Injuries and Expectations

[BigRedBuster]

Let me ask the people who claim that injuries shouldn't affect expectations. So...you are saying that there is absolutely no level of injuries on a team that could prevent the coach from winning a championship?

What level of injuries are acceptable? Zero, one, two? How many before we should start lining up the excuses and lowering expectations? Florida State loses Winston and I can see tempering the repeat expectations - but I bet that fan base would still be planning trips for the playoffs. Rose + Jackson < Winston (by a long shot). Our expectations have always been B1G championship. That isn't going to be lowered by the loss of a couple 2nd stringers and the 4th best RB.

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

 

[papersun87]

4 losses as par...now, maybe 5...we attend a bowl no one cares about...Bo keeps his job. repeat cycle

I mean it's sad, but 3 or 4 years ago I would have gone off on you for this quote, but now I find myself agreeing. I see zero data that suggests otherwise. I'm not trying to be pessimistic or anything, I'm just as excited for the season to start as anyone here, but we kind of know what to expect, and looking at this team, I don't see anything dramatically different than the past several years that would make me think we will make any great jump (or fall). I'm basically hoping for good variance at this point - bink a 30/70 game that we shouldn't win, get some lucky bounces, find ourselves in the B1GCCG within striking distance at halftime. That's my best-case scenario.

The State of Nebraska Football, late summer 2014.

 

[kchusker_chris]

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

not to call anyone out....but....

Huskers5x, Dr. Strangelove, deedsker, SeaOfRed402, Marf, Atbone95, Huskerzoo,Huskerhawg, Excel, BIGREDIOWAN, LukeinNE, Husker from Kansas, man eating mastodon, 4skers89

and to a large extent....

papersun87, Haspula, Jason Sitoke, wiby_NU, Creighton Duke, dudeguyy, Husker Richard, huskerjack23, kozzman555, TGHusker

....when they determined that the loss of a couple guys that haven't yet, nor were likely to start, a 4th string RB, and a guy playing our deepest position on D "measurably (meaning additional losses) lowered their expectations"

Unless of course the above posters had expectations of a National Championship and/or a playoff birth. In which case I'd understand the lowered expectations, but also consider them a little cray cray.

 

[BigRedBuster]

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

not to call anyone out....but....

Huskers5x, Dr. Strangelove, deedsker, SeaOfRed402, Marf, Atbone95, Huskerzoo,Huskerhawg, Excel, BIGREDIOWAN, LukeinNE, Husker from Kansas, man eating mastodon, 4skers89

and to a large extent....

papersun87, Haspula, Jason Sitoke, wiby_NU, Creighton Duke, dudeguyy, Husker Richard, huskerjack23, kozzman555, TGHusker

....when they determined that the loss of a couple guys that haven't yet, nor were likely to start, a 4th string RB, and a guy playing our deepest position on D "measurably (meaning additional losses) lowered their expectations"

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

 

[kchusker_chris]

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

hy·per·bo·le

 

[BigRedBuster]

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

hy·per·bo·le

So....let me get this straight.

You made a statement. I simply asked who was the statement about and you listed names.

THEN, when I said that I doubted that to be true, you claim your statement wasn't really to be taken serious?

 

[NUpolo8]

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

hy·per·bo·le

So....let me get this straight.
You made a statement. I simply asked who was the statement about and you listed names.

THEN, when I said that I doubted that to be true, you claim your statement wasn't really to be taken serious?

Come on, because they didn't actually say they were going to jump off a cliff, therefore no one is resigning their hopes for they year because of a few injuries?

 

[BigRedBuster]

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

hy·per·bo·le

So....let me get this straight.
You made a statement. I simply asked who was the statement about and you listed names.

THEN, when I said that I doubted that to be true, you claim your statement wasn't really to be taken serious?

Come on, because they didn't actually say they were going to jump off a cliff, therefore no one is resigning their hopes for they year because of a few injuries?

Again, I will let the people listed answer for themselves. But, I don't know of any fan who is "packing it in until 2015" due to these injuries or even jumping off the proverbial cliff as a fan. I think there are a few fans on here who are over exaggerating the feelings that some fans have that certain injuries may cause an additional loss or make it harder to win a game here and there.

 

[kchusker_chris]

Hmmm...well, I guess I will have to let them answer for themselves.

But, I would guess that most of them would not classify their attitudes as..."jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015"

hy·per·bo·le

So....let me get this straight.

I don't think you got it straight...but carry on...

 

[papersun87]

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

not to call anyone out....but....

Huskers5x, Dr. Strangelove, deedsker, SeaOfRed402, Marf, Atbone95, Huskerzoo,Huskerhawg, Excel, BIGREDIOWAN, LukeinNE, Husker from Kansas, man eating mastodon, 4skers89

and to a large extent....

papersun87, Haspula, Jason Sitoke, wiby_NU, Creighton Duke, dudeguyy, Husker Richard, huskerjack23, kozzman555, TGHusker

....when they determined that the loss of a couple guys that haven't yet, nor were likely to start, a 4th string RB, and a guy playing our deepest position on D "measurably (meaning additional losses) lowered their expectations"

Unless of course the above posters had expectations of a National Championship and/or a playoff birth. In which case I'd understand the lowered expectations, but also consider them a little cray cray.

