Millard South Football

Mavric said:
It would be helpful but I've never heard of any fair way to add any other component.
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Yeah, I’m not smart enough to have the answer but it currently isn’t working. NSAA needs to come up with something. Or maybe we just leave it up their opponents, like Lincoln High. If enough teams cancel, I guess the super teams would be forced to play mostly national/out of state games or self adjust their team composition.
 
JJ Husker said:
Yeah, I’m not smart enough to have the answer but it currently isn’t working. NSAA needs to come up with something. Or maybe we just leave it up their opponents, like Lincoln High. If enough teams cancel, I guess the super teams would be forced to play mostly national/out of state games or self adjust their team composition.
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They are changing how they do scheduling for Classes A and B next year. Basically they are going to subdivide them in to the "haves" and "have nots" and play withing your subclassification. I think the teams that qualify for the playoffs will mostly (all?) from from the "haves" division.

The NSAA just does what the member schools vote for. The above plan came from the schools and was approved by their vote. "The NSAA" doesn't really have any power to do anything in and of themselves.
 
gobiggergoredder said:
I'm saying by participation. Basically, enrollment doesn't work at all.

The Grand Island example is perfect. You have the highest enrollment, and you have no SRs or JRs on a team that needs 5 players.

I think some kind of formula that shows participation, with a weight associated with the upper classes, may make more sense. In theory, maybe the GI girls basketball team would end up being Class C or something? This probably wouldn't work any because of conferences and scheduling. But it's not working now either.
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There is a 0% chance it will ever be based on participation. There would open a door for schools to limit their participation numbers to get in the class they want to be in (to say nothing of not knowing what that number will actually be until right when the season starts).
 
@Mavric
I’ve got a question maybe you know the answer to. About a month ago Millard (North or South-unsure) played Cherry Creek (CO) and got blown the F out. Do you know if it was South or North? I’ve found conflicting info online. But my question is, if it was South and Creek whooped em that bad…wow. And if it was North, are they significantly below the level of South and, if so, why would they travel to Colorado to play one of the premier Denver metro teams?
 
JJ Husker said:
@Mavric
I’ve got a question maybe you know the answer to. About a month ago Millard (North or South-unsure) played Cherry Creek (CO) and got blown the F out. Do you know if it was South or North? I’ve found conflicting info online. But my question is, if it was South and Creek whooped em that bad…wow. And if it was North, are they significantly below the level of South and, if so, why would they travel to Colorado to play one of the premier Denver metro teams?
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Millard North lost 42-0
 
JJ Husker said:
@Mavric
I’ve got a question maybe you know the answer to. About a month ago Millard (North or South-unsure) played Cherry Creek (CO) and got blown the F out. Do you know if it was South or North? I’ve found conflicting info online. But my question is, if it was South and Creek whooped em that bad…wow. And if it was North, are they significantly below the level of South and, if so, why would they travel to Colorado to play one of the premier Denver metro teams?
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As @gobiggergoredder said, it was North. They used to be a power - back in the Eric Crouch days - but now ... not so much. They are 2-4 and both Papillion-LaVista South and Millard South beat them worse than Cherry Creek did (70-7).

No idea why they thought they wanted to play that game.
 
gobiggergoredder said:
Millard North lost 42-0
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I was just looking at that more.
Things are really jacked up with HS ball. Just looking at Millard North results.

Vs Cherry Creek L 0-42
Vs Papillion L 7-51
Vs Millard South L 7-70
Vs Bryan W 56-0
Vs Lincoln East W 42-14

What a mess. I’d say things are definitely out of whack. A halfway competitive game now and then would be nice.
 
Mavric said:
As @gobiggergoredder said, it was North. They used to be a power - back in the Eric Crouch days - but now ... not so much. They are 2-4 and both Papillion-LaVista South and Millard South beat them worse than Cherry Creek did (70-7).

No idea why they thought they wanted to play that game.
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I think Millard North was one of the first teams to play an out of state team several years ago. I believe it was Cherry Creek then too. I swear it was a decade+ ago, but I can't find anything. Doesn't make much sense to continue doing this.

It was more recent than Crouch that they were relevant. Crouch graduated in 97. Millard North has won state titles in 2003, 2005, 2010, 2012 & 2015. Like I said in an earlier post, I was told last year they struggled to field a JV team and had to cancel some games.
 
The problem is in HS, there will always be the haves and the have-nots. You can't legislate equality, so you should just let parents have the freedom to pick where they want their kids to go to school. The classifications are what should change.
 
There is a lot of "recruiting" that goes on but it is parent to parent and kid to kid. The coaches, not so much.

That doesn't mean that coaches don't mention it to parents and or players.

But usually how it goes is some super involved parent will email the coaches with some "info" on kids that are coming up with his/her son and tell them how great they are at sports.

From their, the parents/kids will use that network and try to get them all to the same school.
 
By the way, years ago, while coaching middle school football, a very aggressive Dad BEGGED me to send an email/contact a Class A coaching staff where his son was going to be at for high school.

He wanted to use my "connections" to make sure the varsity staff at that school would know about his son.

I literally had no connections to that school at all, zero.
 
The best soccer and volleyball players get to college through select club play. The kids may or may not play for their school.

Football may be heading that route.
 
InOmaha said:
The best soccer and volleyball players get to college through select club play. The kids may or may not play for their school.

Football may be heading that route.
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Dude, this is so true

I have so many students that play soccer and volleyball for their club team and not the school and they get scholarships.
 
InOmaha said:
The best soccer and volleyball players get to college through select club play. The kids may or may not play for their school.

Football may be heading that route.
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Agreed- Same with baseball. To me the biggest reason is they don't have to follow state association rules regarding practice time.
 
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