knapplc
International Man of Mystery
If you're going to remove Texas from the conversation you can remove Penn State as well, since they've only been part of the Big 10 two years longer than Texas was part of the Big 12. So you have Ohio State and Michigan, and a bunch of perennially mediocre teams. How does that make your conference tougher than ours, again? Let's break this down, and we'll do it your way:
Let's compare Nebraska's and Iowa's opponents over the last century or so. Using only the old Big 8 schools (so no Texas, A&M, Baylor or Tech) and removing Penn State, each conference looks like this:
Big 10
Michigan
Ohio State
Minnesota
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern
Indiana
Big 8
Oklahoma
Colorado
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Kansas State
All time, the teams in the Big 10 list average 621 wins, 461 losses. The teams in the Big 8 list average 584 wins, 497 losses. The teams in the Big 10 list have played football for an average of 119 years; the teams in the Big 8 list have played for an average of 114 years.
Simple math tells you that teams in the Big 10 list average, all time, 5.21 wins per year and 3.87 losses. Teams in the Big 8 list average 5.13 wins per year and 4.36 losses. This is a nearly identical conference SOS for Iowa & Nebraska over the last century, give or take a decade.
Taking into consideration the teams we were playing doesn't really bolster your argument now, does it?
Now, you want to talk about Nebraska's individual records against teams like Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St, let's do that, too.
Illinois - Nebraska leads the series 7-2-1. The Illini last beat Nebraska in 1924. Nebraska has won the last two meetings by an average score of 56-20. Mr. Mack clearly needs to do better research, but whatever.
Indiana - Indiana leads the series 9-7-3. Nebraska has won the last four meetings by an average score of 48-11. Indiana has not beaten Nebraska since 1959.
Michigan - Michigan leads the series 3-2-1. Nebraska beat Michigan in their most recent meeting, the 2005 Alamo Bowl.
Ohio State - OSU leads the series 2-0 (games played in '55 & '56)
Penn State - PSU leads the series 7-6. Nebraska beat Penn State in their most recent meeting in 2003. Penn State has won three of the last five dating back to 1981, with the 1982 game being won by Penn State on two of the most egregiously blown calls in the history of college sports, all within the last 90 seconds of the game, one of which was the game-winning TD (which clearly hit the turf), the other of which was a "catch" that set up the TD-scoring play, where the receiver admitted he caught the ball two yards out of bounds.
No matter how you slice it, Nebraska has had nearly equal conference opponents to Iowa, but we have 230 more wins and five National Championships to Iowa's zero.
Who's talking out of their azzes again?
Let's compare Nebraska's and Iowa's opponents over the last century or so. Using only the old Big 8 schools (so no Texas, A&M, Baylor or Tech) and removing Penn State, each conference looks like this:
Big 10
Michigan
Ohio State
Minnesota
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern
Indiana
Big 8
Oklahoma
Colorado
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Kansas State
All time, the teams in the Big 10 list average 621 wins, 461 losses. The teams in the Big 8 list average 584 wins, 497 losses. The teams in the Big 10 list have played football for an average of 119 years; the teams in the Big 8 list have played for an average of 114 years.
Simple math tells you that teams in the Big 10 list average, all time, 5.21 wins per year and 3.87 losses. Teams in the Big 8 list average 5.13 wins per year and 4.36 losses. This is a nearly identical conference SOS for Iowa & Nebraska over the last century, give or take a decade.
Taking into consideration the teams we were playing doesn't really bolster your argument now, does it?
Now, you want to talk about Nebraska's individual records against teams like Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St, let's do that, too.
Illinois - Nebraska leads the series 7-2-1. The Illini last beat Nebraska in 1924. Nebraska has won the last two meetings by an average score of 56-20. Mr. Mack clearly needs to do better research, but whatever.
Indiana - Indiana leads the series 9-7-3. Nebraska has won the last four meetings by an average score of 48-11. Indiana has not beaten Nebraska since 1959.
Michigan - Michigan leads the series 3-2-1. Nebraska beat Michigan in their most recent meeting, the 2005 Alamo Bowl.
Ohio State - OSU leads the series 2-0 (games played in '55 & '56)
Penn State - PSU leads the series 7-6. Nebraska beat Penn State in their most recent meeting in 2003. Penn State has won three of the last five dating back to 1981, with the 1982 game being won by Penn State on two of the most egregiously blown calls in the history of college sports, all within the last 90 seconds of the game, one of which was the game-winning TD (which clearly hit the turf), the other of which was a "catch" that set up the TD-scoring play, where the receiver admitted he caught the ball two yards out of bounds.
No matter how you slice it, Nebraska has had nearly equal conference opponents to Iowa, but we have 230 more wins and five National Championships to Iowa's zero.
Who's talking out of their azzes again?