Martinez: "Pelini misunderstood the call"

Look at those comments...

adamwright2008

Why would anyone want their kid to play for that fool...yeah I know it's Nebraska and its history but he is a mad man...

DWeber991

Pelini is an a**. Maybe he could have waited, but it was not something that needed to leave the team locker room.
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Pelini is the one more misunderstood by the college football world at large - the very audience being spoken to in this ESPN College Football nation blog.

I know people will get on me for not sticking up for Taylor once again given the opportunity. But I will say that I don't think there exists any issue between the two, starting since probably the day after the game or even earlier. More than anybody last year, Bo had Taylor's back. The way the whole thing is interpreted by people is just plain misguided, and I feel strong about that.

On the other hand, I don't know how I feel at all about Taylor coming out with this. I don't exactly remember what Bo has said on the subject, but I'm sure he deflected everything off of Martinez and shielded him, as he tends to do for his players - and it's why they love him so much. Bo is fiercely protective of his guys, and it's a quality we should admire in a head coach and it is exactly why anyone would want their kid to play for "that fool."

So why doesn't Taylor step up and say, I made mistakes, coach made mistakes, it's all in the past. Why does he put more scrutiny on the guy that has done everything for him, in yet another public statement attempt to clear his own reputation?

Maybe I am overreacting, but the coaches have more than stuck up for Taylor to the media, and this feels both unnecessary, and a bad PR misstep. And I'm probably one of the more critical of Bo (and specifically his temper) around here.

 
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brasky said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/43549/martinez-says-pelini-misunderstood-call

Interesting. I still don't think this keeps ESPN from playing the video any chance they can get.
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I am of the opinion that BP had every reason to be upset with TM over a broken rule I just don't think he handled it in the best way possible. He has a well earned reputation of being, let's say, "colorful" in his sideline demeanor and in the era of video, TV, internet, etc. it plays well in putting him in a negative light and in turn also all those affiliated with the Huskers. It's not a "hanging" offense, but I think he does need to find a way to channel that intensity in a manner that is a better reflection of himself, the team, the University and the fans.

Wouldn't it be more effective to work the refs in a way that they don't feel you are showing them up? Do you think the best way to get out of a ticket is to yell at the cop because they pulled you over?

Wouldn't it be better to have that conversation with TM without poking him in the chest and maybe not be quite that animated?

I love his passion and his intensity I just wish he'd channel it differently on game day.

GBR

 
zoogies said:
Look at those comments...

adamwright2008

Why would anyone want their kid to play for that fool...yeah I know it's Nebraska and its history but he is a mad man...

DWeber991

Pelini is an a**. Maybe he could have waited, but it was not something that needed to leave the team locker room.
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Pelini is the one more misunderstood by the college football world at large - the very audience being spoken to in this ESPN College Football nation blog.

I know people will get on me for not sticking up for Taylor once again given the opportunity. But I will say that I don't think there exists any issue between the two, starting since probably the day after the game or even earlier. More than anybody last year, Bo had Taylor's back. The way the whole thing is interpreted by people is just plain misguided, and I feel strong about that.

On the other hand, I don't know how I feel at all about Taylor coming out with this. I don't exactly remember what Bo has said on the subject, but I'm sure he deflected everything off of Martinez and shielded him, as he tends to do for his players - and it's why they love him so much. Bo is fiercely protective of his guys, and it's a quality we should admire in a head coach and it is exactly why anyone would want their kid to play for "that fool."

So why doesn't Taylor step up and say, I made mistakes, coach made mistakes, it's all in the past. Why does he put more scrutiny on the guy that has done everything for him, just in yet another public statement attempt to clear his own reputation?

Maybe I am overreacting, but the coaches have more than stuck up for Taylor to the media, and this feels both unnecessary, and a bad PR misstep. And I'm probably one of the more critical of Bo (and specifically his temper) around here.
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Taylor already mentioned this in an article on Huskers.com during the spring. I remember hearing Pelini say in an interview that it was a misunderstanding, and in the past, as well. Either it's a grand coverup, or they're just being honest.

We crucifiy them for not talking, and when they do talk, we tell them it shouldn't be brought up. CAN NOT WIN.

(I'm not singling you out)

 
HuskerinLibertyMO said:
brasky said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/43549/martinez-says-pelini-misunderstood-call

Interesting. I still don't think this keeps ESPN from playing the video any chance they can get.
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I am of the opinion that BP had every reason to be upset with TM over a broken rule I just don't think he handled it in the best way possible. He has a well earned reputation of being, let's say, "colorful" in his sideline demeanor and in the era of video, TV, internet, etc. it plays well in putting him in a negative light and in turn also all those affiliated with the Huskers. It's not a "hanging" offense, but I think he does need to find a way to channel that intensity in a manner that is a better reflection of himself, the team, the University and the fans.

