Media Bias

Archy1221 said:
We really didn’t need the 2024 election to tell us that.   Maybe some hold out just needed further affirmation 🤷‍♂️
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was hoping you might address the specific examples I offered, rather than that softball of an opening line. 

You know what? Forget it. It's Christmas. 

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
was hoping you might address the specific examples I offered, rather than that softball of an opening line. 

You know what? Forget it. It's Christmas. 
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Softballs are much easier to

Hit.   
 

But to address the rest of your post.   Fox News has the most viewers by network, but the number of networks and newspapers with editorial boards with a left/far left viewpoint outnumber those on the right in my opinion.   The right seems to have settled on Fox News as the place to go, where as Libs have a greater spread of places like MSNBC, NYT editorial page, New Yorker, etc to find their disinformation.   
 

The 2020 election presented ample incorrect information, mostly (by a wide margin) from the right.   The 2016-2018 Russia collusion hoax provided ample incorrect information, mostly (by a wide margin) from the left.  
 

Unfortunately we are in an age of media where far too many report information as early as possible to hopefully define the narrative and then later see if they can establish the facts to support that “reporting”.  

 
Archy1221 said:
But to address the rest of your post.   Fox News has the most viewers by network, but the number of networks and newspapers with editorial boards with a left/far left viewpoint outnumber those on the right in my opinion.   The right seems to have settled on Fox News as the place to go, where as Libs have a greater spread of places like MSNBC, NYT editorial page, New Yorker, etc to find their disinformation.   
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I'm not interested in trying to quantify total amounts of partisan and/or untrue information broken down by party, but to paint it as "well the right has fox news and the left has a whole big bunch of companies all over" is a bit disingenuous.

Fox News, OAN, Breitbart, InfoWars, The Daily Wire, The Daily Caller, New York Post, Newsmax, Epoch Times, Washington Examiner, The Blaze, The Federalist and plenty of others are all bona fide cogs in the right wing media machine.

 
Lorewarn said:
I'm not interested in trying to quantify total amounts of partisan and/or untrue information broken down by party, but to paint it as "well the right has fox news and the left has a whole big bunch of companies all over" is a bit disingenuous.

Fox News, OAN, Breitbart, InfoWars, The Daily Wire, The Daily Caller, New York Post, Newsmax, Epoch Times, Washington Examiner, The Blaze, The Federalist and plenty of others are all bona fide cogs in the right wing media machine.
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This.  So....Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in the 90s convinced about half of the US that the "left wing main stream media" are all evin liberal cess pools of extreme propaganda.  So, a large part of them never even think about turning on one of those networks.

So.....instead, they turn to the list you mentioned.....along with a ton of wack job pod casters that continue to foster those views of the media....guess what.....so they can make more money.  It's a huge reason why they do.  They get you captured into this mindset that you can't trust anyone else and...guess what...they are laughing all the way to the bank while a large portion of our population just goes deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.

 
Lorewarn said:
I'm not interested in trying to quantify total amounts of partisan and/or untrue information broken down by party, but to paint it as "well the right has fox news and the left has a whole big bunch of companies all over" is a bit disingenuous.
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Might be disingenuous to you.  And I didn’t make the point that FoxNews was the only source for Right news/opinion.   Just an aside, if you want to use quotes in reference to a post of mine, you might want to put the actual words in the quotes vs what you wanted them or wished them to be👍

Lorewarn said:
Fox News, OAN, Breitbart, InfoWars, The Daily Wire, The Daily Caller, New York Post, Newsmax, Epoch Times, Washington Examiner, The Blaze, The Federalist and plenty of others are all bona fide cogs in the right wing media machine
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Vs CNN, NYT, LATimes, MSNBC, CBSnews, NBCnews, ABCnews, The View, Dallas morning News editorial page, Chicago sun times editorial page, Chicago Tribune, Salon, Yahoo, Dailybeast, KCStar, New Yorker, Rolling Stones, New York Magazine,  Boston Globe, Boston Herald, WAPo, Miami Herald,  and plenty of others being bona fide cogs in the left wing media machine.  

 
BigRedBuster said:
So.....instead, they turn to the list you mentioned.....along with a ton of wack job pod casters that continue to foster those views of the media....guess what.....so they can make more money.  It's a huge reason why they do.  They get you captured into this mindset that you can't trust anyone else and...guess what...they are laughing all the way to the bank while a large portion of our population just goes deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.
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And you think this isn’t an issue with Leftist media  :laughpound :laughpound :laughpound

 
BigRedBuster said:
This.  So....Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in the 90s convinced about half of the US that the "left wing main stream media" are all evin liberal cess pools of extreme propaganda.  So, a large part of them never even think about turning on one of those networks.

So.....instead, they turn to the list you mentioned.....along with a ton of wack job pod casters that continue to foster those views of the media....guess what.....so they can make more money.  It's a huge reason why they do.  They get you captured into this mindset that you can't trust anyone else and...guess what...they are laughing all the way to the bank while a large portion of our population just goes deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.
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Liberal minded folks do the same thing from the opposite viewpoint. 

