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[jmfb]

I know more football than you think I do. Maybe Nebraska needs an extra large defensive tackle to help stuff the run. I think I may be over looking that. Something is causing those runs up to middle to happen without the running backs ever being touched. That early 1st quarter touchdown run up the middle against South Dakota State was awful play by the defensive line and supporting linebackers.

Nebraska needs a defensive tackle that weighs about 350 pounds to assist in shutting down the run. Alabama's Terrence Cody (6-4, 350) and Georgia's Kwame Geathers (6-6, 345) and John Jenkins (6-4, 355) are a few to mention. But you have to recruit those run-stopper D-linemen.

If the new Nebraska defense grows up, stops committing penalties at bad times (i.e. - UCLA game - 9/14), and does a better job of tackling---then everything comes together. I think the athletes coach Bo Pelini has put out there are of tremendous quality, but it may very well be a last-ditch effort to save his job. Those are athletes I see out there on defense for Nebraska. Coach Pelini coached at LSU, so he knows athletes. Again, he's trying to save his job.

The last three quarters of the South Dakota State game had that defense looking pretty stout. I'm just saying it won't surprise me at all if the Nebraska defense begins to stiffen on opposing offenses in the upcoming weeks.

Them being able to gash us with the inside zone had nothing to do with out DTs not being big enough. It had everything to do with us only having 5 f'ing guys in the box to their five OL!!!!!!!!!

When you have someone like Suh, Crick or Dorsey, the combo on the DT- against those kinds of guys, one of the o-linemen cant come off that as quickly and climb to the second level. The issue is NU doesnt always have guys like Suh, Crick or Dorsey

 

[Hunter94]

just get a W against lowly Illinois....that is how fare we have fallen.

 

[EZ-E]

I know more football than you think I do. Maybe Nebraska needs an extra large defensive tackle to help stuff the run. I think I may be over looking that. Something is causing those runs up to middle to happen without the running backs ever being touched. That early 1st quarter touchdown run up the middle against South Dakota State was awful play by the defensive line and supporting linebackers.

Nebraska needs a defensive tackle that weighs about 350 pounds to assist in shutting down the run. Alabama's Terrence Cody (6-4, 350) and Georgia's Kwame Geathers (6-6, 345) and John Jenkins (6-4, 355) are a few to mention. But you have to recruit those run-stopper D-linemen.

If the new Nebraska defense grows up, stops committing penalties at bad times (i.e. - UCLA game - 9/14), and does a better job of tackling---then everything comes together. I think the athletes coach Bo Pelini has put out there are of tremendous quality, but it may very well be a last-ditch effort to save his job. Those are athletes I see out there on defense for Nebraska. Coach Pelini coached at LSU, so he knows athletes. Again, he's trying to save his job.

The last three quarters of the South Dakota State game had that defense looking pretty stout. I'm just saying it won't surprise me at all if the Nebraska defense begins to stiffen on opposing offenses in the upcoming weeks.

Them being able to gash us with the inside zone had nothing to do with out DTs not being big enough. It had everything to do with us only having 5 f'ing guys in the box to their five OL!!!!!!!!!

When you have someone like Suh, Crick or Dosey, the combo on the DT- against those kinds of guys, one of the o-linemen cant come off that as quickly and climb to the second level. The issue is NU doesnt always have guys like Suh, Crick or Dorsey

I do believe VV will be one of those guys and he requires a double team quite a bit. But when running the zone read you and I both know that one DE is basically irrelevant as well because he gets optioned off. So you are almost playing 5 on 4. So they can still double team a DT and go hat on a hat. I was absolutely flabbergasted at how we refused to creep our safeties up until midway through the second quarter.

 

[skersfan]

So your saying that Bo's defense will not work without an all world type DT in a way. I was not that impressed when Crick was the responsible one, but I know he was injured. It seems if we have to have that type of athlete and we can not seem to recruit them, we need to change the scheme.

 

[True2tRA]

So your saying that Bo's defense will not work without an all world type DT in a way. I was not that impressed when Crick was the responsible one, but I know he was injured. It seems if we have to have that type of athlete and we can not seem to recruit them, we need to change the scheme.

Nobody.....I repeat nobody will ever convince me otherwise. The scheme is flawed. Period. In more ways than one but especially the way we utilize the front four.

This makes it difficult for me to get too "up" about wins. I feel like no matter how good we can look at times, I know, and fully expect this scheme to be exposed by more athletic teams at least 2-3 times a year. And usually when it is exposed, it is exposed badly.

Is Illinois talented enough to expose it? I think they are. That team is coming into their own and much like us has shown flashes of being a better team than people think at times. Of course they are capable of not looking so good as well.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

I know more football than you think I do. Maybe Nebraska needs an extra large defensive tackle to help stuff the run. I think I may be over looking that. Something is causing those runs up to middle to happen without the running backs ever being touched. That early 1st quarter touchdown run up the middle against South Dakota State was awful play by the defensive line and supporting linebackers.

Nebraska needs a defensive tackle that weighs about 350 pounds to assist in shutting down the run. Alabama's Terrence Cody (6-4, 350) and Georgia's Kwame Geathers (6-6, 345) and John Jenkins (6-4, 355) are a few to mention. But you have to recruit those run-stopper D-linemen.

