NU ranked #1 in Rogers Preseason Poll

[irafreak]

ND is #59. :laughpound :laughpound :laughpound :laughpound

How do calculate the Rogers Poll??? I didnt see an explanation on their website.

The Rogers Poll is an unbiased system that can be employed to provide a comprehensive ranking of any sport. The algorithm that computes each team's poll score measures a team strictly by what they have proven with their performance throughout the season. It does not punish or reward based on tradition, name, or conference affiliation.
The goal of the Rogers Poll rankings is to effectively process the complex mosaic of each season, taking into account the entire body of work for each team. The rankings do not account for "talented" a team is perceived to be. Furthermore, the rankings are not intended to represent a hierarchical account of who could beat who. In fact, game score predictions using the poll data as a foundation are not designed to necessarily align with rankings.

The Rogers Poll has been recognized as an advanced system by the rating and ranking community and is: (1) included in the Kenneth Massey comparisons of all major systems for college basketball, baseball, and football (beginning 2010); (2) listed as a national championship selector for college football by the College Football Data Warehouse; and (3) listed among major publications for college football preseason projections by Chris Stassen.

The Rogers Poll has been statistically demonstrated by Kenneth Massey as publishing the most accurate Top 25 in college basketball.

For specific inquiries regarding the Rogers Poll, feel free to contact me by e-mail, on Twitter, or on Facebook.

LINK

Hmmmm....

 

[Ponderosa]

There is no justification for this with the kind of offense we displayed last year. Combine that with the guys we lost on defense, and there is no way we belong at #1.

I'm fully willing to believe that this team could earn their way to #1, but preseason? Nope. There are far more deserving teams out there.

With a nod to Tropic Thunder -- I'm gonna go "full homer".

Nebraska is at least as deserving as any other team.

Offense

10 returning starters. 4 on the O-line.

Lee will be healthy

-- Except for extra picks Lee's numbers compare favorably to McElroy:

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT

Greg McElroy......QB ALA 325 198 60.9 2508 7.7 80 17 4 18 140.5 -- 83 yards rushing

Zac Lee..............QB NEB 302 177 58.6 2143 7.1 74 14 10 18 126.9 -- 171 rushing

BTW - in the 2000 season Crouch passed for 1100 yards (rushed for 1100 as well).

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Helu will be healthy. Last year he had 1147 in 10 or so good games

Rex & Taylor can step up if needed.

Defense:

Coaching

-- Well, that's what I've read about Alabama. They have two returning starters and are still considered (by some) to be the #1 D.

NU has 6 returning starters.

Jared

Prince

Specialist

Henery

IMH(omer)O - They earned it vs. AZ.

Plus they are pissed and disrespected.

While I'm at it --- Helu for Heisma

!

 

[huskerscott]

There is no justification for this with the kind of offense we displayed last year. Combine that with the guys we lost on defense, and there is no way we belong at #1.

I'm fully willing to believe that this team could earn their way to #1, but preseason? Nope. There are far more deserving teams out there.

With a nod to Tropic Thunder -- I'm gonna go "full homer".

Nebraska is at least as deserving as any other team.

Offense

10 returning starters. 4 on the O-line.

Lee will be healthy

-- Except for extra picks Lee's numbers compare favorably to McElroy:

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT

Greg McElroy......QB ALA 325 198 60.9 2508 7.7 80 17 4 18 140.5 -- 83 yards rushing

Zac Lee..............QB NEB 302 177 58.6 2143 7.1 74 14 10 18 126.9 -- 171 rushing

BTW - in the 2000 season Crouch passed for 1100 yards (rushed for 1100 as well).

====

Helu will be healthy. Last year he had 1147 in 10 or so good games

Rex & Taylor can step up if needed.

Defense:

Coaching

-- Well, that's what I've read about Alabama. They have two returning starters and are still considered (by some) to be the #1 D.

NU has 6 returning starters.

Jared

Prince

Specialist

Henery

IMH(omer)O - They earned it vs. AZ.

Plus they are pissed and disrespected.

While I'm at it --- Helu for Heisma

!

I kinda agree with ya... I been saying under my breath the Lee is not as bad as QB as we think. All the QB has to do is manage the game. With a good running game that can be alot easier. Obviously, last year we struggled, but I think one of the reasons is that Lee was injured. They HAD to scale back the offense because Green was not ready to be the leader of this team and it sticked out like a sore thumb.

