I say it aint so Joe..

SkullandBones

SkullandBones

Special Teams Player
I've read alot of different threads since the game on Saturday and there seems to be alot of "if only Ganz had...." talk. Don't hang this one on Joe Ganz. 36 of 44, an 81% completion rate with 2 TDs. He's the reason we topped the second ranked offensive machine in the country. He made ONE, ONE mistake. I'd pin it on penalties way before I'd pin it on Ganz.

Game Balls:

Joe Ganz

Jacob HIckman

Matt Holt - True freshman, seven solo tackles and an assist. NU's defensive player of the game.

 
Don't get me wrong. I DONT BLAME THIS LOSS ON GANZ. We should have won in regulation, we had multiple opportunites. HOWEVER, Ganz is constantly holding the ball TOO long and making dumb decisions with the football when he does, either taking a dumb sack or trying to throw the ball 20 yards with two defenders haning on him, repeatedly he can't figure out when to take the sack and when to throw the ball out of bounds. We saw it last year and everyone attributed it to him trying to win a shootout.

 
kstatehater said:
Don't get me wrong. I DONT BLAME THIS LOSS ON GANZ. We should have won in regulation, we had multiple opportunites. HOWEVER, Ganz is constantly holding the ball TOO long and making dumb decisions with the football when he does, either taking a dumb sack or trying to throw the ball 20 yards with two defenders haning on him, repeatedly he can't figure out when to take the sack and when to throw the ball out of bounds. We saw it last year and everyone attributed it to him trying to win a shootout.
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Agree to an extent. But I'm not going to call Ganz out on anything because without his effort we are likely getting blown out again. Kid was a stud yesterday.

 
Fair enough hater, but I still don't think we are within shouting distance on Saturday without him.

You're right newearth, my oversight.. gameball for Marlon.

 
SkullandBones said:
I've read alot of different threads since the game on Saturday and there seems to be alot of "if only Ganz had...." talk. Don't hang this one on Joe Ganz. 36 of 44, an 81% completion rate with 2 TDs. He's the reason we topped the second ranked offensive machine in the country. He made ONE, ONE mistake. I'd pin it on penalties way before I'd pin it on Ganz.

Game Balls:

Joe Ganz

Jacob HIckman

Matt Holt - True freshman, seven solo tackles and an assist. NU's defensive player of the game.
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:yeah

 
SkullandBones said:
I've read alot of different threads since the game on Saturday and there seems to be alot of "if only Ganz had...." talk. Don't hang this one on Joe Ganz. 36 of 44, an 81% completion rate with 2 TDs. He's the reason we topped the second ranked offensive machine in the country. He made ONE, ONE mistake. I'd pin it on penalties way before I'd pin it on Ganz.

Game Balls:

Joe Ganz

Jacob HIckman

Matt Holt - True freshman, seven solo tackles and an assist. NU's defensive player of the game.
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:yeah

I'm sticking by what I've said on many of my posts since the game. Ganz didn't lose the game for us. Looking at the play again, I can't say he even really held on to the ball too long. He had to get outside the box, which he was doing, and got tackled from behind while trying to throw the ball. He had a great game, putting up his best completion stats, only to get marred by a tackle he didn't see coming.

 
My game balls go to:

Joe Ganz

Larry Asante

Marlon Lucky

I wish we could take care all of penalties that we get cuase they killed a couple of drives during the game

 
I don't blame this on Ganz at all, I think he had a great game. The penalties are killing us and as long as we continue to make mental errors we will pay the price.

 
You can praise him or blame him for this game all you want. Bottom line is without him at the helm we don't have a chance. He had a fantastic game and even though I was cussing him at the end of the game he was the reason we hung in there. Hell you could blame Smith for two offensive holding calls back to back and the end of the 4th quarter for allowing us to lose. That took us out of field goal range basically and if we make that we win the game. If we don't rush on TT's 35 yard line or so Crabtree doesn't run 60 some yards for the TD. There are so many things you could blame this loss on, but it's not going to make difference.

 
What killed us is the 4th down play, where Crabtree was left wide open for huge play!! I wonder if Murrillo was in awe of Crabtree when he ran right past him. "Look there goes Crabtree! Wow he is fast" <_< We hold them on that 4th down and we chew up a lot of the clock. Nuff said

 
holvy83 said:
What killed us is the 4th down play, where Crabtree was left wide open for huge play!! I wonder if Murrillo was in awe of Crabtree when he ran right past him. "Look there goes Crabtree! Wow he is fast" <_< We hold them on that 4th down and we chew up a lot of the clock. Nuff said
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Again...this was not The Armadillo's fault. He was supposed to have safety help, but never got it.

 
There's a lot of things that we could have done to win that game. I was saying when we were down by 7 that if we can go in and tie it up we need to go for two. I didn't think we could match them in OT so one chance for 3 yards and the win seemed like a good idea to me.

 
I completely agree that Joe had a great game and we would be even further down without his efforts. The only things that I see with him is he is a senior who threw three of the exact same interceptions in three different games. I hope he cleans that up as well as the dumbass penelties the rest of the team has racked up. I see good things coming yet this season.

 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
You can praise him or blame him for this game all you want. Bottom line is without him at the helm we don't have a chance. He had a fantastic game and even though I was cussing him at the end of the game he was the reason we hung in there. Hell you could blame Smith for two offensive holding calls back to back and the end of the 4th quarter for allowing us to lose. That took us out of field goal range basically and if we make that we win the game. If we don't rush on TT's 35 yard line or so Crabtree doesn't run 60 some yards for the TD. There are so many things you could blame this loss on, but it's not going to make difference.
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:yeah

You hit it right on BRI. No individual lost this game. There were a lot of minor mistakes all over on both sides of the ball that either cost us points or gave TT points. We correct those, next time we pull off a win.

 
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