You are still ignoring that someone else laid a winning foundation in the years leading up to Rhule, both schools had winning records. You can talk about context, well actually look at the 3 year recent history before Rhule. That means way more than the 100 years before that. There is lots of turnover every coaching change, scandal or not. All I am saying is Matt is not some master program builder like the narrative suggests He is a very solid coach who does great at stabilizing programs in flux. He is probably the best we can hope to have at this point, no arguments there. He also has a history of not being able to win games above what is expected, being 2-23 in ranked games and 0-18 since going 2-5 in them at Temple. Yes he might have been one of the best coaches record wise at those schools, but the comment I responded to was that they were the most TERRIBLE schools in history, going 1-11 every year before he showed up. That is simply not true and I provided you the data showing that. For 100 years? Ok, fair, you can have that W but recent history means much more than a century.