lousy Big Ten to ruin ohios NC dreams

Notre Dame Joe said:
In CFB you earn[ed] it on the field over 12 games instead of two. Playing better in the playoffs is not better than doing it in the regular season. But people think that is because it's at the end of the year and it's called "the playoffs." Aside from popular opinion, there is nothing innately meritocratic.
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If there are only two undefeated teams every year, that would be correct. If you're having to decide between one-loss (or even two-loss) teams because of style points and computer calculations, no. You still have to have a great regular season to get into the playoffs.

How can you're point be correct if you can go undefeated and not get a chance at the National Championship?

 
Mavric said:
Notre Dame Joe said:
In CFB you earn[ed] it on the field over 12 games instead of two. Playing better in the playoffs is not better than doing it in the regular season. But people think that is because it's at the end of the year and it's called "the playoffs." Aside from popular opinion, there is nothing innately meritocratic.
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If there are only two undefeated teams every year, that would be correct. If you're having to decide between one-loss (or even two-loss) teams because of style points and computer calculations, no. You still have to have a great regular season to get into the playoffs.

How can you're point be correct if you can go undefeated and not get a chance at the National Championship?
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The same way a team can be passed over for the playoffs by a lesser team with a worse record.

More likely, the playoff helps teams that don't play the season long grind consistently , but can get up for a big game. The playoff is a benefit to teams like the Carrol Trojans, who were always ready for primetime tv but couldn't focus on their boring conference games.

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Mavric said:
Notre Dame Joe said:
In CFB you earn[ed] it on the field over 12 games instead of two. Playing better in the playoffs is not better than doing it in the regular season. But people think that is because it's at the end of the year and it's called "the playoffs." Aside from popular opinion, there is nothing innately meritocratic.
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If there are only two undefeated teams every year, that would be correct. If you're having to decide between one-loss (or even two-loss) teams because of style points and computer calculations, no. You still have to have a great regular season to get into the playoffs.

How can you're point be correct if you can go undefeated and not get a chance at the National Championship?
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The same way a team can be passed over for the playoffs by a lesser team with a worse record.

More likely, the playoff helps teams that don't play the season long grind consistently , but can get up for a big game. The playoff is a benefit to teams like the Carrol Trojans, who were always ready for primetime tv but couldn't focus on their boring conference games.
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So you're saying that both systems can do the same thing? Interesting change in your argument.

 
OSU plays garbage non-conference. If NEB was undefeated right now, they would probably also be in around the same spot.

Sucks the B1G is awful, but deal with it...

 
Yeah the playoff definitely needs to be 8 teams. I don't want it to get any bigger than that though. Unless can keep some semblance of the bowls as is. I enjoy watching a bunch of bowl games over the holidays, even if it is the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
I said both system are equal in quality, changed nothing.
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If there are three undefeated teams, do they all get a shot? Seems like that's a change to me.

 
Thank God next year college football will start entering some semblance of a sport that knows what they are doing.

 
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I think this Saturday marks the first meaningless game a Big10 leader, MSU vs Minn. Sparty is a lock for the CCG and if they lose they don't a BCS bid no matter what. Therefore it's in Sparty's interest to take the week off and put all their eggs in the OSU basket.

 
I think Wisky clips Sparty AGAIN.

I think OSU beats Sparty, Sparty goes 10-2 and gets ranked below 10-2 Wisky who gets a BCS game in Miami or something(hopefully they get a nice trip to Pasadena)

 
I remember Urban getting crap from some on the board when he told coaches in the BIG 10 to get better (though he didn't say it as nicely). He was aware that he needs others in the conference to step up in order for wins to hold more validity.

 
And honestly, I think Penn State and Wisconsin have done that with the hirings of Anderson and BoB. Tough to say about Northwestern due to their injuries. Minnesota is kind of in the air with their coach right now. Michigan State finally has the full coachiing staff they needed to be dangerous.

I don't know what's going on with Pelini, because the talent is there, the coaching is there....it just somehow doesn't show on the field (in terms of the eliteness - right now you guys are good, but should be better) Iowa needs some improvement as well but is middle tier.

Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue need a serious overhaul.

 
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