Offense says they got their wake-up call

[Hunter94]

So than please elaborate on how BP never talked to TO about team culture, I would like to know.
It has been written in many articles that BP did in fact talk to TO about things from time to time. I could only speculate, but he probably talked about things other than x's and o's with TO.

So please elaborate.

I know people who work in the Athletic Department. They indicated that Pelini rarely asked TO for advice and TO, wanting to avoid stepping on toes, did not offer it when it was unsolicited. The gist was that Pelini wasn't very interested in picking Osborne's brain. I think that's a missed opportunity, more even in terms of learning how to build a successful and thriving organization than in terms of X's and O's.

How is this related to a "culture" or lack of. Everything written about this team is that they are very tight. What "culture" are you referring too? Unless you think its Bo's set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization that are lacking. I don't agree.

They describe themselves as "tight." Why do you think that is? And what do you think they really mean when they describe themselves that way?

I see a team that doesn't really believe....not in themselves, not in each other and not in the system. They can beat bad teams and compete with mediocre teams based on pure talent. But that doesn't work against top caliber competition. And we get streamrolled in those big games far more often than is normal. My theory is that the wheels come off in those games in large part due to this lack of trust. That goes beyond simply being "tight" or dealing with issues related to nerves. It goes to the heart of the culture of the organization. Pelini and his staff don't seem to be doing an effective job of building trust or developing leaders. And the results are there for all to see.

You would have been better off if you just stuck with your theory. Trying to allude that saying they are "tight" with each other is a cry for help in some Freudian way is really stretching it a bit.

Its just your theory.

My theory about the blowout losses is that yes ,there are too many by Nebraska lately, but I see way too many period in college football these days. Lots of good teams have been blown out in recent years.

Not just NU but Clemson vs. WVa in bowl game/ Louisville vs. Florida bowl game, Florida vs. S. Carolina regular season last year can't remember who won. KSU loses to Baylor bad last year etc. That's just 4 I thought of off the top of my head out side of Nebraska.

I think kids just have a different make up than they used to. I think, in general, they don't have as much fight in them when things really go bad. Call it lack of mental toughness or culture if you want, but it happens a lot more than it used to.

The problem though is you posted different times this has happened to different teams. Nebraska has been having several of these each season...

would have to agree...3 in a row is a trend.

 

[NUinID]

So than please elaborate on how BP never talked to TO about team culture, I would like to know.
It has been written in many articles that BP did in fact talk to TO about things from time to time. I could only speculate, but he probably talked about things other than x's and o's with TO.

So please elaborate.

I know people who work in the Athletic Department. They indicated that Pelini rarely asked TO for advice and TO, wanting to avoid stepping on toes, did not offer it when it was unsolicited. The gist was that Pelini wasn't very interested in picking Osborne's brain. I think that's a missed opportunity, more even in terms of learning how to build a successful and thriving organization than in terms of X's and O's.

How is this related to a "culture" or lack of. Everything written about this team is that they are very tight. What "culture" are you referring too? Unless you think its Bo's set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization that are lacking. I don't agree.

They describe themselves as "tight." Why do you think that is? And what do you think they really mean when they describe themselves that way?

I see a team that doesn't really believe....not in themselves, not in each other and not in the system. They can beat bad teams and compete with mediocre teams based on pure talent. But that doesn't work against top caliber competition. And we get streamrolled in those big games far more often than is normal. My theory is that the wheels come off in those games in large part due to this lack of trust. That goes beyond simply being "tight" or dealing with issues related to nerves. It goes to the heart of the culture of the organization. Pelini and his staff don't seem to be doing an effective job of building trust or developing leaders. And the results are there for all to see.

You would have been better off if you just stuck with your theory. Trying to allude that saying they are "tight" with each other is a cry for help in some Freudian way is really stretching it a bit.

Its just your theory.

My theory about the blowout losses is that yes ,there are too many by Nebraska lately, but I see way too many period in college football these days. Lots of good teams have been blown out in recent years.

Not just NU but Clemson vs. WVa in bowl game/ Louisville vs. Florida bowl game, Florida vs. S. Carolina regular season last year can't remember who won. KSU loses to Baylor bad last year etc. That's just 4 I thought of off the top of my head out side of Nebraska.

