Mizzou position breakdown

[Tora! Tora! Tora!]

how is special teams not as important. Special teams can give you good or bad field position. Special teams kicks field goals, special teams pins opponents in their own territory. and we frankly have the best specialists in the nation see Henrey (Mr. Automatic) and Big boot kunalic. and last time i checked virginia tech isn't overrated. They beat a good miami team. how good we will find out today if they beat oklahoma.

I'm curious why you think your kicker is the best in the nation? My research shows he isn't even the best in the Big12 North. Since it pertains to the upcoming game, let's compare Henrey to MU's Ressel.

RESSEL: FG 10/10 XP 15/15

HENREY: FG 8/9 XP 19/19

It would seem that Ressel would get the advantage if comparing numbers only. However, you may be using different criteria such as style points.....etc.

 

[knapplc]

how is special teams not as important. Special teams can give you good or bad field position. Special teams kicks field goals, special teams pins opponents in their own territory. and we frankly have the best specialists in the nation see Henrey (Mr. Automatic) and Big boot kunalic. and last time i checked virginia tech isn't overrated. They beat a good miami team. how good we will find out today if they beat oklahoma.

I'm curious why you think your kicker is the best in the nation? My research shows he isn't even the best in the Big12 North. Since it pertains to the upcoming game, let's compare Henrey to MU's Ressel.

RESSEL: FG 10/10 XP 15/15

HENREY: FG 8/9 XP 19/19

It would seem that Ressel would get the advantage if comparing numbers only. However, you may be using different criteria such as style points.....etc.

Ressel hasn't attempted a field goal over 50 yards. The lone miss on Henery's resume is +50 yards.

But don't trust us. Listen to the Groza Award people, if you want to know who's more highly regarded.

 

[Enhance]

how is special teams not as important. Special teams can give you good or bad field position. Special teams kicks field goals, special teams pins opponents in their own territory. and we frankly have the best specialists in the nation see Henrey (Mr. Automatic) and Big boot kunalic. and last time i checked virginia tech isn't overrated. They beat a good miami team. how good we will find out today if they beat oklahoma.

I'm curious why you think your kicker is the best in the nation? My research shows he isn't even the best in the Big12 North. Since it pertains to the upcoming game, let's compare Henrey to MU's Ressel.

RESSEL: FG 10/10 XP 15/15

HENREY: FG 8/9 XP 19/19

It would seem that Ressel would get the advantage if comparing numbers only. However, you may be using different criteria such as style points.....etc.

Ressel hasn't attempted a field goal over 50 yards. The lone miss on Henery's resume is +50 yards.

But don't trust us. Listen to the Groza Award people, if you want to know who's more highly regarded.

:yeah

These awards are better at picking who is actually the best at their respective position. Not saying they aren't subject to the same problems that Hypesman voters seem to have, but imho they do a much better job.

 

[Tora! Tora! Tora!]

how is special teams not as important. Special teams can give you good or bad field position. Special teams kicks field goals, special teams pins opponents in their own territory. and we frankly have the best specialists in the nation see Henrey (Mr. Automatic) and Big boot kunalic. and last time i checked virginia tech isn't overrated. They beat a good miami team. how good we will find out today if they beat oklahoma.

I'm curious why you think your kicker is the best in the nation? My research shows he isn't even the best in the Big12 North. Since it pertains to the upcoming game, let's compare Henrey to MU's Ressel.

RESSEL: FG 10/10 XP 15/15

HENREY: FG 8/9 XP 19/19

It would seem that Ressel would get the advantage if comparing numbers only. However, you may be using different criteria such as style points.....etc.

Ressel hasn't attempted a field goal over 50 yards. The lone miss on Henery's resume is +50 yards.

But don't trust us. Listen to the Groza Award people, if you want to know who's more highly regarded.

I'll agree that Ressel and Henrey are pretty close in comparison when you consider that Ressel hasn't had a kick of 50+ yet. However, I have a tough time conceding that Alex Henrey is the best kicker in the nation because he made the Groza Preseason watchlist with 29 other players.

 

[knapplc]

I'll agree that Ressel and Henrey are pretty close in comparison when you consider that Ressel hasn't had a kick of 50+ yet. However, I have a tough time conceding that Alex Henrey is the best kicker in the nation because he made the Groza Preseason watchlist with 29 other players.

He didn't say Henery was the best in the nation. He said the combination of Henery and Kunalic are the best in the nation. That's speculative, but I'll go so far as to say they're a pretty darned good tandem, and I haven't seen another place kicker/field goal kicker duo that I'd take over these two.

