Injury updates

[Saunders]

I would have gone wildcat the whole game or had Fyfe in the shotgun or pistol. No way in hell would I have had TA risk further injury by trying to play on a torn hammy. Not only further injury to the hamstring, but being on the field and physically unable to move to avoid contact and/or protect himself. Now maybe it was a strain and he tore it against Iowa..... Thats a possibility.

It just goes to show the dismal depth that this program is in across the board...... Not blaming Riley, nor attacking Bo. Its a simple fact that were are currently woefully prepared to replace any injured players in some positions, QB the most glaring.....

So fo all intensive purposes, our plan this year was to carry 2 QB's....TA and Fyfe. No real thought or plan if Fyfe went down earlier in the year? Just asking. Was th plan if Fyfe goes out prior to week "X", we burn the shirt. After that, we just lose?

Again, I'd be getting Darlington ready to start.

It's not any coaches fault for the QB "depth." Outside OSU in 14, what team in the last 10-15 years has had it's top 2 QB's hurt and had the 3rd guy step in and be good enough?

Guys that are good don't stick around to ride the bench. Nobody carries 3 good QB's.

 

[TonyStalloni]

I'd be repping Darlington for this game. The QB whisperer has a month to get him ready. Fyfe can be his back up. Bad times when we have no one capable of taking a snap.....If TA has torn hammy and still played, that was an incredibly poor decision IMO.

Im interested in knowing, with 4 days to prepare for the Iowa game, TA has a torn Hammy and all of a sudden Fyfe can't take a ball from center.....who do you think should have played QB with a realistic chance to actually be ready to run an offense?

I'd be repping Darlington for this game. The QB whisperer has a month to get him ready. Fyfe can be his back up. Bad times when we have no one capable of taking a snap.....If TA has torn hammy and still played, that was an incredibly poor decision IMO.

Im interested in knowing, with 4 days to prepare for the Iowa game, TA has a torn Hammy and all of a sudden Fyfe can't take a ball from center.....who do you think should have played QB with a realistic chance to actually be ready to run an offense?

If the main problem was taking snaps from under center - which has mainly been what was stated - they could always ... you know ... not take snaps from under center.

I would have gone wildcat the whole game or had Fyfe in the shotgun or pistol. No way in hell would I have had TA risk further injury by trying to play on a torn hammy. Not only further injury to the hamstring, but being on the field and physically unable to move to avoid contact and/or protect himself. Now maybe it was a strain and he tore it against Iowa..... Thats a possibility.
It just goes to show the dismal depth that this program is in across the board...... Not blaming Riley, nor attacking Bo. Its a simple fact that were are currently woefully prepared to replace any injured players in some positions, QB the most glaring.....

So fo all intensive purposes, our plan this year was to carry 2 QB's....TA and Fyfe. No real thought or plan if Fyfe went down earlier in the year? Just asking. Was th plan if Fyfe goes out prior to week "X", we burn the shirt. After that, we just lose?

Again, I'd be getting Darlington ready to start.

I am sure that AJ Bush transferring in mid-August didn't exactly help matters. It didn't exactly give them a ton of time to figure out another option before the season. I think that is prime reason number one they want a walk on qb for depth.

I saw Langs comments about wanting a walk-on in 2017 to add depth as "3" is thin at that the QB spot. Yet as you mentioned, AJ left in camp. Doesn't really appear we had a plan to truly get a #3 ready IMO. Was POB that far back? Is Darlington that at risk for another concussion? Was recruiting really that crappy under Bo at the QB spot?

As injuries have shown some glaring holes, I am unsure how long it will take to get NU "back". I am guessing several more years minimum under Riley. Honestly, it would probably take several years under any coach. Even a "splash" hire....... We just appear to be a little thin in the Jimmy and Joe department. Unless we overseeing like Bama, it will be hard to get the numbers up in a class or two....

As we are very thin on the O line that never bodes well for QB health. Bo and staff recruited what appeared on paper to be some decent QB's but they didn't pan out for whatever reason and like Bush decided to transfer. I'm sure our coaches hoped TA and Ryker would stay healthy so they could redshirt PO.

 

[ScottyIce]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

 

[BigRedBuster]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

They should have gotten a QB that fit their "system" in 2015. They had 2 months to bring in a guy, and completely ignored recruiting a QB in that cycle.

 

[ScottyIce]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

 

[ScottyIce]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

They should have gotten a QB that fit their "system" in 2015. They had 2 months to bring in a guy, and completely ignored recruiting a QB in that cycle.

They tried to flip Joe Burrow.

