Husker_x - You're pissing people off because you're forcing people with faith to justify it, when there is no way for them to give you the type of logical answer you're seeking. Faith isn't logical. You know that you can win this argument every time (in your own eyes). Also, while I don't think you're bashing Christianity, you are doing a good job of trying to undermine it which usually makes people uneasy.
In response to the original topic question - Faith cannot be either moral or immoral, because morality is subjective.
Just my opinion, of course.
Where's my eye roll emoticon?
I will say this in Husker_x's defense; there is no reason for anyone to get pissed off because he is stating his opinions or trying to have an open forum about religion. Although, I don't believe talking about religion will ever solve anything, he's well within his rights to attempt it, and I see no reason anyone should become offended for any reason. I've also never seen any reason why trying to undermine Christianity should make Christians feel uncomfortable. The only reason I can think of that anyone should feel uncomfortable is because there was some of that there to begin with. I used to feel uncomfortable when someone questioned something I believed in. I think all that stopped when I was like 12. I don't believe faith is immoral, but why can't Husker_x have an open forum to discuss it without people jumping all over him without actually discussing what he posted?
For Knap and SOCAl, I've only had the Jehovah's witnesses come up to my door once, too. I listened to everything they had to say, and took their pamphlets. I didn't feel uncomfortable or any other emotion.
I have to admit a failure in my original post, and that is that I didn't broaden the word 'faith' to include nearly as much as I perceive it to include. Meaning alien abductions, Santa Clause, crystal healing, Bigfoot, alternative 'medicine', or any number of woo woo topics which people subject themselves and others to under the most threadbare evidence or in total absence of it. Christian Scientists (not scientists who happen to be Christians) have been known to let their children die of easily treatable conditions because they think seeing a doctor violates the will of God.
Since I wrote the OP very quickly it didn't even occur to me to make that obvious, and since my own experiences of faith are limited to religion, two separate but related arguments get joined. Which would the explain the reactionary
ad hominem about my motives and the trivial spat that followed.
I don't have much against Christianity per se, with the exception of certain anti-science stances and wasteful uses of money to fund plush evangelical empires masquerading as churches––I think even most Christians agree with me that starving people come before the third floor coffee bar. I won't apologize for and can't help if people feel uneasy about their faith or having it 'undermined'. As a Christian I had my beliefs challenged all the time and I welcomed it, even if it was hard. People unwilling or not ready to have that happen would do well to stay away from these arguments.