 

[RedDenver]

FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Lg Blk

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Henery, Alex 8-9 88.9 1-1 2-2 3-3 2-2 0-1 46 0

Ressel, Grant 10-10 100.0 0-0 3-3 3-3 4-4 0-0 46 0

These guys are almost equal for this season. Henery has attempted a 54 yarder that he missed, that's the only difference.

Last year:

Alex Henery 18-21 85.7 1-1 7-7 3-4 6-6 1-3 57 0

Ressel didn't kick last year. That 57 yarder by Henery last year is the main reason most NU fans think he's the best. I'd say they're equal based on performance so far.

 

[DocNice]

DocNice, you aren't talking about the same Va Tech team that passed for over 300 yards today and 2 tds. I know that you will say its against Duke and anybody could have done it, but you played Furman and anybody could have passed against them too.

The difference is I'm not trying to claim the win over Furman proves anything.

 

[DocNice]

DocNice, you aren't talking about the same Va Tech team that passed for over 300 yards today and 2 tds. I know that you will say its against Duke and anybody could have done it, but you played Furman and anybody could have passed against them too.

Is that the same Furman that passed for 300 yards against Missouri? :laughpound

Is that like giving up 358 yards to Florida Atlantic, one of the Bottom 10 teams in the country according to ESPN?

 

[BlackShirt1340]

DocNice, you aren't talking about the same Va Tech team that passed for over 300 yards today and 2 tds. I know that you will say its against Duke and anybody could have done it, but you played Furman and anybody could have passed against them too.

Is that the same Furman that passed for 300 yards against Missouri? :laughpound

Is that like giving up 358 yards to Florida Atlantic, one of the Bottom 10 teams in the country according to ESPN?

At least "one of the bottom ten teams in the country" is actually FBS division. And that was 358 TOTAL offensive yards. Mizzou gave up over 400 yards to Furman... an FCS team. :clap

 

[BigWillie]

FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Lg Blk

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Henery, Alex 8-9 88.9 1-1 2-2 3-3 2-2 0-1 46 0

Ressel, Grant 10-10 100.0 0-0 3-3 3-3 4-4 0-0 46 0

These guys are almost equal for this season. Henery has attempted a 54 yarder that he missed, that's the only difference.

Last year:

Alex Henery 18-21 85.7 1-1 7-7 3-4 6-6 1-3 57 0

Ressel didn't kick last year. That 57 yarder by Henery last year is the main reason most NU fans think he's the best. I'd say they're equal based on performance so far.

That and the fact Henery has connected on nearly 97% of all his kicks.

It's like saying you would take a kicker based on 3-4 games rather than a kicker who has proved his worth for 2+ years.

Comparing the two is nuts.

 

[DocNice]

DocNice, you aren't talking about the same Va Tech team that passed for over 300 yards today and 2 tds. I know that you will say its against Duke and anybody could have done it, but you played Furman and anybody could have passed against them too.

Is that the same Furman that passed for 300 yards against Missouri? :laughpound

Is that like giving up 358 yards to Florida Atlantic, one of the Bottom 10 teams in the country according to ESPN?

At least "one of the bottom ten teams in the country" is actually FBS division. And that was 358 TOTAL offensive yards. Mizzou gave up over 400 yards to Furman... an FCS team. :clap

Of course, all of those yards and points came against our backups. FAU got yards and points against your first team.

Oh yeah, cupcake smack.

 

[Enhance]

Of course, all of those yards and points came against our backups. FAU got yards and points against your first team.

Oh yeah, cupcake smack.

This is Nebraska's yards per half and points allowed in the first four games.

Vs. FAU:

1st Half: FAU had 231 yards. Second Half: 197

Points Allowed: 3

Vs. ASU

1st Half: ASU had 153 yards. Second Half: 156

Points Allowed: 9

Vs. VaTech

1st Half: VaTech had 125 yards. Second Half: 145

Points Allowed: 16

Vs. ULL:

1st Half: ULL had 173 yards. Second Half: 78

Points Allowed: 0

This is Missouri's yards per half and points allowed in the first four games.

Vs. ILL:

1st Half: ILL had 171 yards. Second Half: 185

Points Allowed: 9

Vs. BG:

1st Half: BG had 142 yards. Second Half: 139

Points Allowed: 20

Vs. Furman

1st Half: Furman had 121 yards. Second Half: 246

Points Allowed: 12

Vs. Nevada

1st Half: Nevada had 161 yards. Second Half: 208

Points Allowed: 21

What does all this information show us? First, yards don't mean anything. As you can see our teams gave up comparable amounts of yards, but Missouri's defense bend and broke, while Nebraska's did not.