Im been hoping we would go to an Alabama type offense. Downhill running with playaction pass and a dominate defense. With that I think we could roll through teams. That type of offense chews up a ton of time on the clock. Thus making our defense fresher and ready to go out knock some teeth out.

 

[RedDenver]

Guys, this is just a computer algorithm with no data for the current season. The link Nexus provided says that it does not take into account tradition, name, conference affiliation, or how talented a team is projected to be - that eliminates almost every criteria that other preseason polls are using. If you remove those points from any argument, then this list looks as good as any other.

 

[JTrain]

Preseason Score: Preseason scores are only introduced for the football rankings in order to provide a continuous meaningful set of rankings for their relatively short seasons. In other sports that do not make use of preseason scores, such as baseball and basketball, the initial release of the rankings for a given season is withheld until enough games have been played to generate meaningful ratings.
The same predictive algorithm is used as the basis for both the preseason Poll Scores and the preseason Q-Scores. As such, prior to any games being played in a given season, the Poll rank and the Q-Score rank will be identical for any given team.

For college football, calculation of the preseason scores utilizes a Bayesian network. The information used to generate inputs that populate the states of the various nodes includes: previous year's poll score, previous year's conference strength, previous year's win-loss record, turnover margin from previous season, record in close games in the previous season, number of starters returning, number of letter winners returning, number of letter winners lost, points scored in previous season, points allowed in previous season, previous year's strength of schedule, experience of the head coach (in years), and the number of seasons the head coach has been at the given institution.

Several other factors have been considered but dismissed as they have not graded out as significant in my studies.

 

[jayhawk]

Any poll that has the Huskers rated #1 based on what we know right now is a bad poll. I would say it is a far worse poll if the Jayhawks were rated #1, if that makes you feel better. Would be fun to see it end that way, but nothing right now tells me they should rate the Huskers that way. Nebraska is not as deserving as any other team. They are more deserving than most teams, but those teams just don't deserve it either...

 

[corncraze]

*Puts on brakes*

Rogers Poll

Can u find out who they had #1 in previous years?

 

[typ3kal]

*Puts on brakes*

Rogers Poll

Can u find out who they had #1 in previous years?

