Pedro Guerrero
Team HuskerBoard
I don't know if I would say he was overrated. If he would of actually played a down then maybe. He is guilty of being overhyped.IMO
Most Underrated/Overrated Player
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junior4949
All-American
I have several overrated and underrated players, but really they are just from the last 10-20 years because well I just don't remember near as much prior to 1990.
Overrated: Ruud, Tomich, Broderick Thomas, Goodowski (sp), Steve Taylor, Mickie Joseph, Shanle, Rioli (sp), Bourboom (sp), Diangilo Evans, Thunder Collins, Horne, Franky London, Buckhalter, Johnny Mitchell, Christian Peters, Carlos Polk, Judd Davies.
Note: Some I these I believe were overrated from their play, and some of these were overated as to the hype when they first came to Nebraska ( a lot of hype very little achievement).
Underrated: Terrell Farley, Mike Croel, Mike Minter, Jason Peters, Will Shields, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer, Ahman Greene, Cory Schlesinger, Aaron Taylor, Rob Zateska (sp), Connealy, Tyrone Williams, Kris Brown (yes a kicker), Wilson Thomas.
Overrated: Ruud, Tomich, Broderick Thomas, Goodowski (sp), Steve Taylor, Mickie Joseph, Shanle, Rioli (sp), Bourboom (sp), Diangilo Evans, Thunder Collins, Horne, Franky London, Buckhalter, Johnny Mitchell, Christian Peters, Carlos Polk, Judd Davies.
Note: Some I these I believe were overrated from their play, and some of these were overated as to the hype when they first came to Nebraska ( a lot of hype very little achievement).
Underrated: Terrell Farley, Mike Croel, Mike Minter, Jason Peters, Will Shields, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer, Ahman Greene, Cory Schlesinger, Aaron Taylor, Rob Zateska (sp), Connealy, Tyrone Williams, Kris Brown (yes a kicker), Wilson Thomas.
rawhide
Team HuskerBoard
The only players overrated were the ones who thought they were better than the team. Any names come to mind?
The underrated players were the players who said they were just part of the team.
They had the concept down right. TEAM not me me me me me me me
THEY WERE ALL HUSKERS
:horns2
GBR
okay okay maybe dukes was a wash do u need a gun to your head to workout???????
Nah I understand he wanted to know he was making progress.
The underrated players were the players who said they were just part of the team.
They had the concept down right. TEAM not me me me me me me me
THEY WERE ALL HUSKERS
:horns2
GBR
okay okay maybe dukes was a wash do u need a gun to your head to workout???????
Nah I understand he wanted to know he was making progress.
StuckinChicago
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I disagree about Tomich being overrated. That was the one thing I see that is so very different about recent defenses and the ones of the national championship years. When Wistrom and Tomich rushed the passer, both were immediately past the tackles and into the backfield. Our passrush generated from the front four, including christian and tomich was unbelievable compared to now. I would say that all four performed at least up to expectations, if not well past them.
Pedro Guerrero
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Every single one of these guys were an All American. Riaola won the Rimington award and has his freakin jerssey retired. The Sandman was an All American twice.(note check out the other topic about biggest busts to see sandman stats)
newearth...
If the definition is that they had to get on the field then I would agree that Dukes was "overhyped" and not "overrated"
How about these for being underrated?
Andy Means and Todd Brown...two Holdrege lads who came to NU and contributed mightily in the late 70s and 80s.
Overrated....
Dave Gillespie (and as a recruiting coordinator/coach)
Frank Patrick...QB in the late 60s
If the definition is that they had to get on the field then I would agree that Dukes was "overhyped" and not "overrated"
How about these for being underrated?
Andy Means and Todd Brown...two Holdrege lads who came to NU and contributed mightily in the late 70s and 80s.
Overrated....
Dave Gillespie (and as a recruiting coordinator/coach)
Frank Patrick...QB in the late 60s
NamelessHusker
Banned
In MY opinion, something's wrong with you if you think Tomich was overrated, but its your opinion. Just have to say that i think you are way off base on that
junior4949
All-American
Okay, I'm catching some fire for at least 3 of my selections being overrated. I'll try to explain.
Tomich: He had an oustanding season his junior year. He had a tremendous amount of hype going into his senior year, but he really never lived up to expectations. I don't believe he was an All American his senior year, but rather his junior year (he may have been second team or honorable mention, i don't remember). Granted, he did see more double teams his senior year, and this is probably why Whistrom really emerged as our powerful DE that year. After Tomich's outstanding junior year, he just kind of fell off into obscurity. He would have went a lot higher in the draft if he'd have left his junior year instead of coming back and playing his senior year.
Broderick Thomas: If Broderick would have even played half as much as he ran his mouth, he would have been a monster. He was a pile flopper, and really wasn't a dominant force on the field. Give me Farley any day over Thomas. Farley was a game changer, and Broderick was good for a good laugh. Even though he was Mike Singletary's nephew, he couldn't even hold Singletary's jock strap. He was way over hyped and overrated!
Rioli: The only thing he was good for was getting into fights both during games and during practice. He was a hot head who lost his temper when he got beat. He was not a team player, and it showed during practice when he was ripping helmets off and punching teammates.