Second, the notion that you gave up all of your yards to the second teamers was just debunked, considering you had two games where the amounts of yards given up in both halves were nearly identical. If anything, these numbers prove that Missouri's second teamers are not as good as Nebraska's, meaning we have more depth.

Third, they prove your entire post was speculation.

Numbers provided by Huskers.com and mutigers.com.

 

[DocNice]

Of course, all of those yards and points came against our backups. FAU got yards and points against your first team.

Oh yeah, cupcake smack.

This is Nebraska's yards per half and points allowed in the first four games.

Vs. FAU:

1st Half: FAU had 231 yards. Second Half: 197

Points Allowed: 3

Vs. ASU

1st Half: ASU had 153 yards. Second Half: 156

Points Allowed: 9

Vs. VaTech

1st Half: VaTech had 125 yards. Second Half: 145

Points Allowed: 16

Vs. ULL:

1st Half: ULL had 173 yards. Second Half: 78

Points Allowed: 0

This is Missouri's yards per half and points allowed in the first four games.

Vs. ILL:

1st Half: ILL had 171 yards. Second Half: 185

Points Allowed: 9

Vs. BG:

1st Half: BG had 142 yards. Second Half: 139

Points Allowed: 20

Vs. Furman

1st Half: Furman had 121 yards. Second Half: 246

Points Allowed: 12

Vs. Nevada

1st Half: Nevada had 161 yards. Second Half: 208

Points Allowed: 21

What does all this information show us? First, yards don't mean anything. As you can see our teams gave up comparable amounts of yards, but Missouri's defense bend and broke, while Nebraska's did not.

Second, the notion that you gave up all of your yards to the second teamers was just debunked, considering you had two games where the amounts of yards given up in both halves were nearly identical. If anything, these numbers prove that Missouri's second teamers are not as good as Nebraska's, meaning we have more depth.

Third, they prove your entire post was speculation.

Numbers provided by Huskers.com and mutigers.com.

That's an incomplete analysis at best. First, I specifically referenced, Furman, and those stats directly support my assertion. And you left points off your half by half analysis. Of the 52 season points, 25 of them, or nearly half, we scored after the game's outcome was clearly decided. Unlike OU, which like to pour it on until the final tick to impress voters, Mizzou plays their backups so they can get better.

 

[Enhance]

That's an incomplete analysis at best. First, I specifically referenced, Furman, and those stats directly support my assertion. And you left points off your half by half analysis. Of the 52 season points, 25 of them, or nearly half, we scored after the game's outcome was clearly decided. Unlike OU, which like to pour it on until the final tick to impress voters, Mizzou plays their backups so they can get better.

Well, the stats directly support the part I quoted from you. The quote in question did not mention Furman at all, therefore I brought in the entire non-con.

And I'm confused by your whole discussion on points. Of the 52 season points? I assume you mean the 52 points you scored against Furman, because MU has given up more than 52 points total thus far. But even if that is what you are talking about, that is not what I was discussing in my post at all. I was discussing defensive numbers and 1st team vs. 2nd team defense. So I didn't really "leave" points off my analysis, because offense wasn't part of my analysis in any way.

 

[DocNice]

That's an incomplete analysis at best. First, I specifically referenced, Furman, and those stats directly support my assertion. And you left points off your half by half analysis. Of the 52 season points, 25 of them, or nearly half, we scored after the game's outcome was clearly decided. Unlike OU, which like to pour it on until the final tick to impress voters, Mizzou plays their backups so they can get better.

Well, the stats directly support the part I quoted from you. The quote in question did not mention Furman at all, therefore I brought in the entire non-con.

And I'm confused by your whole discussion on points. Of the 52 season points? I assume you mean the 52 points you scored against Furman, because MU has given up more than 52 points total thus far. But even if that is what you are talking about, that is not what I was discussing in my post at all. I was discussing defensive numbers and 1st team vs. 2nd team defense. So I didn't really "leave" points off my analysis, because offense wasn't part of my analysis in any way.

Sorry, I meant 62. If your entire post is about your starter allowing, on average, maybe a TD more than your starters allowed against the supposed "cupcakes" of our respective schedules, I'll take that, because our "cupcakes" are a bit better IMHO. Our "cupcakes" include a mid-level BCS conference team and a team that just posted close to 800 yards of offense yesterday. The only human poll I know that ranks every team agrees with me.

Unless of course you equate stopping Florida Atlantic to stopping Juice Williams, Arrellious Benn and Jared Fayson. Or perhaps I missed the game where your best cupcake, Arkansas State, posted 500 yards rushing?