2009 Preseason

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

1. Texas Longhorns 831.55 0-0 Big XII 1.0305 1 .0000 -

2. Florida Gators 812.66 0-0 SEC 1.0003 2 .0000 -

3. USC Trojans 810.27 0-0 Pac-10 .9964 3 .0000 -

4. Alabama Crimson Tide 775.04 0-0 SEC .9401 4 .0000 -

5. Ole Miss Rebels 774.51 0-0 SEC .9392 5 .0000 -

6. Oklahoma Sooners 748.24 0-0 Big XII .8972 6 .0000 -

7. Penn State Nittany Lions 730.31 0-0 Big Ten .8685 7 .0000 -

8. TCU Horned Frogs 721.61 0-0 Mountain West .8546 8 .0000 -

9. Boise State Broncos 713.98 0-0 WAC .8424 9 .0000 -

10. Nebraska Cornhuskers 701.12 0-0 Big XII .8218 10 .0000 -

11. Ohio State Buckeyes 696.63 0-0 Big Ten .8146 11 .0000 -

12. Iowa Hawkeyes 695.33 0-0 Big Ten .8125 12 .0000 -

13. Florida State Seminoles 677.97 0-0 ACC .7848 13 .0000 -

14. Missouri Tigers 673.41 0-0 Big XII .7775 14 .0000 -

15. Clemson Tigers 669.92 0-0 ACC .7719 15 .0000 -

16. Oklahoma State Cowboys 669.88 0-0 Big XII .7718 16 .0000 -

17. Pittsburgh Panthers 664.13 0-0 Big East .7626 17 .0000 -

18. Arizona Wildcats 662.32 0-0 Pac-10 .7597 18 .0000 -

19. Georgia Bulldogs 658.19 0-0 SEC .7531 19 .0000 -

20. California Golden Bears 657.13 0-0 Pac-10 .7514 20 .0000 -

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

21. North Carolina Tar Heels 654.77 0-0 ACC .7476 21 .0000 -

22. Texas Tech Red Raiders 651.19 0-0 Big XII .7419 22 .0000 -

23. Rutgers Scarlet Knights 650.59 0-0 Big East .7409 23 .0000 -

24. Oregon State Beavers 649.33 0-0 Pac-10 .7389 24 .0000 -

25. Utah Utes 643.79 0-0 Mountain Wes

Final 2009

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

1. Alabama Crimson Tide 986.86 14-0 SEC .7575 1 .7539 1

2. Texas Longhorns 923.08 13-1 Big XII .7220 2 .7319 3

3. Florida Gators 912.29 13-1 SEC .7191 3 .7320 2

4. Boise State Broncos 902.00 14-0 WAC .7020 4 .6645 10

5. Cincinnati Bearcats 874.96 12-1 Big East .6839 6 .6456 14

6. TCU Horned Frogs 869.98 12-1 Mountain West .6968 5 .7044 8

7. Ohio State Buckeyes 837.01 11-2 Big Ten .6810 7 .7106 7

8. Iowa Hawkeyes 811.03 11-2 Big Ten .6606 9 .6362 17

9. Virginia Tech Hokies 796.00 10-3 ACC .6743 8 .7188 6

10. BYU Cougars 793.82 11-2 Mountain West .6331 14 .6294 20

11. Oregon Ducks 786.70 10-3 Pac-10 .6472 10 .6600 12

12. Penn State Nittany Lions 780.97 11-2 Big Ten .6439 12 .6894 9

13. Central Michigan Chippewas 755.68 12-2 MAC .6211 16 .6181 24

14. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 749.28 11-3 ACC .6131 19 .6054 26

15. Pittsburgh Panthers 747.17 10-3 Big East .6361 13 .6512 13

16. Nebraska Cornhuskers 735.13 10-4 Big XII .6466 11 .7257 4

17. Utah Utes 734.77 10-3 Mountain West .6182 18 .5904 34

18. Wisconsin Badgers 724.30 10-3 Big Ten .6106 21 .6170 25

19. LSU Tigers 720.22 9-4 SEC .6243 15 .6608 11

20. Miami Hurricanes 696.64 9-4 ACC .6121 20 .6279 21

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

21. USC Trojans 688.81 9-4 Pac-10 .5908 26 .6007 27

22. West Virginia Mountaineers 670.31 9-4 Big East .5848 29 .5647 43

23. Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders 669.20 10-3 Sun Belt .5643 37 .5420 53

