Obligatory "Is Iowa a Rival" Thread

Is Iowa a Rivalry for Nebraska?

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Hilltop said:
Fair point. I do think one can be a fan of a team that is striving for greatness without being hyper critical of every detail along the way. I personally believe that section of our fan base actually has a negative impact on the overall program. These coaches and players sign up for it but that doesn't mean it has no impact.

Here are some quotes. You guess the coach/coaches.

"My kids were watching the game and I heard I might be fired. I don't know if they were really upset about it, but they wanted to know if it was a fact. I'm sure it had an effect on them."
"Frankly, I took the phone off the hook at home for the weekend. The kids took some calls after the game and most of them were not supportive. I don't think the kids should have to hear some of the things that were said."

When asked if pressure from the fans and bad press ever caused _______ to consider resigning, _______ said: "Sure, I've thought about resigning. I've always weighed the pluses and minuses and sometimes it's a pretty thin line between the two."
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I’m sure the hyper critical nature of this sport and fans have a detrimental impact on the players. Used to care more about this but with NIL I’ve kinda shifted in the territory that this is to be expected when said players are making 6-7 figures a year playing football at school

I think a similar argument can be made that our attachment to history and having facilities on par with title teams creates a somewhat entitled and spoiled roster. I get pretty frustrated and annoyed with the constant PR puff pieces and red carpet treatment players get to enjoy but then same guys don’t show up on gameday. It’s like being a rich family and spoiling the hell out of the kids then we’re all puzzled why they grew up to entitled brats that don’t reach their potential. Not the best analogy I know lol, but lot of parallels

I’m not saying to strip back resources and facilities, it’s needed to succeed at the level we do. But hot damn, just for once I want a season where the product on the field matches what we put in
 
HawkTalk said:
This is why every other fanbase ridicules you. The lack of self awareness is just hilarious. Nobody here was begging for Scott Frost or Mike Riley. Enjoy watching your 90's videos the rest of your life
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The self awareness isn't missing at all. We know when we stink but we strive for better. I do enjoy watching some of the best teams to ever play the game at the college level. Fun to reminisce about the glory days while hoping and wishing that our team will get back there some day. Guessing 2015 is the year you go back to watch? 12-0 regular season was impressive. It was too bad you couldn't finish and that 45-16 loss in the Rose Bowl probably taints it a bit. But, it's your best season ever so...
 
Crusader Husker said:
We know exactly where we are at, it is where we want to go that is different. The difference is that we have videos to watch and trophy cases to look at.
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That's just it, we don't want different things. Nebraska fans aren't the only ones that want to win National Championships. The difference is they are willing to throw away coaches that win 9 games a year because they think they're too good for that and have to find out the hard way that the Big 8 is never coming back. The years of playing 7 or 8 cupcakes and then if you beat Oklahoma you are playing for the natty are never coming back. Other schools understand the value of a coach that knows how to develop talent and will always put you in a position to compete regardless of the opponent 99% of the time.
 
While you are not wrong, you probably also don't understand what the gold standard was, and should be. But you do, what if Iowa Wrestling ever got bad?

The struggle started way before the B1G. The coach part you are right. We need to be patient with Rhule. Development is what he needs to focus on, that is not going away.
 
Crusader Husker said:
While you are not wrong, you probably also don't understand what the gold standard was, and should be. But you do, what if Iowa Wrestling ever got bad?

The struggle started way before the B1G. The coach part you are right. We need to be patient with Rhule. Development is what he needs to focus on, that is not going away.
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Iowa is not what it was with Dan Gable, but I am sensible enough to understand that he is a once in a lifetime type of coach. That doesn't mean Tom Brands isn't a good coach, it's just that guys like Gable and Sanderson are a rarity. I still hate it when they lose to Penn St but firing Brands would just exacerbate the situation and start another cycle similar to what the 2000's have been for Nebraska football.
 
HawkTalk said:
Iowa is not what it was with Dan Gable, but I am sensible enough to understand that he is a once in a lifetime type of coach. That doesn't mean Tom Brands isn't a good coach, it's just that guys like Gable and Sanderson are a rarity. I still hate it when they lose to Penn St but firing Brands would just exacerbate the situation and start another cycle similar to what the 2000's have been for Nebraska football.
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You are still a top 10 team. You need to be outside of the top 25 to understand. But yes, this started with the firing of Solich.
 
Crusader Husker said:
While you are not wrong, you probably also don't understand what the gold standard was, and should be. But you do, what if Iowa Wrestling ever got bad?

The struggle started way before the B1G. The coach part you are right. We need to be patient with Rhule. Development is what he needs to focus on, that is not going away.
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Matt Rhule couldn't hold Solich's jock strap. Or Pelini for that matter. Those were coaches that could develop talent. I am still stunned that Nebraska hasn't gone back to it's bread and butter which is building up OL/DL and dominating LOS, with recruits that are plentiful in the midwest. I'm thankful they haven't figured it out, but it is still stunning.
 
HawkTalk said:
Matt Rhule couldn't hold Solich's jock strap. Or Pelini for that matter. Those were coaches that could develop talent. I am still stunned that Nebraska hasn't gone back to it's bread and butter which is building up OL/DL and dominating LOS, with recruits that are plentiful in the midwest. I'm thankful they haven't figured it out, but it is still stunning.
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Its not the recruiting part we're missing- its the coaching. But conceptually, fully agree here. Might as well throw in the TE spot as well- such a neglected and miss used position in our progrum meanwhile Iowa had a decade run of all pro level TEs they were producing- some we just said naw we're good on offering. Yay
 
HawkTalk said:
This is why every other fanbase ridicules you.
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LOL. Do you even understand the concept of sports and competition? Teams = tribes, and none of them are rooting for each other.
And you definitely have an IQ lower than plant life if you think your fanbase/program is widely loved. JFC you have a coach famous for nepotism issues who lost a racism lawsuit and cries on TV more often than Academy Award winners. Your entire school should be renamed BETA-MALE U.
 
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