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Probably because we're paying for all of those unnecessary apostrophes we're using.Again. Nebraskan's are some of the worst tipper's in North America.
Probably because we're paying for all of those unnecessary apostrophes we're using.Again. Nebraskan's are some of the worst tipper's in North America.
Probably because we're paying for all of those unnecessary apostrophes we're using.Again. Nebraskan's are some of the worst tipper's in North America.
The Apostrophists are no doubt behind this in part of some larger price-gouging scheme.Probably because we're paying for all of those unnecessary apostrophes we're using.Again. Nebraskan's are some of the worst tipper's in North America.
Pardon's me'sProbably because we're paying for all of those unnecessary apostrophes we're using.Again. Nebraskan's are some of the worst tipper's in North America.
No? Nobody?Here's a question:
Do you tip 20% on alcohol, particularly, say, a $500 of wine?
Or do you separate it from food and do a flat tip for wine (e.g., $10 to $20 tip per bottle) or per drink (e.g., $2 per drink).
The problem with this is they are paid $3. Don't compare it to other jobs like it's similar.Funny the differing opinions on this. IMO, doing your job does not justify a tip. No. Doing your job very well, then yes. Just because you are a waiter/waitress whatever, does not qualify you for a tip. Reward for disrespect or bad service? nope. I don't care if that's how they make their living. They chose the job, period. People don't deserve rewards for every little thing, just like kids don't. That's what has gotten society to where it's at today. Lower work ethic because of participation trophies, tips just to tip, happy feel good crap. Do the job well and you will be rewarded! Just like in sports! And trashing a team or anything like that is not something a waiter should be discussing outloud! Almost every job you have to be careful what you say and where/when. It's no different. That's disrespect. I wouldn't have tipped the guy either. Not a penny.
And yet, people somehow prefer to stay in the professions you mentioned rather than flock to the waitressing jobs that apparently offer easy money and a sense of entitlement.There are plenty of professions paid a salary and are not compensated "minimum wage." Do retail workers working on commission make minimum wage if they don't make sales? Do you tip them for helping you if you don't buy anything? Many teachers work more hours than their salary pays for. High school coaches make less than minimum wages when you figure out their pay divided by hours. If you own your own small business and aren't selling product, are you making more than minimum wage?.
Benefits are nice.And yet, people somehow prefer to stay in the professions you mentioned rather than flock to the waitressing jobs that apparently offer easy money and a sense of entitlement.There are plenty of professions paid a salary and are not compensated "minimum wage." Do retail workers working on commission make minimum wage if they don't make sales? Do you tip them for helping you if you don't buy anything? Many teachers work more hours than their salary pays for. High school coaches make less than minimum wages when you figure out their pay divided by hours. If you own your own small business and aren't selling product, are you making more than minimum wage?.
I wonder why that is?....
Thanks for the welcome.Welcome to the board! I'm glad this topic pissed you off enough to start posting. The same story might be said for many of us here...I discovered this board this year and I've been following it as a guest and decided to finally make a profile. I guess this topic is what spurred me to join this craziness.
First, I've worked in payroll for years for small restaurants that would outsource their payrolls. No waiter/waitress makes less than minimum wage EVER. They can work 40 hours a week, make no tips, and still get paid minimum wage. It's the employer's responsibility to meet the difference between the $2.13/hr they make and the minimum wage (currently $8/hr but moving to $9/hr soon).
Because of this experience, I do not automatically tip no matter how the server performed. I tip 15-18% if the service was what I expected and then go more/less depending on how much better or worse they performed.
I agree with the choice that BR didn't provide a tip for someone who insulted him (with the truth). However, I don't believe that he should go bragging on social media about it and he ended up getting his just desserts.
Citation for tipped minimum wage law: http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/q-a.htm (read the 2nd Q&A)
And thanks for the link! The employer having to pay the difference up to minimum wage is something I hadn't realized. Still. There are a lot of minimum wage jobs that suck less than the crap that waitresses/ waiters have to put up with. If tipping was ended or banned (as it is in some parts of the world) you know as well as I do that servers at restaurants would have to be paid better than minimum wage. And the prices at restaurants would reflect the higher cost of doing business.
Back to the BR topic, I think most of us posting here actually agree on the fact that it was OK for him to not tip, dumb of him to post the picture. The thing I really hate is when people who have never worked for tips think that they shouldn't EVER have to tip, unless they get some super-special over-the-top service. Like Mr Pink. I have seen this more with wealthy people than poor, in my experience. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
I don't bother to try to remove the alcohol from the bill and then tip only on food. I would feel pretty low class about doing something like that. If you can afford the $500 bottle of wine you can afford the tip on it. Now granted, the most I've ever paid for a meal with alcohol was around $500 for two people so no $500 bottle of wine there. That said, I did have several expensive drinks and still tipped on them...No? Nobody?Here's a question:
Do you tip 20% on alcohol, particularly, say, a $500 of wine?
Or do you separate it from food and do a flat tip for wine (e.g., $10 to $20 tip per bottle) or per drink (e.g., $2 per drink).