I'll bite. I probably shouldn't have answered that poll question the way that I did, because my expectations are (and will be forevermore until Bo gives me some reason to change them) that we will:

a) finish 9-4

b) play a bunch of sloppy games against teams that anyone else with a comparable talent level would beat by 20

c) lose to some team we have no business losing to

d) lose to (and probably get blown out by) anyone equal to or better than us on the schedule, namely Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

so really, I guess the injuries don't change that. but seeing as how my expectations were incredibly low to begin with, I'm not sure that's saying much.

 

[Hunter94]

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

not to call anyone out....but....

Huskers5x, Dr. Strangelove, deedsker, SeaOfRed402, Marf, Atbone95, Huskerzoo,Huskerhawg, Excel, BIGREDIOWAN, LukeinNE, Husker from Kansas, man eating mastodon, 4skers89

and to a large extent....

papersun87, Haspula, Jason Sitoke, wiby_NU, Creighton Duke, dudeguyy, Husker Richard, huskerjack23, kozzman555, TGHusker

....when they determined that the loss of a couple guys that haven't yet, nor were likely to start, a 4th string RB, and a guy playing our deepest position on D "measurably (meaning additional losses) lowered their expectations"

Unless of course the above posters had expectations of a National Championship and/or a playoff birth. In which case I'd understand the lowered expectations, but also consider them a little cray cray.

I'll bite. I probably shouldn't have answered that poll question the way that I did, because my expectations are (and will be forevermore until Bo gives me some reason to change them) that we will:

a) finish 9-4

b) play a bunch of sloppy games against teams that anyone else with a comparable talent level would beat by 20

c) lose to some team we have no business losing to

d) lose to (and probably get blown out by) anyone equal to or better than us on the schedule, namely Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

so really, I guess the injuries don't change that. but seeing as how my expectations were incredibly low to begin with, I'm not sure that's saying much.

9-4 is the new standard, anything over and above that is progress.......right?

 

[StPaulHusker]

There are injuries every season, for every team. We're going to have more than this, I will 100% guarantee it. So why does everyone jump off a ledge when they start to occur - packing it in looking to 2015 (where we'll again have injuries)? There are a lot of uncertainties in football. The coaching staff is paid 6 million a year to adapt to the changing landscape. We have 120+ kids on the roster so we can make those adjustments and find the best 22. If an injury or two sinks a season where we've already built in a couple losses as a best case scenario - 3 weeks before the first game - then the 120+ isn't adequate, or the staffs' ability to adjust isn't adequate.

Who is doing this?

not to call anyone out....but....

Huskers5x, Dr. Strangelove, deedsker, SeaOfRed402, Marf, Atbone95, Huskerzoo,Huskerhawg, Excel, BIGREDIOWAN, LukeinNE, Husker from Kansas, man eating mastodon, 4skers89

and to a large extent....

papersun87, Haspula, Jason Sitoke, wiby_NU, Creighton Duke, dudeguyy, Husker Richard, huskerjack23, kozzman555, TGHusker

....when they determined that the loss of a couple guys that haven't yet, nor were likely to start, a 4th string RB, and a guy playing our deepest position on D "measurably (meaning additional losses) lowered their expectations"

Unless of course the above posters had expectations of a National Championship and/or a playoff birth. In which case I'd understand the lowered expectations, but also consider them a little cray cray.

I'll bite. I probably shouldn't have answered that poll question the way that I did, because my expectations are (and will be forevermore until Bo gives me some reason to change them) that we will:

a) finish 9-4

b) play a bunch of sloppy games against teams that anyone else with a comparable talent level would beat by 20

c) lose to some team we have no business losing to

d) lose to (and probably get blown out by) anyone equal to or better than us on the schedule, namely Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

so really, I guess the injuries don't change that. but seeing as how my expectations were incredibly low to begin with, I'm not sure that's saying much.

9-4 is the new standard, anything over and above that is progress.......right?

What would you call it?

 

[kchusker_chris]

I'll bite. I probably shouldn't have answered that poll question the way that I did, because my expectations are (and will be forevermore until Bo gives me some reason to change them) that we will:

a) finish 9-4

b) play a bunch of sloppy games against teams that anyone else with a comparable talent level would beat by 20

c) lose to some team we have no business losing to

d) lose to (and probably get blown out by) anyone equal to or better than us on the schedule, namely Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

so really, I guess the injuries don't change that. but seeing as how my expectations were incredibly low to begin with, I'm not sure that's saying much.

This is where I expect them to finish too. Those are my "expectations". They've been lowered (long before these injuries), as I now expect them to finish with 4 losses most years.

Now, where do I think they "should" finish, in year 7 with the talent, resources, schedule, etc? I think a 2-3 loss season is where we, as Husker fans...should be able to reasonably expect them to finish.

 

[StPaulHusker]

I expect them to make the B1G title game this year with either 0 losses or 1 loss.

Wisconsin is overrated...BIGTIME. They will continue to be this way all year long because of the weak schedule.

Iowa should make a good run but....they're Iowa and will lose to a team they have no business losing to.

Northwestern will be average this year in my opinion and take a step back on defense.

2 out of these 3 examples could be Nebraska

 

[TAKODA]

Nebraska = #BoxofChocolates!