My take on what needs to be done to right this ship...

FLU said:
Saying that no other coach will want to come here, if we fire a coach who just had a 9-win season, is pure BS. Money talks.
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What coach would be available at the end of the year that would be worth the millions of dollars you are proposing we spend on them? An SEC coach isn't about to head here over what they've got going on down there, we couldn't afford to pay them a salary worth having them leave that perfect situation.

 
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No way we'd have a shot at any of those big names. I think we'd be lucky to get names like Gary Patterson, Art Briles or Dan Mullen.

 
And why don't we have a shot? Why? If that's the general consensus, then we might as well as just throw in the towel now. Everybody has a price.

 
corncraze said:
No way we'd have a shot at any of those big names. I think we'd be lucky to get names like Gary Patterson, Art Briles or Dan Mullen.
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Exactly. The best coaches in the country are at exceptional football universities with a lot of money and great recruiting capabilities. What coach out there who isn't already in a perfect situation would come here and be worth more than what we're paying Pelini? It's not a simple matter of "we have the money, let's throw it at someone." That could inflict terrible damage.

 
Chris Petersen could be bought out. Of course, if we have the mentality that "Oh, he'll never come here" without even trying, then it's all just a waste of time. What happened to the high expectations and standard of excellence that this program used to demand? Seems like they've all gone out the window and replaced with a "We can't do this/"that'll never happen" attitude.

 
<<It's not a simple matter of "we have the money, let's throw it at someone." That could inflict terrible damage.>>

I disagree.

Then again, it all depends on who you throw the money at.

 
FLU said:
And why don't we have a shot? Why? If that's the general consensus, then we might as well as just throw in the towel now. Everybody has a price.
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Again, WHO are you proposing? Who? What coach out there is worth the millions of dollars you want to throw at him like candy? What coach is worth the same as or more than Pelini, and would be worth the high salary? The best coaches in the country (Miles, Saban) are NOT going to leave the SEC no matter the money we throw at them, mainly because we don't have the money to throw at them. They already make boat loads more than Pelini, have far better locales and significantly better recruiting possibilities.

So, that means you'd have to find a coach at a lesser university or a coordinator from a big time university (or, you'd have to fish around the NFL). But, again, it's ludicrous to throw more money at them than what we're giving Pelini, especially when that coach could end up being worse.

 
FLU said:
Chris Petersen could be bought out. Of course, if we have the mentality that "Oh, he'll never come here" without even trying, then it's all just a waste of time. What happened to the high expectations and standard of excellence that this program used to demand? Seems like they've all gone out the window and replaced with a "We can't do this/"that'll never happen" attitude.
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Colorado hired the last Boise State head coach, and he ended up being abysmal.

There are no certainties in college football.

Next?

 
I've already thrown out a bunch of names. Chris Petersen and Bobby Petrino, just to name a couple. And who says that NU doesn't have the money to throw at someone? That is ludicrous.

 
Say what you want about Petrino, but the guy is a proven winner. Also, while I agree that nothing is a given, at least Petersen has a proven track record.

 
FLU said:
Chris Petersen could be bought out. Of course, if we have the mentality that "Oh, he'll never come here" without even trying, then it's all just a waste of time. What happened to the high expectations and standard of excellence that this program used to demand? Seems like they've all gone out the window and replaced with a "We can't do this/"that'll never happen" attitude.
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He will not leave Boise State, because of his son. He is certainly a special circumstance. With everything he's been through and how that university stuck by his family's side throughout that whole time, no way he'll leave, especially to a Nebraska program that let go of a coach who went to two conference championship in five years, who won (probably) at least nine wins each year and who went to a late bowl game every year. What coach in their right mind would take that job?!

 
You act as though I'm saying that this needs to happen right now. I said that something like this should happen if we regress, getting less than 9 wins in a season.

So basically, you're saying that we stick with Bo, no matter what, pretty much because we're "stuck" with him because nobody else would want to come here.

 
FLU said:
Say what you want about Petrino, but the guy is a proven winner. Also, while I agree that nothing is a given, at least Petersen has a proven track record.
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So did Dan Hawkins. I realize each coach is different and so is each situation, but no coach is a given winner regardless of the school he is hired to.

Again, what coach is worth more than Pelini? Is Petrino really worth a similar or slightly more gracious salary than Pelini, given his irresponsible past? He was a winner, but what lengths do you want us to go to in order to win?

Look, all I'm saying is this - we're not going to get a guy like Saban, Stoops, or Miles to leave their situations, so they're out of the picture. Money can't buy what they've got. Saban already makes almost $6 million. We're not going to pay a coach $9 million, which is probably what it would take. This means we'd have to fish the NFL ranks, find a good college coordinator, a fired coach (Petrino), or a head coach at a lesser division one university. The problem, of course, is that there are no guarantees in football. You hire a guy here and he could be better, he could be worse. If he's worse, you continue to play coaching carousel. If he's better, go you, you got lucky.

I don't think we've reached a point to risk our university on another coach yet.

 
How much money are we dumping into the basketball program again? Let's see.......how much money do even the most successful basketball programs bring in? Hmm.......we can afford to dump hundreds of millions into a bottom-dweller program that will never give us a return on investment (even if Miles can turn us into the second coming of Kansas), but we can't drop money on the football program for top-tier coaches? Pfft....

Flu, I hear exactly what you're saying, but you're pissing up a rope with this bunch. Nebraska wants to pay for performance--NOT before, so we're going to be forever stuck gambling on unproven commodities rather than spending more money up front to help reduce the risk of failure. All I know is that at best I only have so many more decades to live.

 
The big coaching names I currently see that are not at big programs already would be -

Peterson - won't leave BSU because of his son, just ask UCLA

Gruden - how did our last NFL coach work out? Also, why would he leave his gig at ESPN?

Cowher - severely doubt he leaves CBS, otherwise why wouldn't he be coaching an NFL team already

Mike Bellotti - Does he really want to come back to coaching though?

Ferentz - Can't recruit and probably will never leave Iowa

Saban, Miles, Kelly, Kiffin & Meyer are already taken.

Troy Calhoun may be a good hire, but I wouldn't consider him elite and I'm not even sure he'd leave Air Force. He didn't for Tennessee...

Our other wishful thinking options could include Patterson (who probably won't leave TCU), Briles, Mullen (why would he leave the SEC?), Fitzgerald (but we won't take another coach from the Big Ten probably & he might not leave Northwestern anyways) and Gundy (won't leave OSU).

There are some big name coordinators out there with no head coaching experience, but hiring one of them would be an awful lot like hiring Bo.

Am I missing anyone?

 
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