24. Troy Trojans 665.08 9-4 Sun Belt .5889 27 .5343 54

25. Texas Tech Red Raiders 662.84 9-4 Big XII .5934 24 .6381 16

2008 Preaseason

1. LSU Tigers 770.93 0-0 SEC .9335 1 .0000 -

2. Florida Gators 740.08 0-0 SEC .8841 2 .0000 -

3. Georgia Bulldogs 724.84 0-0 SEC .8597 3 .0000 -

4. Ohio State Buckeyes 715.76 0-0 Big Ten .8452 4 .0000 -

5. Missouri Tigers 698.00 0-0 Big XII .8168 5 .0000 -

6. West Virginia Mountaineers 696.03 0-0 Big East .8137 6 .0000 -

7. BYU Cougars 694.24 0-0 Mountain West .8108 7 .0000 -

8. Kansas Jayhawks 685.19 0-0 Big XII .7963 8 .0000 -

9. USF Bulls 679.36 0-0 Big East .7870 9 .0000 -

10. Oklahoma Sooners 676.14 0-0 Big XII .7818 10 .0000 -

11. Tennessee Volunteers 672.42 0-0 SEC .7759 11 .0000 -

12. Illinois Fighting Illini 669.02 0-0 Big Ten .7704 12 .0000 -

13. USC Trojans 665.55 0-0 Pac-10 .7649 13 .0000 -

14. Utah Utes 663.99 0-0 Mountain West .7624 14 .0000 -

15. Auburn Tigers 663.98 0-0 SEC .7624 15 .0000 -

16. Oregon Ducks 663.94 0-0 Pac-10 .7623 16 .0000 -

17. Virginia Tech Hokies 663.44 0-0 ACC .7615 17 .0000 -

18. Arizona State Sun Devils 659.95 0-0 Pac-10 .7559 18 .0000 -

19. Penn State Nittany Lions 651.92 0-0 Big Ten .7431 19 .0000 -

20. South Carolina Gamecocks 645.47 0-0 SEC .7328 20 .0000 -

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

21. Texas Longhorns 642.03 0-0 Big XII .7272 21 .0000 -

22. Cincinnati Bearcats 640.15 0-0 Big East .7242 22 .0000 -

23. Boston College Eagles 639.74 0-0 ACC .7236 23 .0000 -

24. Clemson Tigers 636.26 0-0 ACC .7180 24 .0000 -

25. Texas Tech Red Raiders 630.34 0-0 Big XII .7085 25 .0000 -

2008 Final

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

1. Texas Longhorns 939.29 12-1 Big XII .7363 2 .7172 3

2. Florida Gators 933.23 13-1 SEC .7469 1 .7529 1

3. USC Trojans 915.76 12-1 Pac-10 .7259 3 .7492 2

4. Utah Utes 903.71 13-0 Mountain West .6838 6 .6566 11

5. Oklahoma Sooners 873.29 12-2 Big XII .7121 4 .7154 4

6. Boise State Broncos 852.41 12-1 WAC .6899 5 .6955 9

7. Alabama Crimson Tide 840.43 12-2 SEC .6725 7 .6993 8

8. Penn State Nittany Lions 813.17 11-2 Big Ten .6708 8 .7144 5

9. TCU Horned Frogs 804.84 11-2 Mountain West .6661 10 .7027 7

10. Texas Tech Red Raiders 784.35 11-2 Big XII .6466 11 .6239 18

11. Ohio State Buckeyes 777.43 10-3 Big Ten .6666 9 .7030 6

12. Georgia Bulldogs 759.52 10-3 SEC .6375 12 .5955 24

13. Oregon Ducks 755.83 10-3 Pac-10 .6279 13 .6260 16

14. Ball State Cardinals 741.39 12-2 MAC .6170 15 .5983 23

15. Cincinnati Bearcats 731.52 11-3 Big East .6015 23 .5685 37

16. Pittsburgh Panthers 712.07 9-4 Big East .6112 18 .6195 19

17. Oregon State Beavers 706.99 9-4 Pac-10 .6035 20 .6141 20

18. Rice Owls 706.86 10-3 C-USA .5865 28 .5426 48

19. Missouri Tigers 705.74 10-4 Big XII .6170 14 .6368 12

20. Michigan State Spartans 698.83 9-4 Big Ten .6017 22 .5750 33

Rank Program Score Record Conference Q-Score Q-Rank P-Score P-Rank

21. Virginia Tech Hokies 697.84 10-4 ACC .6069 19 .5884 30

22. Nebraska Cornhuskers 695.85 9-4 Big XII .6123 17 .5859 31

23. Ole Miss Rebels 688.35 9-4 SEC .6133 16 .6333 13

24. California Golden Bears 686.15 9-4 Pac-10 .5957 25 .6308 15

25. BYU Cougars 681.09 10-3 Mountain West .5756 32 .5749 34

Note the Final Rankings are not post bowl games.. they are post conference play.

 

[typ3kal]

This is the best ranking.

It is an average of 5 different poll services. Click Here

Rank Team Total

Points Lindy Athlon TSN Phil

Steele Rogers

Poll

1 Alabama 140 1 1 1 3 9

2 Ohio State 139 3 2 2 2 7

3 Boise State 130 2 4 3 6 10

4 Florida 128 5 6 5 7 4

5 Texas Christian 125 7 11 6 4 2

6t Nebraska 124 11 7 7 5 1

6t Oklahoma 124 9 5 10 1 6

8 Texas 118 4 8 9 11 5

9 Oregon 107 15 9 11 10 3

10 Virginia Tech 104 8 10 12 13 8

11 Iowa 90 10 12 13 14 16

12 Miami-Florida 88 20 14 4 9 20

13 Southern Cal 85 12 3 16 8 -

14 Wisconsin 80 6 16 8 23 22

15 North Carolina 74 13 19 23 12 14

16 Arkansas 72 16 17 21 17 12

17 Auburn 55 - 22 17 15 15

18 Pittsburgh 52 14 18 19 - 21

19 Louisiana State 49 18 24 20 - 13

20 Penn State 48 24 23 - 18 11

21 Florida State 46 - 13 14 20 -

22 Georgia 38 21 15 - 19 -

23 West Virginia 28 19 - 24 22 -

24 Georgia Tech 27 17 - 18 - -

25 Connecticut 24 - 20 - - 18

 

[deedsker15]

This is the best ranking.