 
DevoHusker said:
Liberal minded folks do the same thing from the opposite viewpoint. 
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The liberal side of things has not gone through the incredible mind numbing that the other side has. Archy is trying to claim that poor little Fox News is the island in the ocean of liberal media crap. It’s simply not true. But, Fox News has done a great job of convincing a major portion of the public that they can only trust them. 
 

There are extreme left leaning crap. And there are extreme right leaning crap. There is a lot in the middle that leans probably more liberal than conservative. 
 

The amount of extreme right crap has taken on a way bigger influence in the last 20-30 years and it’s influencing a major portion of the population to wacko crap. 
 

Is the middle that leans left a problem because they get things wrong or are influenced in one way?  Sure. But it’s disingenuous to lump them into the extreme crap because the extreme right outlets tell you to never trust them. They need to be called out appropriately when they do it. 
 

I constantly see Elon telling everyone in Twitter that legacy news outlets are dead because they are extreme left and you should never trust them. Meanwhile, he’s the biggest influencer on Twitter spreading disinformation. 
 

People eat it up thinking he’s the bastion of sanity in all this and he’s the exact opposite. 
 

It’s amazing to watch and sad at the same time. 

 
BigRedBuster said:
The liberal side of things has not gone through the incredible mind numbing that the other side has. Archy is trying to claim that poor little Fox News is the island in the ocean of liberal media crap. It’s simply not true. But, Fox News has done a great job of convincing a major portion of the public that they can only trust them. 
 

There are extreme left leaning crap. And there are extreme right leaning crap. There is a lot in the middle that leans probably more liberal than conservative. 
 

The amount of extreme right crap has taken on a way bigger influence in the last 20-30 years and it’s influencing a major portion of the population to wacko crap. 
 

Is the middle that leans left a problem because they get things wrong or are influenced in one way?  Sure. But it’s disingenuous to lump them into the extreme crap because the extreme right outlets tell you to never trust them. They need to be called out appropriately when they do it. 
 

I constantly see Elon telling everyone in Twitter that legacy news outlets are dead because they are extreme left and you should never trust them. Meanwhile, he’s the biggest influencer on Twitter spreading disinformation. 
 

People eat it up thinking he’s the bastion of sanity in all this and he’s the exact opposite. 
 

It’s amazing to watch and sad at the same time. 
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Good take here

 
BigRedBuster said:
The liberal side of things has not gone through the incredible mind numbing that the other side has. Archy is trying to claim that poor little Fox News is the island in the ocean of liberal media crap. It’s simply not true. But, Fox News has done a great job of convincing a major portion of the public that they can only trust them. 
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1) your first statement is nothing more than opinion.  An opinion that seams to not be in the majority as even media outlets that try to be middle or slight left lean are blaming the liberal side of media for pushing voters to the right.  
2) I didn’t claim anything about “poor little FoxNews is the island in the ocean of…”.  You are doing what you typically do of whining about a post that you can’t refute so you change the concept of the post.   What I said was most right leaning viewers tend to go to FoxNews and coalesced around that as their source.  I also never said it was the only source.   I also said It certainly has more viewers, but there are many more sources of Liberal news and wrong information than right leaning sources IMO.   Feel free to disagree, just make sure to disagree with the actual post and not your version of what you wished the post said.  
 

BigRedBuster said:
There are extreme left leaning crap. And there are extreme right leaning crap. There is a lot in the middle that leans probably more liberal than conservative
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Interesting that you just now pretty much agreed with what I had said 

BigRedBuster said:
Is the middle that leans left a problem because they get things wrong or are influenced in one way?  Sure. But it’s disingenuous to lump them into the extreme crap because the extreme right outlets tell you to never trust them. They need to be called out appropriately when they do it. 
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All the media outlets that peddle narrative reporting and make the news incorrect in their reporting need called out. Not just the far right but the far left middle left and middle right.  
 

BigRedBuster said:
I constantly see Elon telling everyone in Twitter that legacy news outlets are dead because they are extreme left and you should never trust them. Meanwhile, he’s the biggest influencer on Twitter spreading disinformation
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When does he constantly say this wording?   I get that you hate him for some reason, but accuracy would be in good order. 

DevoHusker said:
Good take here
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 Not really

 
Archy1221 said:
1) your first statement is nothing more than opinion.  An opinion that seams to not be in the majority as even media outlets that try to be middle or slight left lean are blaming the liberal side of media for pushing voters to the right.  
2) I didn’t claim anything about “poor little FoxNews is the island in the ocean of…”.  You are doing what you typically do of whining about a post that you can’t refute so you change the concept of the post.   What I said was most right leaning viewers tend to go to FoxNews and coalesced around that as their source.  I also never said it was the only source.   I also said It certainly has more viewers, but there are many more sources of Liberal news and wrong information than right leaning sources IMO.   Feel free to disagree, just make sure to disagree with the actual post and not your version of what you wished the post said.  
 

Interesting that you just now pretty much agreed with what I had said 

All the media outlets that peddle narrative reporting and make the news incorrect in their reporting need called out. Not just the far right but the far left middle left and middle right.  
 

When does he constantly say this wording?   I get that you hate him for some reason, but accuracy would be in good order. 

 Not really
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Sorry….but no. 

 
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