El Diaco said:
Well that's why everyone gets to have their own opinion. You don't seem to like it when people disagree with yours. I agree with Enhanced and knapp on this one. I do not view Iowa as any kind of rival. Sure, lately we've struggled with them on the field and I hate losing to them but the same can be said for many other teams. Animosity towards a fanbase doesn't make it a rivalry. IMO there have to be some games of significance involved before any serious rivalry talk should ensue. That just hasn't been the case in this series.
If you want to consider Iowa as our rival, good for you, enjoy it. Don't demand that everyone else needs to feel the same way.
Yeah. no one is forcing anyone to do anything with regards to their feelings towards another team. So i think you can relax.
But animosity towards a fanbase definitely factors into a rivalry
I'm perfectly relaxed. I'm not the one telling other people they are wrong and claiming as fact that Iowa is a rival. The poll results (17 yes & 25 no) should be enough to indicate that not everyone agrees with your assessment.
StPaulHusker said:
This is exactly what I would expect someone to say about a team that has been kicking our a$$ in just about everything the last couple of years.
StPaulHusker said:
And you were wrong then and are wrong now.
Except for the manufactured trophy part
StPaulHusker said:
You're wrong in thinking that they aren't a rival because it hasn't taken on some sort of "organic" growth over time. The fact is you and several other husker fans can't come to terms with the idea that Nebraska isn't better than Iowa at anything right now. And so you come up with these "corporate" excuses that are lame.
Face it. Nebraska and Iowa a rivals. They are geographically, they are competitively, they are philosohically(sports-wise).
StPaulHusker said:
The trophy is stupid. But that has nothing to do with Iowa not being a rival.
And I'm not mad. I couldn't care less about who, if anyone, is our rival in the B1G. But I can at least accept when there is one. Remember, I'm not the one that went off on this to start. So check your own butthurt.
StPaulHusker said:
Talk about moving goalposts...
Is this what can be expected from you once you've realized the only good point you've made about this discussion is the trophy is dumb?
StPaulHusker said:
knapplc said:
You have a problem with people telling you, and ultimately showing you that some of your opinions are misguided. Then you try to bait them into a heated exchange. Then you tell THEM to calm down.
Funny.
I don't have a problem if others want to view it as a rivalry. I have a little bit of a problem with people telling others their opinions are misguided because they don't agree with your's. However, it appears you have an issue with people who don't view it as a rivalry....but we're the ones that need to relax???
Sorry, I don't live in close proximity to any Iowa fans. If I did maybe I would feel differently. When I did, we owned them and beat them like redheaded step children. Kicking our a$$ for the last few years doesn't mean anything to me, other than I don't like it. Hell, there is a whole list of teams that could be said about. I don't feel short term, lopsided results are any indication of a rivalry. I also don't think pre WWII history influences many people's thinking on the subject. We may just have different criteria for what constitutes a rivalry. I happen to feel any real rivalry requires some games of significance for at least one of the teams involved. Part of the reason why I don't feel we currently have a rival is precisely because Nebraska football has been insignificant since about 2001. I find it tough to get too upset over losing a few to Iowa when there are so many other teams that have done the same or worse to us. This matchup has not been instrumental in one division or conference championship since we joined the B1G. For me it's just another opponent we need to quit sucking against.