I think kids just have a different make up than they used to. I think, in general, they don't have as much fight in them when things really go bad. Call it lack of mental toughness or culture if you want, but it happens a lot more than it used to.

The problem though is you posted different times this has happened to different teams. Nebraska has been having several of these each season...

I think if you read my post it says it has happened to much to Nebraska.

 

[True2tRA]

Sitting in the Huskerboardsurrounded by your teammates. The guys you've been in the weight room with all off season. Been through the grueling two a days, all the practices after. Strapping on the pads, the uniform with your name on the back, you've got your helmet in front of you in this spectacular locker.

That helmet has the Big Red N on the sides. You've made it. All this hard work, your whole life, you're a Husker.

The crowd is filing in you can hear the excitement. You can feel it. You get one last speech from coach as you and your teammates look each other in the eyes around the room. Soul searching. Just loving the experience, yet ready to go, ready to play some football.

You stand and come together as a single unit and you pray. Not just any prayer, The Husker Prayer. Your not thinking about it at that moment, too much excitement for sentiment, but you've thought about it before. This prayer has been said right here, right now, by some of the greatest men to play college football. Men who represented Nebraska in every way, the right way.

No time for this now though. It's time to make your own name. Time to make sure Nebraska fans know who you are.

That name on your back is yours to do as you please.

The doors open. Your brothers and yourself begin the walk down the tunnel. Reach up and slap that horseshoe. Now you hear the music. The legendary tunnel walk. Something about it just gives you chills. Fans are reaching out for you. Screaming " go get em fellas", ". good luck". Reaching out your hand, you get a few hand slaps. Your in the zone as Bo turns toward the team and yells lets go boys........he trails off. You can't hear him anymore. You can't hear anything but the stomps and claps of the crowd.

90000 plus are here for you. Spent their hard earned money to be here. One of the hardest tickets in the world to come by. A sellout streak in the record books for all time. Man these fans love us! Let's go! The gates open and your running on numb legs.........You're a Husker.

I've never had the honor to do this. Not even sure how it all goes down on this level. I just know I used to dream about it.

This is more of a wake up call than I would ever need.

 

[NUpolo8]

So than please elaborate on how BP never talked to TO about team culture, I would like to know.
It has been written in many articles that BP did in fact talk to TO about things from time to time. I could only speculate, but he probably talked about things other than x's and o's with TO.

So please elaborate.

I know people who work in the Athletic Department. They indicated that Pelini rarely asked TO for advice and TO, wanting to avoid stepping on toes, did not offer it when it was unsolicited. The gist was that Pelini wasn't very interested in picking

Osborne's brain. I think that's a missed opportunity, more even in terms of learning how to build a successful and thriving organization than in terms of X's and O's.

How is this related to a "culture" or lack of. Everything written about this team is that they are very tight. What "culture" are you referring too? Unless you think its Bo's set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization that are lacking. I don't agree.

They describe themselves as "tight." Why do you think that is? And what do you think they really mean when they describe themselves that way?

I see a team that doesn't really believe....not in themselves, not in each other and not in the system. They can beat bad teams and compete with mediocre teams based on pure talent. But that doesn't work against top caliber competition. And we get streamrolled in those big games far more often than is normal. My theory is that the wheels come off in those games in large part due to this lack of trust. That goes beyond simply being "tight" or dealing with issues related to nerves. It goes

to the heart of the culture of the organization. Pelini and his staff don't seem to be doing an effective job of building trust or developing leaders. And the results are there for all to see.

You would have been better off if you just stuck with your theory. Trying to allude that saying they are "tight" with each other is a cry for help in some Freudian way is really stretching it a bit.

Its just your theory.

My theory about the blowout losses is that yes ,there are too many by Nebraska lately, but I see way too many period in college football these days. Lots of good teams have been blown out in recent years.

Not just NU but Clemson vs. WVa in bowl game/ Louisville vs. Florida bowl game, Florida vs. S. Carolina regular season last

year can't remember who won. KSU loses to Baylor bad last year etc. That's just 4 I thought of off the top of my head out side of Nebraska.

I think kids just have a different make up than they used to. I think, in general, they don't have as much fight in them when things really go bad. Call it lack of mental toughness or culture if you want, but it happens a lot more than it used to.

Or....

College sports are really ******* hard and 99% of the people on message boards haven't the first fu--cking clue about it.

