Late hit, so what is the rule?
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HuskerTrucker
All-Conference
A lot of that rule is up to the discretion of the official. The bad thing about that call is that we kind of lost composure at that point, getting two more penalties out of it.
husker rob
All-American
this is going to be debated for a long time. HT is right, it is a judgment call from the Ref.
now since this was an ACC field crew, did NU get homered? would a Big12 crew ave made the same call?
I am sure that VT fans feel like the call was justified, and alot of NU fans believe that it was a ticky tack call.
to me, from my view in the south stadium, it did look a little late in real time. after watching the replay on the big screen, it seemed a little iffy. when i got home and watched it on the TV and could replay it over and over in slow mo, it looked like the ref that threw the flag had his view blocked, and didnt really see what happened, and had his judgment skewed by the VT player begging for the call.
if the ref had actually seen the play, he may have realized that a 300+ DL cannot stop his forward momentum, while in the air, on a dime. He can, however lift his head to avoid a spearing penalty (which Suh did).
with all of that said, call was made, game over, time to move on
now since this was an ACC field crew, did NU get homered? would a Big12 crew ave made the same call?
I am sure that VT fans feel like the call was justified, and alot of NU fans believe that it was a ticky tack call.
to me, from my view in the south stadium, it did look a little late in real time. after watching the replay on the big screen, it seemed a little iffy. when i got home and watched it on the TV and could replay it over and over in slow mo, it looked like the ref that threw the flag had his view blocked, and didnt really see what happened, and had his judgment skewed by the VT player begging for the call.
if the ref had actually seen the play, he may have realized that a 300+ DL cannot stop his forward momentum, while in the air, on a dime. He can, however lift his head to avoid a spearing penalty (which Suh did).
with all of that said, call was made, game over, time to move on
DaveH
Team HuskerBoard
No, stuff like that isn't reviewable.
Like most calls, it's a judgement call. I think they screwed it up. It something I can stomach in the 2nd quarter with like 8 minutes to go. Not the 4th quarter with 2-3 minutes to go...
HuskerT
Starter
It's definitely a judgement call, but what pisses me off is that the flag came late because the ref was definitely influenced by the VT players screaming for a flag. I hated the call, but lets be honest, that's not what decided the game! The VT receivers running wide open all over the field had much more to do with the loss than the bad call did.
austintxhusker
Four-Star Recruit
dedhoarse
SkullandBones
Special Teams Player
It's almost completely subjective. I've said this before here, the rule is designed to protect a ball carrier when he leaves the field of play from a malicious hit who's only purpose is to cause injury (because obviously forward progress stopped at the point the ball carrier went out of bounds). So, having said all that the thing that bugs me most about the call is that Suh did nothing to violate the spirit of the rule, he did however violate the letter of the rule. And if we'da been up thirty points at that point nobody would've given a crap. Techinically a defender is not allowed to make contact with a player once he leaves the field of play, technically Suh most certainly did. But, again, it is what it is. It didn't cost us the game.
Foppa
All-American
Very good point...and from the opponent's conference officials...i still refuse to go either way on the call after watching the replay, but this is probably something that needs to be discussed by the NCAA.
Agree. It needs to be discussed and possibly defined a bit more clearly. I guess if it were a reviewable play the only thing that you could see is that he was in the air before the player was out of bounds, but that he DID make contact out of bounds, so it would only reinforce the penatly, unless there was a stipulation for an airpborn defender.
I think anything that could be adjusted with the rule would take a MAJOR change. I think it should be looked at *shrugs*. I DO NOT like rules which let the refs dictate the momentum of a game. Any call should be reviewable, as with video replay you can see EXACTLY what happened (especially now with high-definition). EDIT: of course if there's not a good angle, not clear, etc.. it should stay with the call on the field as it is now.
Of course, that would slow down the game too much so it won't happen
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DaveH
Team HuskerBoard
It won't be.
They stood by those stooges who screwed up the BYU WU game. Why wouldn't they do the same here?
HuskerT
Starter
It's a judgement call and is always going to be judgement call. I think the call stunk, but it's not why we lost the game. Poor offensive play calling and wide open VT receivers had much more to do with the outcome of the game.Agree. It needs to be discussed and possibly defined a bit more clearly. I guess if it were a reviewable play the only thing that you could see is that he was in the air before the player was out of bounds, but that he DID make contact out of bounds, so it would only reinforce the penatly, unless there was a stipulation for an airpborn defender.
I think anything that could be adjusted with the rule would take a MAJOR change. I think it should be looked at *shrugs*. I DO NOT like rules which let the refs dictate the momentum of a game. Any call should be reviewable, as with video replay you can see EXACTLY what happened (especially now with high-definition). EDIT: of course if there's not a good angle, not clear, etc.. it should stay with the call on the field as it is now.
Of course, that would slow down the game too much so it won't happen
HuskerT
Starter
It's a judgement call and is always going to be judgement call. I think the call stunk, but it's not why we lost the game. Poor offensive play calling and wide open VT receivers had much more to do with the outcome of the game.Agree. It needs to be discussed and possibly defined a bit more clearly. I guess if it were a reviewable play the only thing that you could see is that he was in the air before the player was out of bounds, but that he DID make contact out of bounds, so it would only reinforce the penatly, unless there was a stipulation for an airpborn defender.
I think anything that could be adjusted with the rule would take a MAJOR change. I think it should be looked at *shrugs*. I DO NOT like rules which let the refs dictate the momentum of a game. Any call should be reviewable, as with video replay you can see EXACTLY what happened (especially now with high-definition). EDIT: of course if there's not a good angle, not clear, etc.. it should stay with the call on the field as it is now.
Of course, that would slow down the game too much so it won't happen