It is an average of 5 different poll services. Click Here

Rank Team Total

Points Lindy Athlon TSN Phil

Steele Rogers

Poll

1 Alabama 140 1 1 1 3 9

2 Ohio State 139 3 2 2 2 7

3 Boise State 130 2 4 3 6 10

4 Florida 128 5 6 5 7 4

5 Texas Christian 125 7 11 6 4 2

6t Nebraska 124 11 7 7 5 1

6t Oklahoma 124 9 5 10 1 6

8 Texas 118 4 8 9 11 5

9 Oregon 107 15 9 11 10 3

10 Virginia Tech 104 8 10 12 13 8

11 Iowa 90 10 12 13 14 16

12 Miami-Florida 88 20 14 4 9 20

13 Southern Cal 85 12 3 16 8 -

14 Wisconsin 80 6 16 8 23 22

15 North Carolina 74 13 19 23 12 14

16 Arkansas 72 16 17 21 17 12

17 Auburn 55 - 22 17 15 15

18 Pittsburgh 52 14 18 19 - 21

19 Louisiana State 49 18 24 20 - 13

20 Penn State 48 24 23 - 18 11

21 Florida State 46 - 13 14 20 -

22 Georgia 38 21 15 - 19 -

23 West Virginia 28 19 - 24 22 -

24 Georgia Tech 27 17 - 18 - -

25 Connecticut 24 - 20 - - 18

makes...sense... :laughpound

 

[Ponderosa]

This is the best ranking.

It is an average of 5 different poll services. Click Here

Rank Team Total

Points Lindy Athlon TSN Phil

Steele Rogers

Poll

1 Alabama 140 1 1 1 3 9

2 Ohio State 139 3 2 2 2 7

3 Boise State 130 2 4 3 6 10

4 Florida 128 5 6 5 7 4

5 Texas Christian 125 7 11 6 4 2

6t Nebraska 124 11 7 7 5 1

6t Oklahoma 124 9 5 10 1 6

8 Texas 118 4 8 9 11 5

9 Oregon 107 15 9 11 10 3

10 Virginia Tech 104 8 10 12 13 8

makes...sense...

If Nebraska starts in the top ten - I'm a happy boy. (Last time NU was in the top ten - Oct. 2003 for 1 week)

Top five and ahead of Texas. All the better.

Number 1! Pushing it?

I'll never admit it.

 

[jsneb83]

This is the best ranking.

It is an average of 5 different poll services. Click Here

Rank Team Total

Points Lindy Athlon TSN Phil

Steele Rogers

Poll

1 Alabama 140 1 1 1 3 9

2 Ohio State 139 3 2 2 2 7

3 Boise State 130 2 4 3 6 10

4 Florida 128 5 6 5 7 4

5 Texas Christian 125 7 11 6 4 2

6t Nebraska 124 11 7 7 5 1

6t Oklahoma 124 9 5 10 1 6

8 Texas 118 4 8 9 11 5

9 Oregon 107 15 9 11 10 3

10 Virginia Tech 104 8 10 12 13 8

makes...sense...

If Nebraska starts in the top ten - I'm a happy boy. (Last time NU was in the top ten - Oct. 2003 for 1 week)

Top five and ahead of Texas. All the better.

Number 1! Pushing it?

I'll never admit it.

:yeah I'm sure if we started the season #1 nobody would be complaining. :corndance

 

[Enhance]

Their previous polls aren't terrible, but they're not very good either.

 

[NUance]

The underlying algorithm for calculating the P-Scores is very straightforward. Half of the P-Score is the team's Pythagorean expectation. The other half is the mean Pythagorean expectation for all opponents faced to date.

With a cool sounding parameter like the Pythagorean expectation this poll must be accurate. This should be straightforward to you.

 

[husker B-rent]

ah preseason poll, everyone degrades them because they dont wanna get their hopes up and get their feelings hurt...