NCAA to Investigate Michigan State/Nassar

Is this was a complete and utter disregard for student safety to protect the athletic department would this not go miles beyond PSU and Baylor? It looks like both PSU and Baylor combined. They need to be booted from the B1G if this all comes to be true. I have a feeling they are going to uncover much more at MSU as this continues. 

 
Allswede told Outside the Lines that about seven years ago, an attorney from the university's general counsel's department came to her office to try to reassure her that coaches were taking allegations of sexual violence seriously. Allswede said the attorney told her how Dantonio had dealt with a sexual assault accusation against one of his players: He had the player talk to his mother about what he had done.

"That did not reassure me at all," Allswede said in the Outside the Lines report. "There's no guarantee that that had any effect, any help, whatever."
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/22235975/former-michigan-state-counselor-says-mark-dantonio-needs-accept-individual-responsibility

 
Watching the E 60 special on it this AM....They consistently hid accusations encouraged victims to not press charges. Fought like hell to keep info out of the public eye even when freedom of information act happened. 

When the dept of ed was investigating they did not hand over any of their Nasser info etc. 

Players were "punished" internally or not at all for their actions. 

ESPN had to sue MSU to get public police reports. 

Burn this place down....

 
What I don't get is why?

Individuals do awful things. They exist everywhere. Their association with MSU wouldn't have hurt MSU if they had dealt with it in the proper way.

 
Moiraine said:
What I don't get is why?

Individuals do awful things. They exist everywhere. Their association with MSU wouldn't have hurt MSU if they had dealt with it in the proper way.
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Exactly, I just really hope they set the ultimate example with MSU, they have no business having an athletic department from what is being uncovered. 

 
Nassar's lawyer Shannon Smith

“There were girls who had perfectly normal lives that never questioned the medical treatment done by Larry Nassar — and there is a legitimate medical treatment that involves touching sensitive areas and even penetrations,” Smith told WWJ Legal Analyst Charlie Langton. “Some of those girls, to be quite frank, they didn’t even know what to think because they never felt victimized. He was never inappropriate to them. And because of everything they’ve seen, they just feel like they must have been victimized. And I think that’s really unfortunate.”
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“I have a very hard time believing that my client could have even possibly assaulted that many people day in and day out in front of their parents, and that every single one of those things was a crime, but he was such a manipulator he got away with it. I just can’t imagine that’s true,” she said. “As much as they were allowed to speak at sentencing, and that was something we agreed to, even during the sentencing, more and more people were coming forward thinking ‘I was fine my whole life and now all of a sudden I have realized I was a survivor.’ I think that’s really sad.”
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“We had some issues in the case,” she said. “And there was also a lot of child pornography that could not be refuted. There’s facts and information that I would never share with the public, nor could I share with the public, and so at the end of the day it was really his decision.”
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First of all, she didn't have to talk about the case. So I'm going to treat her as a person instead of Nassar's lawyer. She also might be voicing what other people have thought about before.

And she's a complete moron.

It really doesn't matter if, at 12,13,14, these girls didn't feel victimized. At that age it never enters most girls' minds that there are older men that are attracted to them. They likely assume it's "ew" for the old man just as much as it is for them. Old men are father figures, not boyfriends. So it never occurs to them that a man might go home after talking to them, or in this case giving them a medical exam that involves touching their genital area, and get off on it. But they can definitely feel victimized at age 25 when they realize this perverted man was getting off on touching them when they were girls, and also when they realize he wasn't doing it for any medical reason. I believe the ones that made accusations against him were older and knew what was going on. E.g. the MSU student athletes.

During a January 20 interview with NPR, Denhollander recalled discussions other gymnasts had about medical visits with Nassar. "The conclusion was, 'Well, this must be medical treatment, because he'd never be allowed near us if it wasn't.' And as a 15-year-old, that was my thought process," she said.
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It's okay to feel victimized 10 years later when you find out why he was doing it.

I had a friend who had a dad who would tickle torture me even when I told him to stop, and it hurt when he did it. No one else I knew did this to me, and no one else tickled me in a way that hurt. At the time he was just an annoying old guy I didn't want to be around. Years later it has entered my mind he used tickling as an excuse to touch me. Maybe that wasn't it at all and it was innocent, but if I were to find out he did it to every girl aged 8-12 he ever met and had a stash of child porn, I would be pretty damn sure that is what was going on. That's like 1/1000th of what happened to these girls but it reminds me of it.

 
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  Most criminals might not have much, but what many of the do have are daughters.  Good luck with that, Larry.  

 
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