Wouldn't it be more effective to work the refs in a way that they don't feel you are showing them up? Do you think the best way to get out of a ticket is to yell at the cop because they pulled you over?

Wouldn't it be better to have that conversation with TM without poking him in the chest and maybe not be quite that animated?

I love his passion and his intensity I just wish he'd channel it differently on game day.

GBR
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Your ticket analogy isn't quite correct. A more correct analogy would be a cop walking up to you on the street before you even got in your car, handing you a ticket for speeding, and then trying to arrest you. That's the type of crimethat was committed by the "officials" that night.

Bo was certainly better after that night, even when his offense was continually crapping the bed. He will learn.

 
^ You are right, it's good of Taylor to say that to the local media. And I think I remember that too, solid PR all around on that one. But then, why this? This doesn't make Pelini look good, when it is a grand opportunity on a public stage, to absolve Coach of the heat he took over that incident. There was an internal storm about Taylor that game, but this incident on the national level was Pelini taking a ton of flak. And now Taylor says to the national audience that is waiting to jump on another 'HC mistreats his players' bandwagon, that he, the player, didn't actually do anything wrong, and his coach just interpreted things incorrectly.

Maybe I'm misreading this entirely and Taylor saying Pelini 'misunderstood the incident' is an attempt to paint the coach in a good light. At first glance though, I didn't think it was a particularly good light.

 
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Pretty much everyone did the wrong thing in the situation. But I agree 100% with the person who said the trainer should have waited. Bo was pissed enough. The trainer should have protected him by not bringing it up until after the game. There was just absolutely no reason that it was so important that it had to be brought up in a game that was tied 3-3 or whatever the score was at the time. It was irrelevant.

 
zoogies said:
Look at those comments...

adamwright2008

Why would anyone want their kid to play for that fool...yeah I know it's Nebraska and its history but he is a mad man...

DWeber991

Pelini is an a**. Maybe he could have waited, but it was not something that needed to leave the team locker room.
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Pelini is the one more misunderstood by the college football world at large - the very audience being spoken to in this ESPN College Football nation blog.

I know people will get on me for not sticking up for Taylor once again given the opportunity. But I will say that I don't think there exists any issue between the two, starting since probably the day after the game or even earlier. More than anybody last year, Bo had Taylor's back. The way the whole thing is interpreted by people is just plain misguided, and I feel strong about that.

On the other hand, I don't know how I feel at all about Taylor coming out with this. I don't exactly remember what Bo has said on the subject, but I'm sure he deflected everything off of Martinez and shielded him, as he tends to do for his players - and it's why they love him so much. Bo is fiercely protective of his guys, and it's a quality we should admire in a head coach and it is exactly why anyone would want their kid to play for "that fool."

So why doesn't Taylor step up and say, I made mistakes, coach made mistakes, it's all in the past. Why does he put more scrutiny on the guy that has done everything for him, in yet another public statement attempt to clear his own reputation?

Maybe I am overreacting, but the coaches have more than stuck up for Taylor to the media, and this feels both unnecessary, and a bad PR misstep. And I'm probably one of the more critical of Bo (and specifically his temper) around here.
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I don't think Taylor placed any scrutiny on Pelini with those comments. He said it was a misunderstanding, and that Pelini came over and talked to him about it, and that he was (major understatement warning) "heated." Other than saying "No comment," I don't know if Martinez could have played down the situation more. And if he had said "no comment," people would have interpreted it as hostility or immaturity and as a sign of tension remaining between him and Pelini.

These kids/coaches aren't James Carville - they don't measure the political impact of every word that comes out of their mouth. The next step in PR for Martinez isn't learning how to craft finely honed public statements - it's learning how to appear in front of a few cameras without squirming. After that - complete sentences. Then he'll be good enough to run for president, BOOM!

 
saunders45 said:
zoogies said:
Look at those comments...

adamwright2008

Why would anyone want their kid to play for that fool...yeah I know it's Nebraska and its history but he is a mad man...

DWeber991

Pelini is an a**. Maybe he could have waited, but it was not something that needed to leave the team locker room.
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Pelini is the one more misunderstood by the college football world at large - the very audience being spoken to in this ESPN College Football nation blog.

