Nebraska's Michael Rose-Ivey receives racial backlash for anthem protest
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I will gladly give you the name of the guy teaching at CCC-Platte who asks me to come talk every year. I can give you the number for the Columbus Rescue Mission and you can talk to the Chaplain there. I can also line you up with Mayor Mike Moser and see if he remembers me going around with police chief Gumm on whether he can "ruin someone's day".
However, if my "background check" proves out, will you disappear from the forum for a year? I mean, if you call a bluff in poker and it's not a bluff, you lose, right? That will be YOUR skin in the game. Are we on, Landlord? Put up or shut up time! I'll disappear forever if it doesn't check out.
Do any of the moderators want to "referee" this bet, so it can be validated by a neutral party?
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Landlord
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You misunderstand my point. I'm not casting doubt on what you say you've done. I believe you. Basically, I'm saying you should shut up about what Michael Rose-Ivey is or is not doing, because you as a total stranger really have no idea what he's up to that doesn't happen to be highly publicized.
Well if Rose-Ivey is doing something constructive and out of the public eye, that's a positive thing. The kneeling thing, not so much.
We can agree on the former and have a disagreement on the latter.
My apologies for misreading your post as calling me out. Much of my churlishness about such things comes from the feeling that the needs around us so far outnumber those willing to address them to the point it seems a losing battle. A person could use up all of their time and money and energy and not even make a dent, so it seems.
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Landlord
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Tell me, where would YOU personally see MRI with trash bags on a Saturday morning? Do you hang out at the police station to see him talking with them?
Because it sure seems like you're insinuating that he isn't doing any of these things, and even if you're not, which you totally are, you're framing this insane scenario where MRI and others aren't accomplishing anything unless you personally witness it.
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Jim Hammer
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Try reading and comprehending your links. Saying "All lives matter" is dismissing minorities that don't enjoy many of the same privileges as white people.
I think you are missing the main point of this thread is that nobody else is required to give you a venue to exercise the First Amendment...not on a website, not in a newspaper, not on the radio, and not in a stadium. Nobody owes anybody else a stage, and if they barge in on anybody else's, then they deserve to get thrown off of it. That especially includes blocking traffic and shutting down bridges and ruining public events.
So is it still cute if I don't think you are stating an opinion but instead are just plain a$$ wrong?
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If you know of something he is doing, please share, but don't expect me to prove a negative. We both know that is impossible.
My guess is that we would have heard of it by now through the Husker media, since we heard of Abdullah's and McMullen's and Burkhead's service to the community. I find it odd that they would do a media black out on good press for Rose-Ivey (especially Rose-Ivey) if he was doing something, don't you? I mean, he hasn't shunned the spotlight yet that I have seen. Since he has shared all of his tweets with us, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have tweets and facebook photos and what not of everything else happening in his life.
Like I said, if he is doing something concrete, great. My take throughout life has been "When all is said and done, more is said than done." Doesn't fit all people every time. Might not fit Rose-Ivey.
I witnessed his kneeling theatrics I and am saying that it accomplished nothing of import or lasting significance. In fact, I think at this juncture it was counterproductive and caused dissent and conflict where none need exist.
Evidently, you think it was some watershed moment in American history. I don't, and we probably won't find common ground here.
Last word is to you and that guy who thinks I'm cute.
I saw the above on my way out.
Since the above is in quotes, then you are saying someone else said the above word for word, right? You took it directly out of someone's post, just as it appears?
Otherwise, you are making sh#t up and then arguing that point. That is called "setting up a straw man and knocking it down". Is that what you did here?
I guess twisting the truth is a protected form of free speech as well. I just wonder if you were kneeling when you did it. That counts for extra these days. Makes you a better person, I hear.
zoogs
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The real watershed moment of American history is what Bowfin has done. If you don't believe him, ask the Mayor. He'll even volunteer to leave the board for a year if he's wrong. In my experience, people willing to truly lay it on the line like that should be venerated for their opinions.
If you ever find yourself wondering whether we should denigrate or support student-athletes taking a stand on social issues, ask that guy.
If you ever find yourself wondering whether we should denigrate or support student-athletes taking a stand on social issues, ask that guy.
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205371829
What we really need is more questioning of MRI's sincerity.
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Landlord
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Then stop asserting a positive without any actual basis. Now, not only are you implying that MRI isn't doing anything active or sacrificial towards the causes he believes in, but you're also positing that he's an attention whore and using that as evidence for your insinuation that he's all talk. "I mean, he hasn't shunned the spotlight yet that I have seen." You realize how idiotic of a statement this is? If he did shun spotlight in certain areas, you wouldn't see it. Since you've shared 2,000+ posts with Huskerboard, I find it hard to believe you're some champion of putting skin in the game since I haven't seen any articles, references, pictures, etc. of your heroic civil deeds. Remind me, what have the things you've reported to have done cost you? Since that's the only mark of legitimate social protest, apparently.
Anyways, MRI's respectful, non-aggressive gesture of kneeling during the anthem has caused at least dozens of Nebraska fans to either change their mind on the issue of systemic racism in our country, or to at least admit that they've reconsidered and are more sympathetic to those fighting to end it. It's also provided a spotlight for our University to model very effective, supportive and healthy reactions and policy towards a complex and possibly divisive social issue and giving students room to work through those things. Who are you to say that doesn't have significance?
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TITANIC VS LUSITANIA
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Guy Chamberlin
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I'm pretty well-versed on Shelby Steele. He always brings up a few interesting points, then drowns them in his own strange brew of artificial victimhood. The holes in his argument are many.
The fact that the most vocal/visible activists use manipulative tactics to garner attention and influence doesn't eliminate the fact that the minority in question has a legitimate grievance, as dictated by America's founding documents themselves.
It's quite a stretch to declare that white guilt is the problem with America right now.
The fact that the most vocal/visible activists use manipulative tactics to garner attention and influence doesn't eliminate the fact that the minority in question has a legitimate grievance, as dictated by America's founding documents themselves.
It's quite a stretch to declare that white guilt is the problem with America right now.