% of Mem Stad taken by season ticket holders? BCS Playoff ?

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What percentage of Memorial Stadium is used by Season Ticket holders?

The reason I ask is Bill Hancock was on Omaha radio this morning and he was saying that some of the reasons that on-campus sites may not work are infrastructure shortcomings in host communities (hotel and other accommodations to support such a large event), Stadium size and press box size to support the increased demand for coverage and attendance, the home field advantage, as well as the fact that there would be a requirement to have more than a normal allotment of tickets for visiting fans and this would possibly require some season ticket holders to have to give up their seats for the postseason games.

I guess I just don't understand why the need to cater to the least qualified teams making it into the top 2 which rarely happens rather than just setting minimum requirements that would be need to be met in order to host. If you didn't meet these requirements ( X number of seats, hotel rooms etc within a certain radius of the campus) then you would be charged with setting up alternate arrangements to host. For example if Northwestern were to host a semifinal game they would try to get it in Soldier field, or if Boise hosted they could look to Seattle or Denver.

I personally am for the on campus type sites as it rewards regular season success and has the potential to make some of the southern schools come and play in the weather if we can get a northern team into the top 2.

What do you say Husker Nation?

 
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Pretty sure there are 4,000 seats allotted for visitors, and X number of seats allotted for students, but my guess is 70,000 of those 86,000 seats are season-ticket holders. There are no seats in the stadium that aren't season tickets, generally speaking.

 
Interesting. Well if that is the case at most major Universities, and I would assume it is, then I could see the on campus thing being an issue in terms of this topic.

It will be interesting to see how it all works out. I personally would like to see a leveling of the playing field as I seem to gravitate toward the idea that more parody is better for the game. If you have a larger pool of teams that realistically have a chance to win the title it is better for the sport. I would like to see more southern teams playing up north in weather, spreading out the bowls/post season etc what ever it takes to level the playing field as much as possible. Maybe this is not possible but it would be nice to have a different team from a different conference winning the title every year!

 
It would be nice, but until the rest of the country figures out a way to be competitive with the SEC, it just is not going to happen.

Football for me was long time ago, but listening yesterday to Jack Arute show, a coach from Lousiana called in and stated that high school football in the state was every bit as demanding as college football. IE Spring workouts 6 weeks, summer conditioning 5 days a week, start wintern practice two weeks after the season ends. Not all attended by coaches, but allowed with in the school system. If this is the normal for the SEC, is it in the B1G? I do not think so. With the accademic standards lower for the SEC schools, most that is, and the advantage of warm weather year around, an abundance of talent, I do not see things changing much in the near future.

They have defined what it takes to win. Great coaches, great facilities, great weather, great recruiting bases, and a fierce conference alligeance.

Hawk was against it, thought it would cause burn out, but it seems to have worked the last 6 years.

I really do not think playing in the north would turn into an advantage, football is footbal and most that are good enough to play at a high level program have dreams of playing in the NFL so it might affect a few, it would be quickly overcame.

We think of our fans as being overboard, but pretty much every team in the SEC has just as fevored fan as Nebraska and some even more so.

SC, Texas and possibly Oklahoma have the potential to be SEC busters, but the rest of the country is handicapped to say the least.

 
Football's football until it gets below 40 and you're playing in the rain or snow. Then it can become attrition.

 
skersfan said:
It would be nice, but until the rest of the country figures out a way to be competitive with the SEC, it just is not going to happen.

Football for me was long time ago, but listening yesterday to Jack Arute show, a coach from Lousiana called in and stated that high school football in the state was every bit as demanding as college football. IE Spring workouts 6 weeks, summer conditioning 5 days a week, start wintern practice two weeks after the season ends. Not all attended by coaches, but allowed with in the school system. If this is the normal for the SEC, is it in the B1G? I do not think so. With the accademic standards lower for the SEC schools, most that is, and the advantage of warm weather year around, an abundance of talent, I do not see things changing much in the near future.

They have defined what it takes to win. Great coaches, great facilities, great weather, great recruiting bases, and a fierce conference alligeance.

Hawk was against it, thought it would cause burn out, but it seems to have worked the last 6 years.

I really do not think playing in the north would turn into an advantage, football is footbal and most that are good enough to play at a high level program have dreams of playing in the NFL so it might affect a few, it would be quickly overcame.

We think of our fans as being overboard, but pretty much every team in the SEC has just as fevored fan as Nebraska and some even more so.

SC, Texas and possibly Oklahoma have the potential to be SEC busters, but the rest of the country is handicapped to say the least.
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Things have gotten a bit out of hand as I don't feel the need to pick one sport early on and only concentrate on that one sport year round. I liked the days where you could have a well rounded athlete who maybe played football in the fall, wrestled or played basketball or ran track as well. I have always held the idea that these other sports taught skills that would be applicable in other sports. If you have and offensive lineman that used to wrestle he has a better understanding of his center of gravity and leverage etc or a tight end that played basketball, these are just a couple of examples. Adding martial arts and other skills to the mix make for better athletes. Take Suh playing soccer. No matter the sport it just seems to be too involved as there are year round baseball, basketball and soccer academies as well.

For my children, I guess I would prefer them to be allowed to be children a little bit longer and not be forced into choosing a specific sport to focus on quite so early.

Not sure if issues like this can even be fixed but I would sure be on board to try!