 

[84HuskerLaw]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

They should have gotten a QB that fit their "system" in 2015. They had 2 months to bring in a guy, and completely ignored recruiting a QB in that cycle.

Not defending Riley not finding somebody in his first 'short' class but we certainly couldn't afford to award yet another 4 year scholarship (we only get 85) for another 5th string bench rider. If they could find one, I am confident they would have liked to grab one. I suppose they also had no real evidence of how 'bare' the QB cupboard actually was seeing as how very few of our QBs on the team had any college game film to look at and had to go on some high school tapes and presumably internal reports from the athletic department staff that remained. Who knows how reliable that actually was at the time, considering all the controversy. And they came into a volatile and sticky situation and could not afford to alienate the entire team without giving existing guys a reasonable chance to prove their worth.

But, again, the QB spot is an absolute MUST HAVE position. You have to keep shopping until you get enough to build a team around. Fundamental.

 

[BigRedBuster]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

They should have gotten a QB that fit their "system" in 2015. They had 2 months to bring in a guy, and completely ignored recruiting a QB in that cycle.

They tried to flip Joe Burrow.

In other words....

They didn't just "ignore" recruiting a QB. It's pretty dang difficult to get a decent QB to commit to you 2 months on the job.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

If Armstrong played through a torn hamstring, I don't feel quite as bad about losing 40-10 to Iowa.

Honestly, it just shows that we really needed to get a QB in the 2016 cycle, even if Bush stayed, we would've been in trouble because he wasn't very good.

We did get one in 2016.

Maybe you are thinking of 2015.

They should have gotten a QB that fit their "system" in 2015. They had 2 months to bring in a guy, and completely ignored recruiting a QB in that cycle.

They tried to flip Joe Burrow.

In other words....

They didn't just "ignore" recruiting a QB. It's pretty dang difficult to get a decent QB to commit to you 2 months on the job.

I keep hearing that, but there wasn't one or two guys that they had been recruiting to Oregon State that were still on their radar? Even if the kid was lower graded, it would have been another body that would have fit their system better than what was on the roster at the time.

I understand they tried to flip Burrow, but that was going to be a tough task. I am just saying they should have had a plan B or C.

 

[BigRedBuster]

And, you know they didn't attempt a plan B or C how?

 

[ColoradoHusk]

And, you know they didn't attempt a plan B or C how?

You're right, I technically don't know if they didn't attempt a plan B or C, but by not signing any QB in that class, the coaches failed.

 

[BigRedBuster]

And, you know they didn't attempt a plan B or C how?

You're right, I technically don't know if they didn't attempt a plan B or C, but by not signing any QB in that class, the coaches failed.

OK..go ahead and crucify them for failing to sign a great class with two months to do it. (which you admitted you really don't know what transpired during that time)

I'll enjoy concentrating on the 22 months since where they have signed what appears to be three very capable QBs (assuming Gebbia signs).

 

[ColoradoHusk]

And, you know they didn't attempt a plan B or C how?

You're right, I technically don't know if they didn't attempt a plan B or C, but by not signing any QB in that class, the coaches failed.

OK..go ahead and crucify them for failing to sign a great class with two months to do it. (which you admitted you really don't know what transpired during that time)

I'll enjoy concentrating on the 22 months since where they have signed what appears to be three very capable QBs (assuming Gebbia signs).

And you go ahead and make it seem like Riley and his staff can do no wrong and they don't deserve to be criticized over anything.

The thing that has annoyed me about Riley is that he is taking a very "long-game" approach with the program. I understand the reasoning behind this philosophy and sometimes there no quick fixes. But that philosophy delivered an awful 2015 season, and a 2016 season which was no better than the "down years" of his predecessor.

 

[BigRedBuster]

And, you know they didn't attempt a plan B or C how?

You're right, I technically don't know if they didn't attempt a plan B or C, but by not signing any QB in that class, the coaches failed.

OK..go ahead and crucify them for failing to sign a great class with two months to do it. (which you admitted you really don't know what transpired during that time)

I'll enjoy concentrating on the 22 months since where they have signed what appears to be three very capable QBs (assuming Gebbia signs).

And you go ahead and make it seem like Riley and his staff can do no wrong and they don't deserve to be criticized over anything.

The thing that has annoyed me about Riley is that he is taking a very "long-game" approach with the program. I understand the reasoning behind this philosophy and sometimes there no quick fixes. But that philosophy delivered an awful 2015 season, and a 2016 season which was no better than the "down years" of his predecessor.

Who is saying the bolded?