Mizzou position breakdown

First off I would like to say I didn't actually watch any of the Missouri games, these are merely observations from looking purely at statistics:

Opponents: (In order of best to worst)

Nebraska Missouri

Va. Tech 3-1 Illinois (1-2) tied with Nevada (0-3) can't really tell

Louisiana-Lafayette 2-2 Bowling Green (1-3) Beat Troy

Arkansas State 1-2 (Lost to Troy) Furman (3-1)

Florida Atlantic 0-3

This is purely my opinion on each team, you may have differing opinions.

Va. Tech is easily the best team either of us has played. I'm sure they could easily lay the wood to Illinois or Nevada. I'm sure Louisiana-Lafayette wouldn't be able to take Illinois or Nevada, but Bowling Green would be a good game. Bowling Green is better than both Arkansas State and Florida Atlantics, and no doubt Furman is the worst. What does this tell us? Not much. If anything my Nebraska views would give us the edge in SOS so far.

Lets compare Arkansas State and Bowling Green.

Arkansas State lost to Troy 30-27

Bowling Green beat Troy 31-14

The only thing we can take from this is Nebraska beat Arkansas State like a drum, the same team that almost beat Troy. Missouri had a hard time beating a Bowling Green team who was losing to Troy until a third through the 4th quarter.

Deduction: Nebraska beat our 3rd best team handily and you had a hard time beating your 3rd best team. Take it for what its worth.

Nebraska took Va Tech to the 4th quarter and almost won, but we lost. Everyone is always saying how Va. Tech isn't that good of a team because they can't pass the ball. Well, I say they are a great team. By saying they are garbage cause they can't pass is total ignorance. Va. Tech has a very good defense, and some of the best special teams in the nation. Those phases count towards the game just as much as offense(although I know you Missouri fans love them some offense). Point being, we held Tech in check for almost all special teams except one play. So I would assume our special teams play is above average, how this factors into the game you can decide. We also put up 15 points against a very good defense, a defense we ran all over. So for reasonings sake, I would assume we would put up atleast 15 on Missouri, and we run the ball very effectively against you. Zac Lee struggled against Va. Tech. But I dont see him struggling more than that against Missouri. I think he has a decent game. What do we gain from this? Nebraska scores more than 15, and most likely Missouri scores less than 35. You have played bad defenses, Nebraska is definitely a step up.

Run Game:

Nebraska Wins, quite handily I would assume.

Pass Game:

Missouri Wins, but not as handily as we win the run.

Special Teams:

Nebraska Wins, we have a better kicker. Correction, two better kickers.

Conclusion: Nebraska Wins

We win two phases of the game and lose the passing game. Our passing game is not as good as yours, but its not terrible. Our running game is way better than yours, I think its easy to see that. We have one of the best field goal kickers in the nation, and he isn't too shabby of a punter either. Kunalic is good for touchbacks about 50% of the time taking away your return game.

I want to go more in depth, but I have class to get too. Maybe later.

 
carlfense said:
cheeserunza said:
To summarize your posts in this thread:

QB – Most talented ever at MU

RB – Considered by Pinkel to be the best ever at MU

WR/TE – Only slight drop off from last year (who were considered by many to be the best ever at MU)

OL – Expected to be a strength on a team (which apparently has many positions considered to be the best ever) but not living up to expectations, YET.

DL – Lots of talent and the fastest ever at MU (as good as NUs)

LB – Best ever at MU (NU’s starters might be as good as MUs backups)

DB – Too many good players to list. (probably top 3 in the conference)

A couple observations:

You are tempted to call the RB position a push based on what Washington did last year. What does last year have to do with anything?

You seem to want to give your OL (and DL for that matter) the benefit of the doubt based on youth and potential, but yet fail to recognize that NU has talented young players across the board (particularly on Defense) with huge potential as well (ie starting 2 rs freshmen lbs)

I think this post illustrates the difference between NU and MU as programs. Many of these positions on MUs current team, you have considered to be the best ever at MU. And in a game I consider to be a 50-50 contest, NU has only one player on its current roster which can be considered in the top five at his position in NU history.
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:clap

Now THAT is a good first post. Kudos.
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Thanks for the kind words. I make the rounds on these message boards, but seldomly post. This post just struck me as funny. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly fault no one for being a fan and/or a homer, I just wanted to point out that perhaps the poster wasn't being as objective as he thought he was.

 
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DocNice said:
QB

Blaine Gabbert.............. I'm glad Pinkel didn't redshirt him, because I'll be surprised if he's here for his senior year.
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Seriously? Besides the few snaps he took as a freshman, he's played in four games. The kid has talent no doubt, but that's just speaking like a true homer and nothing else matters. Way early in his career. This is as far as I read and don't feel the need to read anymore... Mizzou has the better QB, coach, fans, more lakes, taller tree's, and a higher average temperature annually than Nebraska. We don't stand a chance....yada yada

GBR

 
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I won't go position by position, but here is my breakdown.

Offense: Never sleep on an MU offense. They will score points, they will the throw the ball, and they will get yards. Gabbert will be great, but right now he is still learning. WR's are still talented even with Maclin gone. Their running game is lack luster so I don't expect a good performance against Nebraska' d-line, maybe something like 50-60 yards on the ground.

Nebraska's offense is great in the running game and strong in the passing game. The offensive line needs to be a bit more consistent. Wide receivers are good and have stopped dropping easy balls, but they still need to prove consistent on the road.