I know people will get on me for not sticking up for Taylor once again given the opportunity. But I will say that I don't think there exists any issue between the two, starting since probably the day after the game or even earlier. More than anybody last year, Bo had Taylor's back. The way the whole thing is interpreted by people is just plain misguided, and I feel strong about that.

On the other hand, I don't know how I feel at all about Taylor coming out with this. I don't exactly remember what Bo has said on the subject, but I'm sure he deflected everything off of Martinez and shielded him, as he tends to do for his players - and it's why they love him so much. Bo is fiercely protective of his guys, and it's a quality we should admire in a head coach and it is exactly why anyone would want their kid to play for "that fool."

So why doesn't Taylor step up and say, I made mistakes, coach made mistakes, it's all in the past. Why does he put more scrutiny on the guy that has done everything for him, just in yet another public statement attempt to clear his own reputation?

Maybe I am overreacting, but the coaches have more than stuck up for Taylor to the media, and this feels both unnecessary, and a bad PR misstep. And I'm probably one of the more critical of Bo (and specifically his temper) around here.
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Taylor already mentioned this in an article on Huskers.com during the spring. I remember hearing Pelini say in an interview that it was a misunderstanding, and in the past, as well. Either it's a grand coverup, or they're just being honest.

We crucifiy them for not talking, and when they do talk, we tell them it shouldn't be brought up. CAN NOT WIN.

(I'm not singling you out)
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Oh yeah, those two are going to get crucified no matter what they do (or don't).

Oh well, they're used to it by now. :)

 
Any talk of this incident is bad. I would have appreciated a Mark McGwire response to the question. "I am not here to talk about the past."

Please, can we just forget about this.

 
zoogies said:
^ You are right, it's good of Taylor to say that to the local media. And I think I remember that too, solid PR all around on that one. But then, why this? This doesn't make Pelini look good, when it is a grand opportunity on a public stage, to absolve Coach of the heat he took over that incident. There was an internal storm about Taylor that game, but this incident on the national level was Pelini taking a ton of flak. And now Taylor says to the national audience that is waiting to jump on another 'HC mistreats his players' bandwagon, that he, the player, didn't actually do anything wrong, and his coach just interpreted things incorrectly.

Maybe I'm misreading this entirely and Taylor saying Pelini 'misunderstood the incident' is an attempt to paint the coach in a good light. At first glance though, I didn't think it was a particularly good light.
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Did you read the CBS article by Dodd? He's a Mizzou grad, and normally disses on NU, but his article, not the ESPN blog post, is actually quite fair.

So he called you. Was he just taking a shot and hoping you'd answer the phone?
"Yeah. He knew I went to the lockerroom. I thought I was done. I didn't think I'd be able to go back in. I knew it was him who was calling. I explained to him what happened. The trainer was next to me ...

"Coach Pelini misunderstood what one of the trainers told him [about] what was going on. That's when Coach Pelini came over and talked to me about it. He was heated because of everything going on, everything going on in the game."
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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/30323032

 
I guess I am being overdefensive of Bo in the wrong direction. But I do look at it as, those type of comments wouldn't be there if this article weren't. I don't think it takes a PR specialist to come at this from the angle of "Hey guys, lay off coach, he did nothing wrong. My bad for creating that kind of situation during the game." Taking responsibility there would have been very big of him, especially when there is no reason not to. Who even cares if he inadvertently stepped into the gray area of some inconsequential team rule in an incident that is buried. Instead, the angle seems to be "I did nothing wrong, Coach misunderstood the situation."

I'm not going to rip Martinez for the latter, I just don't know how I feel about it, and my initial reaction is eh.

I just found the CBS article and it does portray it better. Nothing more from Taylor really in that article, but you can tell the author is framing it from the start in a "This is different from what the public saw of Pelini" way, and since he was the guy with whom Martinez spoke, this is probably the correct interpretation.

tmfr15 said:
Any talk of this incident is bad. I would have appreciated a Mark McGwire response to the question. "I am not here to talk about the past."

Please, can we just forget about this.
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Mostly, I agree with this. This didn't need to be dragged out into the spotlight yet again. If it was going to be, it needed to be unequivocally and very outspokenly in support of Bo. As in lavishing him with rainbows and unicorns. Maybe that's why I'm scrutinizing it against that kind of standard of PR awareness.

SkipTheMan2

you guys are dumb pelini is a great coach and haad a reason to get mad the penalties that game were like 18-2 or something like that you guys are ridiculous completly turned nebraska around and they have a bright future
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From the ESPN blog. Quoted for reference. And that...is how you win an argument. you guyz dumbz.

 
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