 

[walksalone]

If Bo doesn't get this figured out this year, and we have the same problems and mistakes throughout this season and into next, he's going to find out how Cosgrove felt circa 2007.

Pretty big talk considering what Pelini has accomplished. Feel free to let me know when Pelini has a losing season and (or even "or") misses a bowl.

Shawn Watson's offenses were pretty good three of the four years he was our Offensive Coordinator and he was shown the door. A winning or losing record isn't the only reason a coach may be let go or encouraged to move on.

yeah, but his inability to adapt and the fact that at times he just made dumb calls (throwing on 3rd and short is a prime example) are the reasons he failed...

His "offenses" wasted two of the best defenses this program has had in a very long time. Go back and watch the Big XII title game against Oklahoma, thats a prime example...

 

[Ric Flair]

You would have been better off if you just stuck with your theory. Trying to allude that saying they are "tight" with each other is a cry for help in some Freudian way is really stretching it a bit.
Its just your theory.

My theory about the blowout losses is that yes ,there are too many by Nebraska lately, but I see way too many period in college football these days. Lots of good teams have been blown out in recent years.

Not just NU but Clemson vs. WVa in bowl game/ Louisville vs. Florida bowl game, Florida vs. S. Carolina regular season last year can't remember who won. KSU loses to Baylor bad last year etc. That's just 4 I thought of off the top of my head out side of Nebraska.

I think kids just have a different make up than they used to. I think, in general, they don't have as much fight in them when things really go bad. Call it lack of mental toughness or culture if you want, but it happens a lot more than it used to.

You pointed to a few games by a few teams that ended in blowouts. But can you think of another Top 25 team that gets blown out as regularly as we have the past couple of seasons? Can you think of another Top 25 team that's surrendered roughly 600 yards of offense 4 times in the past year and three consecutive games in a row? No doubt blowouts happen on occasion. But why do they happen so frequently to us? Why are they such bad blowouts when they do? And if your argument is that kids across the board now lack mental toughness, let's assume that's true. So why does our lack of it seem to exceed that of other teams?

Our football team seems to crumble under pressure against teams with comparable or superior talent and coaching. Why? Based on what I know, read about, hear and observe, I don't believe that Pelini and his staff have built a culture of trust, discipline, winning, etc. Call that a theory if you want. But in my view there's now ample evidence to support that theory.

 

[Goal-line]

The proof is in the pudding. Each game is a different bowl of pudding. Bring it on. I am not from Missouri but you will still have to "show me."

 

[walksalone]

The proof is in the pudding. Each game is a different bowl of pudding. Bring it on. I am not from Missouri but you will still have to "show me."

I concur...

If they come out hitting on all cylinders, and showing consistency for more than 3 series in a row, then there's hope...

 

[Mavric]

Overall we play too passive, allowing the opponent to dictate too much to us in all three phases of the game. These coaches need to get let these guys loose, to play with aggression and passion. Too much workman-like drudgery out there.

Wasn't this the main problem that everyone had with the Cosgrove "read and react" i.e. "get punched in the face and figure out how to respond" defense? I thought we were supposed to be passed this by now...

We brought some sort of blitz or stunt on about half the plays in the first half (I haven't charted the second half). We totally changed our punt scheme to be more aggressive and had a guy averaging about 35 yards per kick return. The offense wasn't the most dynamic but how many times before Saturday have we seen a jet sweep look with Enunwa, a true lead option look, a tight end lined up in the guard-tackle gap in an H-Back look or two tight ends in the diamond formation. I simply do no feel that the statements about being too passive or basically mailing this game in are accurate. They are simply an over-reaction to being unhappy about the result.

They showed a few things like you said, particularly at the goal line, but open the play book he did not. Since your charting it, how many passes over 15? One or two is my guess. The one to Turner on one of our first drives is the only one I can think of that was right around 15, don't remember any others, and I highly doubt those WR bubble screens and handing the ball off 53? times is our our whole offense.

Just going off a quick scan of the play by play:

the tipped pass Long caught down he sideline

The Turner catch you mentioned

The pass Long dropped on third down

Turner's TD

Also, we scored on three of seven drives in the first half, our only two three-and-outs came when we hurt ourselves with penalties, scored TDs on our first three possessions of the second half and our only punt of the second half came with a minute to go. It's not like a fairly conservative approach wasn't still pretty effective.