 
I don't think you are so much "forced" to pick a sport, its just that if you don't focus on one, you can get left behind.

The trickle-down, is there, though. High school coaches want to win, so they start having the middle schools run the same stuff. Next thing you know, you are finishing your 9th grade year up and you have already been "in the system" for 3 years so it is really easy to just start to focus on football.

 
A few things.

First, why would schools be required to give up seats to visiting fans by forcing some season ticket holders to relinquish their tickets? When the season starts, we'll have no idea who will be hosting those home playoff games, therefore tickets won't be sold for them. How does the NFL handle playoff tickets for home teams, and could college do the same?

Second, there are plenty of stadiums out there (even the less populated ones) which have hosted College Gameday - a fairly large media event. Although there would likely be more coverage for a playoff game in comparison to Gameday, I don't think it would be something stadiums couldn't handle or haven't seen before. And, as another poster mentioned, I'm sure many teams with home-field advantage might clamor to get the location changed to a larger venue anyways. This is a relatively moot and irrelevant point, imho.

Third, I don't think anyone can convince me that an SEC team wouldn't struggle playing a December game in Nebraska. Last year's anomaly aside, our winters are pretty cold and those guys from the SEC have little idea what it's like playing below 70 degrees. Although I admit the advantage wouldn't be drastic, and "football is football", I'd have to agree with ZRod - it becomes a game of attrition after awhile, a game that teams like Nebraska might be more suited to win.

 
Enhances first point is right, people aren't "giving up their seats", a relatively small % just won't be able to buy the extra playoff ticket, as opposed to the much larger % who wouldn't be able to buy a ticket at a neutral site.

btw, Jaybird, "parity" not "parody". Unless you were going somewhere totally different with that post.

 
VA Husker Fan said:
Enhances first point is right, people aren't "giving up their seats", a relatively small % just won't be able to buy the extra playoff ticket, as opposed to the much larger % who wouldn't be able to buy a ticket at a neutral site.

btw, Jaybird, "parity" not "parody". Unless you were going somewhere totally different with that post.
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Nope "parity" is where I was going I just can't type and since I typed it wrong but it was a correct word myself and the spell check didn't catch it.

My bad.

At least I get the words: there, their and they're as well as the proper use of than and then- if that means anything! :dunno

 
IMO season tickets wouldn't include playoff games anyways. Season tickets imply regular season games only.

Season Ticket holders should of course get first dibs at buying a large number of the playoff tickets - but a season ticket wouldn't guarantee you a playoff ticket.

The playoff home game thing isn't about how many stadiums are big enough seating wise, it's more about the other stuff. - For example, many stadiums around the country don't have HD accessability or a real pressbox. Heck some stadiums in our own conference don't even have the lighting for Night games.

There would also be the rarer (but still relevant) issue of teams that play in stadiums that host a bowl game. What happens if the bowl game and playoff game are on the same week? IE Miami and the Orange Bowl, UCLA and the Rose Bowl, Memphis and the Liberty Bowl etc. Or stadiums that have horrible fields - I'm looking at you Texas Tech, who wants to play on Astroturf in January?

 
Blackshirt316 said:
IMO season tickets wouldn't include playoff games anyways. Season tickets imply regular season games only.

Season Ticket holders should of course get first dibs at buying a large number of the playoff tickets - but a season ticket wouldn't guarantee you a playoff ticket.

The playoff home game thing isn't about how many stadiums are big enough seating wise, it's more about the other stuff. - For example, many stadiums around the country don't have HD accessability or a real pressbox. Heck some stadiums in our own conference don't even have the lighting for Night games.

There would also be the rarer (but still relevant) issue of teams that play in stadiums that host a bowl game. What happens if the bowl game and playoff game are on the same week? IE Miami and the Orange Bowl, UCLA and the Rose Bowl, Memphis and the Liberty Bowl etc. Or stadiums that have horrible fields - I'm looking at you Texas Tech, who wants to play on Astroturf in January? :blink:
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Pretty sure Tech's had field turf for at least 5 years now? Just a thought. Is there even anyone anywhere that still has astro?

 
accountability said:
Blackshirt316 said:
IMO season tickets wouldn't include playoff games anyways. Season tickets imply regular season games only.

Season Ticket holders should of course get first dibs at buying a large number of the playoff tickets - but a season ticket wouldn't guarantee you a playoff ticket.

The playoff home game thing isn't about how many stadiums are big enough seating wise, it's more about the other stuff. - For example, many stadiums around the country don't have HD accessability or a real pressbox. Heck some stadiums in our own conference don't even have the lighting for Night games.

There would also be the rarer (but still relevant) issue of teams that play in stadiums that host a bowl game. What happens if the bowl game and playoff game are on the same week? IE Miami and the Orange Bowl, UCLA and the Rose Bowl, Memphis and the Liberty Bowl etc. Or stadiums that have horrible fields - I'm looking at you Texas Tech, who wants to play on Astroturf in January? :blink:
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Pretty sure Tech's had field turf for at least 5 years now? Just a thought. Is there even anyone anywhere that still has astro?
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The Houston Astro's maybe in the Astrodome....wait are they still around?

 
I'll say this, if the BCS wants to do the playoff the right way, they could find a way to make it work for the higher seeds to host playoff games or find alternate sites that meet the requirements. These "neutral sites" that they are probably going to use just make it even harder for the teams in the north to be competitive.

 
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