Looks like the strength coach is pushing the players hard

[huskers15]

In the deed the glory.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

In the deed the glory.

Yes, how can I help?

 

[ZRod]

There are lots of theories on lifting. We have seen many of them over the last 10-15 years go through Nebraska. Some people claim simple lifts like bench, squats, power cleans....etc is what you need to key on.

I think in the 80s Nebraska started actually designing lifting stations that resembled actual moves football players made. Some claimed that was a huge development. I even think our HS uses some of those types of machines now and we are known for having one of the nicest HS weight rooms in the state.

The part I like that has been mentioned is that the players were able to give input on how much they were ready to lift. I'm not a big lifter but I would think that would be much more advantageous than a coach simply calculating it and giving you a sheet of paper telling you how much you are supposed to lift. Obviously, there would need to be good supervision to make sure some meat head isn't doing something he shouldn't. But, the personal input is important.

I have set weight limits on the program I use. They are percentages based of my 1 rep training max but I do a serious of different reps with the weight.. I don't have an issue with using set weight limits as long as they are increased every couple weeks or every month.
It also isn't bad to really push yourself and lift what you think you can lift, as long as your safe and smart about it.

The problem can be with the first idea is some guys gain faster than others. If everyone is going off of some calculation, some guys aren't going to gain as fast as they could.

Each player would have their own weight limits based off their 1 RM. They aren't off some sheet that someone gives them saying do this weight. The point of the program is to increase your weight slowly so you don't wear out and cause yourself injuries.

Understand.
We have a very good weight coach/program in our HS for the size of school we are. But, my son comes home sometimes from lifting and it's like it was no big deal. Heck, one time he got done in about 20 minutes. When i questioned him about it, he said...I did what I was supposed to do.

Well, that's telling me that he could have done more that day. But, he was given this sheet of paper that told him what to do and he did it. I think he could have gained more if he was taught how to give input and motivated to push himself.

But, I know I wasn't there and it could be different than my impressions.

You don't have to kill yourself in the gym to get good gains. Work hard, yes, but depending on the routine 45 minutes to an hour is pretty good. If your booking it with minimal rest you could do 30 minutes easy.
Then again I remember high school, I think we all slacked off a little back in the day. If we only knew how high our potential was...

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

In the deed the glory.

Yes, how can I help?

This made me chuckle

 

[Scratchtown]

There are lots of theories on lifting. We have seen many of them over the last 10-15 years go through Nebraska. Some people claim simple lifts like bench, squats, power cleans....etc is what you need to key on.

I think in the 80s Nebraska started actually designing lifting stations that resembled actual moves football players made. Some claimed that was a huge development. I even think our HS uses some of those types of machines now and we are known for having one of the nicest HS weight rooms in the state.

The part I like that has been mentioned is that the players were able to give input on how much they were ready to lift. I'm not a big lifter but I would think that would be much more advantageous than a coach simply calculating it and giving you a sheet of paper telling you how much you are supposed to lift. Obviously, there would need to be good supervision to make sure some meat head isn't doing something he shouldn't. But, the personal input is important.

I have set weight limits on the program I use. They are percentages based of my 1 rep training max but I do a serious of different reps with the weight.. I don't have an issue with using set weight limits as long as they are increased every couple weeks or every month.
It also isn't bad to really push yourself and lift what you think you can lift, as long as your safe and smart about it.

The problem can be with the first idea is some guys gain faster than others. If everyone is going off of some calculation, some guys aren't going to gain as fast as they could.

Each player would have their own weight limits based off their 1 RM. They aren't off some sheet that someone gives them saying do this weight. The point of the program is to increase your weight slowly so you don't wear out and cause yourself injuries.

Understand.
We have a very good weight coach/program in our HS for the size of school we are. But, my son comes home sometimes from lifting and it's like it was no big deal. Heck, one time he got done in about 20 minutes. When i questioned him about it, he said...I did what I was supposed to do.

Well, that's telling me that he could have done more that day. But, he was given this sheet of paper that told him what to do and he did it. I think he could have gained more if he was taught how to give input and motivated to push himself.

But, I know I wasn't there and it could be different than my impressions.

