely opposite system. I wouldn't confuse Dailey, Ross, (simmer down just making a point) and Incognito with Crouch, Mike Brown, and Raiola. But that's just me.

And by the way, I misspelled "because" up there. Did I leave it to be ironical about your posts? You'll never know!

Ok Solich was the better coach Callahan the better recruiter.

Solich had a team in 1999 that should have skated to the National title, yet couldn't. I don't think Solich was a better coach then Callahan but considering this isn't 2004 I'm not discussing this any more.

He lost one game that year to texas in texas 20 to 24 and then beat them in the Big 12 Conference Championship any other year that would get you into the NC. thats hardly the picture you make it out to be.

His record was 12-1 that year and finished 2 in the polls I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure fans would kill for that now.

What this tells me is if he had the good player and could recruit he could be a pretty good coach.

 

[I Bleed RED]

Please somebody answer me this 1 very critical question:

If Solich ran the program into the ground and couldn't recruit talent how was he able to win 10 games and Cally best season he won 9 but lost 5?

I don't think Solich should be our coach nor am I saying he is better than Callahan for NU

BUT This proves that if Solich's talent is worse than Cally's and the BIG 12 is worse now and KSU and CU are worse than they were 5 years ago when Solich coached then why are we losing so many games???? COACHING!!!!!!!

Um, seriously?

How about becuase Solich's best teams were with players inherited from three national championship squads including a certain future Heisman winner with 4 years of eligibility left. In addition, these players were perfect fits in the system Solich wanted to run.

BC inherited sketchy players to run a completely opposite system. I wouldn't confuse Dailey, Ross, (simmer down just making a point) and Incognito with Crouch, Mike Brown, and Raiola. But that's just me.

And by the way, I misspelled "because" up there. Did I leave it to be ironical about your posts? You'll never know!

Ok Solich was the better coach Callahan the better recruiter.

Solich had a team in 1999 that should have skated to the National title, yet couldn't. I don't think Solich was a better coach then Callahan but considering this isn't 2004 I'm not discussing this any more.

I am talking about the year Solich got fired. He was in year 6, they were 100% his players and they definitely were not as talented as this team, so why did they win 10 games in a tougher conference and Cally is struggling with more talent and a weaker conference? Coaching is my point.

 

[skersfan]

You say the conference was tougher. What makes that so.

The teams are more even accross the board. There are no gimmies any more. Every team we face this year will be better than they were when Solich was winning with TO's recruits.

And I am comparing Solich's teams, his recruits against BC's recruits. Next year will be the first year that BC has his own all on the field. Could be better could be worse, but we won't know the real answer until then.

We were headed down fast before, we may still be headed that way, but things have changed and at least there is a chance of it going the other way. I don't think it would have ever changed with Frank. And I am a fan of Coach Solich and always have been. But he was out of his area of expertise. Had other problems off the field and dared the AD to fire him basically. Past history. He is not coming back and I am glad about that.

I still think the jury is out on BC. I still trust he is doing the right things. He has at least the 6 years Coach Solich had in my mind. Coz is a different story. But I will not call for his firing. That is up to the head coach. If he feels he is doing and adequate job it is his neck on the line.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

You say the conference was tougher. What makes that so.

The teams are more even accross the board. There are no gimmies any more. Every team we face this year will be better than they were when Solich was winning with TO's recruits.

And I am comparing Solich's teams, his recruits against BC's recruits. Next year will be the first year that BC has his own all on the field. Could be better could be worse, but we won't know the real answer until then.

We were headed down fast before, we may still be headed that way, but things have changed and at least there is a chance of it going the other way. I don't think it would have ever changed with Frank. And I am a fan of Coach Solich and always have been. But he was out of his area of expertise. Had other problems off the field and dared the AD to fire him basically. Past history. He is not coming back and I am glad about that.

I still think the jury is out on BC. I still trust he is doing the right things. He has at least the 6 years Coach Solich had in my mind. Coz is a different story. But I will not call for his firing. That is up to the head coach. If he feels he is doing and adequate job it is his neck on the line.

Get some new assistants and I think we will be fine.

 

[Hunter94]

no, new assistants wouldn't make the difference. if we are going to clean house on defense, clear the parking lot!

 

[I Bleed RED]

You say the conference was tougher. What makes that so.

The teams are more even accross the board. There are no gimmies any more. Every team we face this year will be better than they were when Solich was winning with TO's recruits.

And I am comparing Solich's teams, his recruits against BC's recruits. Next year will be the first year that BC has his own all on the field. Could be better could be worse, but we won't know the real answer until then.

We were headed down fast before, we may still be headed that way, but things have changed and at least there is a chance of it going the other way. I don't think it would have ever changed with Frank. And I am a fan of Coach Solich and always have been. But he was out of his area of expertise. Had other problems off the field and dared the AD to fire him basically. Past history. He is not coming back and I am glad about that.

I still think the jury is out on BC. I still trust he is doing the right things. He has at least the 6 years Coach Solich had in my mind. Coz is a different story. But I will not call for his firing. That is up to the head coach. If he feels he is doing and adequate job it is his neck on the line.

