If the offense were to change...

cmb23

cmb23

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Obviously everything is up in the air right now going into next season. However, as I look at what gains/losses the team has made offensively and looking at the rest of the nation right now I see what I (personally) would like.

No...I'm not pining for Eric Crouch or Tommie Frazier. However I think the day of the drop-back QB...at the college level...is no longer. I don't want 'The Option'...but give me a stud athlete at QB that can run, move, create and throw the ball a little.

Case in point. I watched the West Virginia and Lousiville game last night. Pat White. He did have a couple of costly turnovers. However when it came to crunch time, he wanted the ball in his hands. Running for first downs, throwing darts for quick outs, moving the chains and the clock. Capped it off with a 50-yard TD run that he looked like a video game player out there.

I know that a lot of these guys are needles in haystacks, but I think it is the way to go.

Pat White at WVU

Stephen McGee at A&M

Tim Tebow at Florida

Dennis Dixon at Oregon

Hell....even...

Colt McCoy at Texas

Chase Daniel at Missouri

They are all able to create and threaten a defense either way. Spread offense, West Coast offense, Option, Swerve or whatever you want to call the offense....give me a stud behind center and use ALL of his abilities.

 
cmb23 said:
Obviously everything is up in the air right now going into next season. However, as I look at what gains/losses the team has made offensively and looking at the rest of the nation right now I see what I (personally) would like.

No...I'm not pining for Eric Crouch or Tommie Frazier. However I think the day of the drop-back QB...at the college level...is no longer. I don't want 'The Option'...but give me a stud athlete at QB that can run, move, create and throw the ball a little.

Case in point. I watched the West Virginia and Lousiville game last night. Pat White. He did have a couple of costly turnovers. However when it came to crunch time, he wanted the ball in his hands. Running for first downs, throwing darts for quick outs, moving the chains and the clock. Capped it off with a 50-yard TD run that he looked like a video game player out there.

I know that a lot of these guys are needles in haystacks, but I think it is the way to go.

Pat White at WVU

Stephen McGee at A&M

Tim Tebow at Florida

Dennis Dixon at Oregon

Hell....even...

Colt McCoy at Texas

Chase Daniel at Missouri

They are all able to create and threaten a defense either way. Spread offense, West Coast offense, Option, Swerve or whatever you want to call the offense....give me a stud behind center and use ALL of his abilities.
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Of course!!

 
i agree to a point...definetly someone who can see an open space and get a crucial third down conversion here and there or escape ceertain trouble and make something positive.

but i really really don't want a guy who is in any way not a 'thrower' or 'pocket guy first' QB. i just think a great athelete in a passing system is not as effective in the LONG run as a guy who wants to pass first, then if only to create or escape can run if he has too. now, if we run a true 'multi threat' offense who doesn't rely on great effiency numbers, then a more agile QB, i don't mind.

Dixon and White, I wouldn't count on them to complete 5, 6, 9 passes in a row when we really need it. maybe the plays with their feet make up for it, but i like a composed strong QB when it really counts.

 
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All of the QB's you listed have coaches that recognize their ability and call plays to exploit it. Yes, even Fran.

 
See my thread about the spread offense. I watched that game last night too and it looked like WVU was playing smear the queer or something. Worst offense ever. Not even football.

 
I am not trying to debate what style of offense we should run, or fits our talent the best. All I am saying is I don't think it is the correct way to judge who will be a good coach.

 
I'll take a mobile QB with an accurate arm over an athlete QB. Feel the pressure in the pocket, move around & keep looking downfield, scramble for a first when needed. Not Zach Taylor mobile (if such a thing), but ............. Tony Romo type (as my example). Only runs when no one is open, and he usually finds someone downfield by creating space with his feet. I like the hybird selections CMB put out there. Although I dont think Stephen McGee or Pat White can do well if trailing by two scores & the running game is shut down. That's why I always prefer a QB that is more of a thrower than runner.

 
Pat White won the game for West Virginia last night . . . two minutes to go and the score was tied, he drops back to pass and nobody's open . . . so he takes off to run and ends up going 50 yards for a touchdown.

I wonder if we have a Tommie Frazier clone hiding somewhere.

 
I like the idea of having an athlete that can make plays, but I think the qb should be capable of dropping back and throwing when needed. Ganz showed that he has the ability to scramble when a play breaks down. I think if they rolled the pocket for him and gave him more run/pass options, he'd be a pretty good dual threat qb. The WCO could work with a guy like Ganz or Lee running it and some modified play calling to fit their skills.

 
Even Brohm had a couple of nice runs last night for Louisville. He still ended up negative in terms of rushing yardage, but that was because of some sacks.

 
I think Ganz is capable of a performance similar to the one White had last night, but with BC at the helm we'll never know. As soon as Ganz showed he was capable of it last week BC called plays to keep him in the pocket. BC is not going to let this team win unless it is his way.

 
I would have loved to have gotten a stud like this kid:

High School

Shattered school record for passing yards with 2,963 in just two seasons ... single-season passing record-holder (1,756) ... holds school record in all-purpose yards with 2,326 ... completed 52.7 percent of his passes for 1,756 yards and 17 passing touchdowns as a senior ... gained 517 yards on the ground and found the end zone nine times on 96 rushing attempts .

Kid is 6'2, 210 lbs...tough, fast and has a cannon for an arm. And a local kid tto boot! Seems his dad was a player for the Huskers way back when...this guy would have been a perfect candidate to get in there, grow with the system and lead this team for years to come....

Just wish we would have got him...

Oh wait! WE did!

You'll be adding the name Phillip Bates to your wish list before too long.

 
nope...because any kid who goes to ISU is not good enough to go to Nebraska. not a broad generalization...a fact.

hahaahahahaha

 
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