I probably look at things differently than most when looking at overrated and underrated players. I could throw a name out from another school I consider vastly overrated and that was Andy Katzemoyer (sp) from Ohio State. Yes, he had great numbers at Ohioi State, but he was terribly exposed in the NFL. With the hype he had, he was a huge disappointment. Another flop was Courtney Brown. I mean the guy ran a 4.6 40 and he weighed 300 pounds, but he really isn't very impressive at all at the next level when he should be a stud. Tony Manderich was another over hyped lineman from the college ranks that stunk it up in the pros. I realize some of my underrated players never made it in the pros, but most of them when they came to Nebraska were completely under the radar. Even though Farley messed up his life and career, he was a complete stud on the field. He was a game changer. Wilson Thomas probably won't make much of a pro, but he could have if he'd have gone to another school to play college football. I don't know if anyone remembers the game when Crouch ran like an 80 yard touchdown. We all know how fast Crouch was, but Thomas outran him to the endzone. He was tall, and he was fast. He could have been a game changer if he'd have been used right.
We all have our different opinions as to what players are overrated and those who are underrated. I try to take how much hype surrounded each player and how they performed compared to that hype to determine overrated or underrated.
Tomich: He had an oustanding season his junior year. He had a tremendous amount of hype going into his senior year, but he really never lived up to expectations. I don't believe he was an All American his senior year, but rather his junior year (he may have been second team or honorable mention, i don't remember). Granted, he did see more double teams his senior year, and this is probably why Whistrom really emerged as our powerful DE that year. After Tomich's outstanding junior year, he just kind of fell off into obscurity. He would have went a lot higher in the draft if he'd have left his junior year instead of coming back and playing his senior year.
Broderick Thomas: If Broderick would have even played half as much as he ran his mouth, he would have been a monster. He was a pile flopper, and really wasn't a dominant force on the field. Give me Farley any day over Thomas. Farley was a game changer, and Broderick was good for a good laugh. Even though he was Mike Singletary's nephew, he couldn't even hold Singletary's jock strap. He was way over hyped and overrated!
Rioli: The only thing he was good for was getting into fights both during games and during practice. He was a hot head who lost his temper when he got beat. He was not a team player, and it showed during practice when he was ripping helmets off and punching teammates.
I probably look at things differently than most when looking at overrated and underrated players. I could throw a name out from another school I consider vastly overrated and that was Andy Katzemoyer (sp) from Ohio State. Yes, he had great numbers at Ohioi State, but he was terribly exposed in the NFL. With the hype he had, he was a huge disappointment. Another flop was Courtney Brown. I mean the guy ran a 4.6 40 and he weighed 300 pounds, but he really isn't very impressive at all at the next level when he should be a stud. Tony Manderich was another over hyped lineman from the college ranks that stunk it up in the pros. I realize some of my underrated players never made it in the pros, but most of them when they came to Nebraska were completely under the radar. Even though Farley messed up his life and career, he was a complete stud on the field. He was a game changer. Wilson Thomas probably won't make much of a pro, but he could have if he'd have gone to another school to play college football. I don't know if anyone remembers the game when Crouch ran like an 80 yard touchdown. We all know how fast Crouch was, but Thomas outran him to the endzone. He was tall, and he was fast. He could have been a game changer if he'd have been used right.
We all have our different opinions as to what players are overrated and those who are underrated. I try to take how much hype surrounded each player and how they performed compared to that hype to determine overrated or underrated.
Pedro Guerrero
Team HuskerBoard
Here are the some of the stats about Sandman that I posted before. I don't get the pile flopper. Wouldn't he have more assisted tackle then unassisted? I guess that's your opinion. I don't agree with it but what are you going to do. :thumbs
He also holds the record at NU for the most unassisted tackles in a season(career total also) for a DE. I think it said he had 53 out of his 98 tackles that were unassisted. That 98 total tackles is also a DE season record. He also holds the DE season(career total also) record for Fumble recoveries and Tackle for loss yardage. He had 11 sacks one year and he is #12 in total tackles at NU.
He also holds the record at NU for the most unassisted tackles in a season(career total also) for a DE. I think it said he had 53 out of his 98 tackles that were unassisted. That 98 total tackles is also a DE season record. He also holds the DE season(career total also) record for Fumble recoveries and Tackle for loss yardage. He had 11 sacks one year and he is #12 in total tackles at NU.
junior4949
All-American
Yeah, I believe that was the play. When Crouch broke free, Thomas was about 5 yards behind him. When they got to the endzone, Thomas was in front of Crouch. He could have been a stud if he'd have gone to a Florida school to play ball. He had it all: height, weight, strength, and especially speed. I don't know about his hands as we really didn't get the ball much to him. He probably was the biggest waste of talent to ever leave Nebraska along with Willie Amos. However, injuries are what cost Amos.
Crouch was faster in college than Thomas. I don't know Thomas' 40 time, but Crouch ran a 4.47 which I believe was the fastest or one of the fastest on the team in 01. Also on that play he ran about 140 yards and made multiple defenders miss, and was pretty exhausted at the end, so don't judge his speed on that play.
Eric the Red
Team HuskerBoard
Nah it was a 95 yard TD.