If the new Nebraska defense grows up, stops committing penalties at bad times (i.e. - UCLA game - 9/14), and does a better job of tackling---then everything comes together. I think the athletes coach Bo Pelini has put out there are of tremendous quality, but it may very well be a last-ditch effort to save his job. Those are athletes I see out there on defense for Nebraska. Coach Pelini coached at LSU, so he knows athletes. Again, he's trying to save his job.

The last three quarters of the South Dakota State game had that defense looking pretty stout. I'm just saying it won't surprise me at all if the Nebraska defense begins to stiffen on opposing offenses in the upcoming weeks.

Them being able to gash us with the inside zone had nothing to do with out DTs not being big enough. It had everything to do with us only having 5 f'ing guys in the box to their five OL!!!!!!!!!

You can't constantly win a 5-5 match unless you have superior athletes at each match up. While I do think it would help if we had a couple of bigger DTs, I think that we also need to put more players in the box whenever we feel like our opponent is going to go inside.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

So your saying that Bo's defense will not work without an all world type DT in a way. I was not that impressed when Crick was the responsible one, but I know he was injured. It seems if we have to have that type of athlete and we can not seem to recruit them, we need to change the scheme.

Nobody.....I repeat nobody will ever convince me otherwise. The scheme is flawed. Period. In more ways than one but especially the way we utilize the front four.

This makes it difficult for me to get too "up" about wins. I feel like no matter how good we can look at times, I know, and fully expect this scheme to be exposed by more athletic teams at least 2-3 times a year. And usually when it is exposed, it is exposed badly.

Is Illinois talented enough to expose it? I think they are. That team is coming into their own and much like us has shown flashes of being a better team than people think at times. Of course they are capable of not looking so good as well.

Isn't it the case that more athletic teams will expose any scheme?

The thing that is tough when discussing a scheme is that we don't know what the play call was for any play. So we can't make an accurate judgment as to whether Thad Randle was told to play patty cake, or if he just isn't good enough to push the pocket like he was told to do.

Same thing goes for every other position.

It's a two-way street guys. Sometimes it's the scheme, sometimes it's the players, but we don't know when it was the scheme nor do we know when it was the players.

 

[True2tRA]

I don't like patty cake whether its a called patty cake or not.

I like aggressive defense not bend don't break. Fuxk bend don't break, I like break yo neck defense.

 

[True2tRA]

BBB12. I'm not just basing my opinion off zero evidence or anything. I've watched it for years now. I've listened to Bos philosophy and the way he approaches defense and I don't like it. I have heard plenty that I have gained an understanding of his beliefs, and me and him......we disagree.

 

[True2tRA]

I think we can just agree that we just don't agree at this point can't we. I mean, clearly there are people that fall in line with me, and there are the crazy a$$ people that fall in line with you. We've known this for quite some time and I don't think there is any converting of beliefs going on here, and that is okay.

 

[jmfb]

Them being able to gash us with the inside zone had nothing to do with out DTs not being big enough. It had everything to do with us only having 5 f'ing guys in the box to their five OL!!!!!!!!!

When you have someone like Suh, Crick or Dosey, the combo on the DT- against those kinds of guys, one of the o-linemen cant come off that as quickly and climb to the second level. The issue is NU doesnt always have guys like Suh, Crick or Dorsey

I do believe VV will be one of those guys and he requires a double team quite a bit. But when running the zone read you and I both know that one DE is basically irrelevant as well because he gets optioned off. So you are almost playing 5 on 4. So they can still double team a DT and go hat on a hat. I was absolutely flabbergasted at how we refused to creep our safeties up until midway through the second quarter.

I was speaking of Inside Zone and when 1 of the LBs gets run out of the play on coverage requirement- motion etc

 

[Mavric]

I was speaking of Inside Zone and when 1 of the LBs gets run out of the play on coverage requirement- motion etc

I think we have our scheme adjusted so this doesn't happen. Wyoming killed us for the first two or three possessions then we changed it. I don't think Banderas was supposed to run out to coverage against SDSU and that's (part of?) the reason he got benched.

 

[True2tRA]

Losing a game and being exposed are two different things BTW. More athletic teams can beat you, but when you allow 600 plus yards in multiple games, including those lesser talented opponents, while allowing 63 and 70 points....that is being exposed.

 

[admo]

What's weird is how many different ways we allow a lot of yards on defense. A RB getting nearly 200 yards by halftime. The UCLA QB standing tall in the pocket and finding open receivers. The WYO QB that ran a 45 yard draw/sneak up the middle, his scrambling, his quick 8-10 yard passes in the middle of the field. And most teams like passes to the flats. I don't think we give up the deep ball which is nice, but everything underneath has a pretty good success rate for our opponents. Whether they run it or throw it. I just hope this defensive strategy and the play on the field improves.

 

[EZ-E]

Them being able to gash us with the inside zone had nothing to do with out DTs not being big enough. It had everything to do with us only having 5 f'ing guys in the box to their five OL!!!!!!!!!

When you have someone like Suh, Crick or Dosey, the combo on the DT- against those kinds of guys, one of the o-linemen cant come off that as quickly and climb to the second level. The issue is NU doesnt always have guys like Suh, Crick or Dorsey

I do believe VV will be one of those guys and he requires a double team quite a bit. But when running the zone read you and I both know that one DE is basically irrelevant as well because he gets optioned off. So you are almost playing 5 on 4. So they can still double team a DT and go hat on a hat. I was absolutely flabbergasted at how we refused to creep our safeties up until midway through the second quarter.

I was speaking of Inside Zone and when 1 of the LBs gets run out of the play on coverage requirement- motion etc

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