Advantage: Equal

Defense:MU has athletic guys and strong defensive ends. I expect them to have moderate to good success, but they do not have the speed across the d-line to have an effect imo. They will apply pressure, but nothing consistent. I expect the secondary to have a good game.

Suh, and that's all that is needed to be said. Nebraska's d-line is one of the best in the Big 12 and is the best in the North. The secondary is athletic, speedy, and full of hard hitters. A lot better than last year. But, as I said, I think the d-line will apply constant pressure and force Gabbert into mistakes.

Advantage:Nebraska

Special Teams:Alex Henerey is the best field goal kicker in the Big 12 and one of the better punters, proving his leg strength with a 75 yard bomb against VaTech. Coverage has also been excellent.

Advantage: Nebraska

 
Helu, top RB in the Big 12, ISU has the #2. NU has the THIRD nationally rated scoring defense... and our offense is number 12 or something. Then factor in this guy...

Nebraska (3-1) ranks third nationally in scoring defense, allowing only 7.0 points per game, which isn't all that exciting to Ndamukong Suh.

"That's all nice, but I want to be No. 1," the standout defensive tackle said Wednesday. "Because I'm assuming if we're No. 1, there'll be a national championship."

Asked to evaluate the defense's play to this point, he said, "I think we've played pretty well. I don't think we've played up to our full potential just yet, even though we've shut out one team (Louisiana-Lafayette) and held one team to three points (Florida Atlantic). I don't think we necessarily have a ton of work left to do, but we can definitely pick it up in some areas.

"In four games, we've done OK. We're 3-1. It's not where we want to be, but it's a good start."

 
Heartbeats4Huskers said:
Special Teams:

Nebraska Wins, we have a better kicker. Correction, two better kickers.
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Henery is 8 for 9 attempted FG. 88.9%

Missouri's Grant Ressel is 10 for 10. (Also 15/15 xp's) 100%

Winner: Ressel.

Not bad for the replacement for the most accurate place kicker in NCAA history, Jeff Wolfert.

Wolfert finished with an NCAA-record by making 94.9 percent of his career kicks (59-of-72 field goals, 185-of-185 extra points). John Lee held the previous record, making 93.3 percent for UCLA from 1982-85.
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http://stats.nj.com/nfldraft/players.asp?id=136043

oh...

MU's Jake Harry averages 45 yds/punt

Henery averages 42.

Just sayin'

 
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MUTigerFan said:
Heartbeats4Huskers said:
Special Teams:

Nebraska Wins, we have a better kicker. Correction, two better kickers.
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Henery is 8 for 9 attempted FG. 88.9%

Missouri's Grant Ressel is 10 for 10. (Also 15/15 xp's) 100%

Winner: Ressel.

Not bad for the replacement for the most accurate place kicker in NCAA history, Jeff Wolfert.

Wolfert finished with an NCAA-record by making 94.9 percent of his career kicks (59-of-72 field goals, 185-of-185 extra points). John Lee held the previous record, making 93.3 percent for UCLA from 1982-85.
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http://stats.nj.com/nfldraft/players.asp?id=136043
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Gotta admit though.... that kick against CU last year was an absolute thing of beauty! :horns2

 
MUTigerFan said:
Heartbeats4Huskers said:
Special Teams:

Nebraska Wins, we have a better kicker. Correction, two better kickers.
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Henery is 8 for 9 attempted FG. 88.9%

Missouri's Grant Ressel is 10 for 10. (Also 15/15 xp's) 100%

Winner: Ressel.

Not bad for the replacement for the most accurate place kicker in NCAA history, Jeff Wolfert.

Wolfert finished with an NCAA-record by making 94.9 percent of his career kicks (59-of-72 field goals, 185-of-185 extra points). John Lee held the previous record, making 93.3 percent for UCLA from 1982-85.
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http://stats.nj.com/nfldraft/players.asp?id=136043

oh...

MU's Jake Harry averages 45 yds/punt

Henery averages 42.

Just sayin'
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Is it distance of punts that matter or the net that matters?

 
MUTigerFan said:
Heartbeats4Huskers said:
Special Teams:

Nebraska Wins, we have a better kicker. Correction, two better kickers.
Click to expand...
Henery is 8 for 9 attempted FG. 88.9%

Missouri's Grant Ressel is 10 for 10. (Also 15/15 xp's) 100%

Winner: Ressel.

Not bad for the replacement for the most accurate place kicker in NCAA history, Jeff Wolfert.

Wolfert finished with an NCAA-record by making 94.9 percent of his career kicks (59-of-72 field goals, 185-of-185 extra points). John Lee held the previous record, making 93.3 percent for UCLA from 1982-85.
Click to expand...
http://stats.nj.com/nfldraft/players.asp?id=136043

oh...

MU's Jake Harry averages 45 yds/punt

Henery averages 42.

Just sayin'
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Eh. Henery's only miss was over 50 yards. Ressel hasn't even attempted one of those. I'm still giving the edge to Henery in FGs.

Punting . . . you have a point.

 
Punting averages don't necessarily matter I want to see stats on who gets it within the 20 yard line and 10 yard line more because the punter doesnt always need to kick it as hard as he can and Im willing to bet Henery is one of the most accurate punters

 
Ressel is a good kicker. Seems like most of his kicks are between 35 & 50 yards, and he's 10/10. Can't complain about that.

 
Who was the punter we had a few years back that averaged some insane number like 75% give or take inside the 20? This matters a lot more to me than the average distance.

 
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