Nebraska's Chance Against Our Schedule
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Trick plays take advantage of defenses that react quickly and aggressively
A slow responding or "slow playing on purpose" defense rarely give up trick plays- they dont pursue aggressively towards where the offense WANTS them to run which is away from where the ball will really end up attacking
Note on a related topic that most teams dont bother to screen, trap or reverse against NU- those plays dont work against teams whose front 4 dont play aggressively.
Football 202 stuff, pretty basic
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Im telling you ABSOLUTLEY NOT
What I explained to you is what a guy coaching Pee Wee football in his second year would know
It's basic universal football knowledge, it's second level stuff after you learn the proper 3 point stance and how to perform a basic form tackle fit
If you played College Football you would know it
If you played football for a well coached HS team and payed attention you would know it
If you went to a single basic well run coaching clinic, you would know it
Not a debateable point
The 2 gaps scheme by definition is a read and react defense- our front 4 arent flying around- heck sometimes they are 1 yard off the LOS
When you are consistently being gashed by basic zone and power plays, there is no need for trick plays
Guys who DO NOT fly around to the ball do NOT get beat by the below plays.
If Im an OC for the other team it MAKES NO SENSE to call anything like a screen, trap, waggle, boot, shovel or reverse agains this type of offense- HENCE you havent seen them. EVERYONE KNOWS NOT to run that type of stuff against this type of defense. They would be suboptimal plays
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Redux
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Again, I understand the logic. You can coach speak it all you want. If the guys up front dont know how to react to something theyve never seen, a big gain CAN happen. The talent is raw, but the progress is obvious. I think they will be able to do enough to win.
True they are normaly a yard away from the line of scrimmage. But if they leave a window open regardless of pressure or a lack thereof, you can get burned. Just because the playbook says a+b=c doesnt mean it will develop that way. If it did Sportscenter top ten would be boring.
True they are normaly a yard away from the line of scrimmage. But if they leave a window open regardless of pressure or a lack thereof, you can get burned. Just because the playbook says a+b=c doesnt mean it will develop that way. If it did Sportscenter top ten would be boring.
mrandyk
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Its NOT coach speak
Talk to 100 High School coaches
Talk to 100 College coaches
You will get 200 of the same exact answer
In the football coaching world that concept is as basic as 2+2= 4, it's not debateable
Let me invite you to the next coaching clinic in the area, please go and ask that question and see what you hear
Again WHY DONT TEAMS SCREEN, WAGGLE, BOOT, TRAP, SHOVEL, REVERSE against us? Huh? It's because of what Ive been trying to explain to you.
BTW- a Jet sweep despite what the yahoos on TV call is it NOT a reverse or even an end around. Unfortunately many TV announcers are entertainers and dont understand let alone try and explain the game. So TV learners dont get much help.
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True2tRA
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The coaches and players have been talking all week about having their eyes up and looking in the right position. How much them losing their keys and not seeing things correctly can affect the outcome of a play. A trick play is designed to fool your eyes and confuse you on your keys.....so you have the players and the coaches saying it.
In conclusion, people here will argue with your point even if the coaches and players have already made your point for you. So yes, it is far easier to just agree with these people. Unless your stubborn like me and just won't give in.
I dont care if you agree
By not agreeing- you show you dont know even the basics. You are saying 2+2= 5, again these are really basic concepts all coaches know, not debateable. The SCHEME and base technique dictate the first lavel of what you call and dont call. You dont call "trickeration" type plays against that type defense, that is why you havent seen it and why you usually dont see it.
You refused to answer why no teams have run all those screens, traps, boots, reverses, shovels, waggles against us- These guys get paid a lot of money and have 100s of years of combined coaching under their belt. BUT those plays you have in your back pocket that you just know would work against these kids, yet NO ONE has bothered running them. You need to go to UCLA, SDSU, SM and WY and get on the payroll. Maybe they just didnt want to win and didnt know what to call.
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True2tRA
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Assistant Coach
I can tell you exactly why our 4 opponents didnt run an oopty oop or a swizzle stick. Because S.Miss is on a 15 game losing streak and doesnt know how to do anything effective enough to win.
Wyoming has a QB who made a statement against us by showcasing his skills, not the coachds go to desperation plays.
UCLA probably could have run two plays total to be effective against us and oh yeah Hundley pretty much just had his way with us. Why pull out somethin fancy when basics work.
And SDSU.......they probably arent familiar with the concept.
TaKe a chill pill and tell me how a freshman is going to stop the oom pappa mow mow.
Unfortunately the TV does a very poor job of educating fans
For starters, go to Fritz Schumers book on defense and oldy but a goody- then buy 200 more books DVDs and attend 200+ clinics- then go back and play 4 years of HS football and 4 years of college football. then you might know about 1/2 of what these guys know
Again, taking this any further with someone who doest know that 2+2= 4 - the basics, again pointless
SDSU's coaches dont know about trick plays
Yep, 150+ years of combined coaching experience, clinics, etc and they dont know about trick plays, gotcha
NONE of these guys know about screens, traps, reverses, waggles, shovels, dipsy doodle trick plays? Gotcha
I TOLD you why and again this is stuff the local YMCA 4th grade coach knows- it's basic universal football knowledge
Its something that would be equivalent of what maybe a 2nd grader would learn in the second half of his school year- elementary.
For starters, go to Fritz Schumers book on defense and oldy but a goody- then buy 200 more books DVDs and attend 200+ clinics- then go back and play 4 years of HS football and 4 years of college football. then you might know about 1/2 of what these guys know
Again, taking this any further with someone who doest know that 2+2= 4 - the basics, again pointless
SDSU's coaches dont know about trick plays
NONE of these guys know about screens, traps, reverses, waggles, shovels, dipsy doodle trick plays? Gotcha
I TOLD you why and again this is stuff the local YMCA 4th grade coach knows- it's basic universal football knowledge
Its something that would be equivalent of what maybe a 2nd grader would learn in the second half of his school year- elementary.
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Redux
Assistant Coach
Lol sorry couldnt help myself. In other words you are trying to showcase your vast knowledge of schemes, formations and gameplans. Got it. You sir have a grander knowledge of the game than I, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
Now you are trying to argue for no apparent reason. The original point I was trying to get across was; will our young Defense be able to adjust properly to stop a play they werent prepared for? The answer is a humble Not Likely. Im sorry that got misconstrued and my IQ of the game had to be brought into question.
Now you are trying to argue for no apparent reason. The original point I was trying to get across was; will our young Defense be able to adjust properly to stop a play they werent prepared for? The answer is a humble Not Likely. Im sorry that got misconstrued and my IQ of the game had to be brought into question.
Just trying to educate you as to why your premise makes no sense to anyone who has ever coached a HS or College game. Almost like a guy walking out of the bathroom with toilet paper hanging fom his shoe- you do the right thing and tell him
This is what you said, your exact words- which you went on to try and backup and that is 100% inaccurrate from a basic defensive phylosophy standpoint
Like saying the world is flat type thing
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