You don't have to kill yourself in the gym to get good gains. Work hard, yes, but depending on the routine 45 minutes to an hour is pretty good. If your booking it with minimal rest you could do 30 minutes easy.
Then again I remember high school, I think we all slacked off a little back in the day. If we only knew how high our potential was...

Yes.

 

[Saunders]

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/32034-dobson-and-workouts/

Yup. It's like clockwork, and happens at every school.

 

[BigRedBuster]

There are lots of theories on lifting. We have seen many of them over the last 10-15 years go through Nebraska. Some people claim simple lifts like bench, squats, power cleans....etc is what you need to key on.

I think in the 80s Nebraska started actually designing lifting stations that resembled actual moves football players made. Some claimed that was a huge development. I even think our HS uses some of those types of machines now and we are known for having one of the nicest HS weight rooms in the state.

The part I like that has been mentioned is that the players were able to give input on how much they were ready to lift. I'm not a big lifter but I would think that would be much more advantageous than a coach simply calculating it and giving you a sheet of paper telling you how much you are supposed to lift. Obviously, there would need to be good supervision to make sure some meat head isn't doing something he shouldn't. But, the personal input is important.

I have set weight limits on the program I use. They are percentages based of my 1 rep training max but I do a serious of different reps with the weight.. I don't have an issue with using set weight limits as long as they are increased every couple weeks or every month.
It also isn't bad to really push yourself and lift what you think you can lift, as long as your safe and smart about it.

The problem can be with the first idea is some guys gain faster than others. If everyone is going off of some calculation, some guys aren't going to gain as fast as they could.

Each player would have their own weight limits based off their 1 RM. They aren't off some sheet that someone gives them saying do this weight. The point of the program is to increase your weight slowly so you don't wear out and cause yourself injuries.

Understand.
We have a very good weight coach/program in our HS for the size of school we are. But, my son comes home sometimes from lifting and it's like it was no big deal. Heck, one time he got done in about 20 minutes. When i questioned him about it, he said...I did what I was supposed to do.

Well, that's telling me that he could have done more that day. But, he was given this sheet of paper that told him what to do and he did it. I think he could have gained more if he was taught how to give input and motivated to push himself.

But, I know I wasn't there and it could be different than my impressions.

You don't have to kill yourself in the gym to get good gains. Work hard, yes, but depending on the routine 45 minutes to an hour is pretty good. If your booking it with minimal rest you could do 30 minutes easy.
Then again I remember high school, I think we all slacked off a little back in the day. If we only knew how high our potential was...

Oh....I fully understand that. He is very good at what he does and he has trained some very good athletes (some have ended up in Lincoln). We even have an ex Husker on our staff along with an ex-husker shot putter that was top 5 in the nation. So, these guys know what they are doing. I'm just hoping he is pushing himself as much as he should be.

But, I'm not one of "those parents" so, I will stay out of it.

 

[HuskerinSE]

I feel I have a good perspective on this subject. I'm a former player (Mississippi State) and a private technique and conditioning coach in the South East. I work a lot with young men from a couple of the best JUCO programs in the country and some high schoolers looking to make an easier transition into the next step of football.

Over the past few years of watching my beloved Huskers I have, on more than one occasion, noticed that our guys seem to be inconsistency conditioned. You have a number of players at several positions who are rock solid, show focus, hard play, high motors, and consistency in techniques. And another part of guys who look lost, a bit out of shape at times, and TIGHT. Watching guys look like they were afraid to miss a tackle instead of attacking.

This IMHO comes from lack of focus, accountability, and attention to detail starting at ground level (weight room) and working its way up the ladder. Everything I have read about Coach Phillip's training method is consistent with how I train guys. If you get your motor running on the ground floor you'll keep it running on the top floor. Mix circuits, Olympics, high impact, and calisthenics. Your only competition in the weight room is yourself.

When guys are held 100% accountable at all times, Pushed hard, and made to constantly beat themselves on a day to day basis it translates to the field and the rest of life. Guys who know they own the weights hit the field knowing they can own their assignment.

I won't really know what's up (like everyone else.) until toes hit turf. However at this moment I'd bet my first born that our guys come out like they are trying to break opponents willpower next year.