Mediocrity and being the second worst BCS conference doesn't sound like it's very good to me. Because everyone is beatable doesn't make a conference tougher, just the opposite.

2003 Records vs. 2006 records

9-5 Colorado 2-10

11-4 KSUcks 7-6

8-5 Mizzou 8-5

12-2 OU 11-3

8-5 OK St 7-6

10-3 TX 10-3

6-6 A&M 9-4

8-5 T Tech 8-5

7-7 ISU 4-8

10-3 NU 9-5

Overall conference recored in

2003:98-61 = 62% winning %

2006:85-69 = 55% winning %

So 1 team improved and 4 teams got much worse and others stayed or went down slightly. I would say the conference was tougher. The conference was better then.

And I will repeat..I DON'T want Solich, I don't think he was the right guy long term but it does bring up the issue of Cally's coaching ability.

 

[skersfan]

The difference is what he started with.

One had it on a gold platter the other, well we all have our own thoughts on that.

What are the out of conference totals this year. last year or the year before do not count in a fair comparison until after this season.

Again we may be worse, but all the negativety is not good for the team or the program or recruiting. I would like to see a few more games before I even start to think the way some are.

We have seen the gods lose this year to unranked teams. We have seen historically great teams lose two in a row to less than stellar talent. We have seen one that has gone 0 and 5. Is it his coaching that has ruined their seasoon?

Weis was able to win with the previous coaches players, but has not faired to well with his own.

I truly think Stoops fits into that category. I have not been impressed with Stoops since Blake's talent left. Being ready to play the big game has not been a strong point for him, in my mind.

What about Meyer losing to Auburn, with all the talent they have. Is it coaching their to?

Things are changing in college football. Some of the better programs realized how important every aspect of the game is. I think our AD realized, but the one before him should have.

I think we see a better than adequate offense, that truly does not have the star power that BC has been trying to recruit. We lose those battles to the more glamorous programs. What is going on in Nebraska now is not helping the chances of bringing them here. If they think the coach is going to be fired at any moment.

I said early in the year when all were ranting about our line backers. We do not have the speed across the board. Most knocked Ruud, but the rest are not a lot better. Some only play when they want to, some are more into making jokes. This is not a coaches fault. But the recruiting of those types is. But sometimes you take what you can get.

Dillard is good one, what would have happened if we had gotten Reggie Smith, Ray M (SC) or Devine at West Virginia? Those are instant highlight players that we went after hard. But missed out on. We took what was below them, too fill the gaps. Hoping they would work out. Some may.

There are a lot of things wrong.

But now is not the time to fix it or scream about it.

I know you love this program as much as I do. We just have different ideas of when a change is to be made, or if one is truly in the best interst of the program.

 

[I Bleed RED]

The difference is what he started with.

One had it on a gold platter the other, well we all have our own thoughts on that.

What are the out of conference totals this year. last year or the year before do not count in a fair comparison until after this season.

Again we may be worse, but all the negativety is not good for the team or the program or recruiting. I would like to see a few more games before I even start to think the way some are.

We have seen the gods lose this year to unranked teams. We have seen historically great teams lose two in a row to less than stellar talent. We have seen one that has gone 0 and 5. Is it his coaching that has ruined their seasoon?

Weis was able to win with the previous coaches players, but has not faired to well with his own.

I truly think Stoops fits into that category. I have not been impressed with Stoops since Blake's talent left. Being ready to play the big game has not been a strong point for him, in my mind.

What about Meyer losing to Auburn, with all the talent they have. Is it coaching their to?

Things are changing in college football. Some of the better programs realized how important every aspect of the game is. I think our AD realized, but the one before him should have.

I think we see a better than adequate offense, that truly does not have the star power that BC has been trying to recruit. We lose those battles to the more glamorous programs. What is going on in Nebraska now is not helping the chances of bringing them here. If they think the coach is going to be fired at any moment.

I said early in the year when all were ranting about our line backers. We do not have the speed across the board. Most knocked Ruud, but the rest are not a lot better. Some only play when they want to, some are more into making jokes. This is not a coaches fault. But the recruiting of those types is. But sometimes you take what you can get.

Dillard is good one, what would have happened if we had gotten Reggie Smith, Ray M (SC) or Devine at West Virginia? Those are instant highlight players that we went after hard. But missed out on. We took what was below them, too fill the gaps. Hoping they would work out. Some may.

There are a lot of things wrong.

But now is not the time to fix it or scream about it.

I know you love this program as much as I do. We just have different ideas of when a change is to be made, or if one is truly in the best interst of the program.

My argument was about the Big 12 being better in 2003 vs now. The overall records may even get worse from last year at the top. And Solich had all of his own players in 2003 and we are allegedly (and I agree) more talented now then we were then. I think you are taking my topic too far. It was merely saying that our coaches have more talent then Solich did in 2003 (that's why he was fired) and they aren't able to win as well as he did. That bothers me. The cupboard isn't even close to bare right now like some claim it was in 2003.

I am just making this point to all of those who argue that we had no talent with Solich and we have great recruits with Callahan...if that is true (and I think it is) then why aren't we winning more and a better team?

 

[HuskerJosh82]

I think we need a new coach. :sarcasm