"Offensive" issues
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WyoHusker56
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That's interesting. It does seem like it was working, but what did that outside help offer that our coaches couldn't? Seems weird, but something changed pretty drastically this week.
ActualCornHusker
Starter
lo country said:
My pre season worries about our lack of depth and quality at RB have come to fruition as well. Let's just hope that Martinez and Robinson are ok, or a so-so season may turn into another disaster
Undone
All-American
I had big concerns about both depth and quality, but then those concerns largely went away when:
1. Mills starting reading his blocks better.
2. We started seeing how well Wan'Dale can fill in at RB in a pinch.
Mills is a really durable back that's suited for B1G play. The real, underlying problem is that our line just doesn't execute blocks very well. If they did, the addition of Mills would have us in a pretty good situation IMO with our RBs.
PoloWearingBeaver
Banned
:snacks:
That's what having a system in place can do.
Their head coach is a better Riley than ours was. By leaps and bounds.
WyoHusker56
Starter
Oklahoma OL as prospects
LT .89 - 4*
LG .90 - 4*
C .89 - 4*
RG .95 - 4*
RT .89 - 4*
Nebraska OL as prospects
LT .87 - 3*
LG .76 -2* (walk on)
C .92 - 4* (tight end)
RG .85 - 3*
RT .89 - 4* (widely regarded as G prospect)
The two players we're replacing as prospects.
Jerald Foster .89 - 4*
Tanner Farmer .90 - 4*
If only there was some deference between these two scenarios...
Also of note, only one of these players was recruited by Frost in his transition class.
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PasstheDamnBallGuy
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Deleted because wyo beat me to it and did it better
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PoloWearingBeaver
Banned
That's kinda part of the point, look who Frost is recruiting to fill the lines
Michael LynnCherry Creek (Englewood, CO)
6-6 / 291
0.8614
851 67 5
Enrolled
OT
Brant BanksWestbury Christian School (Houston, TX)
6-7 / 265
0.8613
854 68 113
Enrolled
OT
Matthew AndersonLeesville (Leesville, LA)
6-6 / 260
0.8572
935 77 30
Enrolled
OT
Jimmy FritzscheGreenville (Greenville, SC)
6-7 / 240
0.8301
other than Benhart the others aren't up to par when you look at better schools.
Do you mean they aren't up to par when compared to Oklahoma?That's kinda part of the point, look who Frost is recruiting to fill the lines
Michael LynnCherry Creek (Englewood, CO)
6-6 / 291
0.8614
851 67 5
Enrolled
OT
Brant BanksWestbury Christian School (Houston, TX)
6-7 / 265
0.8613
854 68 113
Enrolled
OT
Matthew AndersonLeesville (Leesville, LA)
6-6 / 260
0.8572
935 77 30
Enrolled
OT
Jimmy FritzscheGreenville (Greenville, SC)
6-7 / 240
0.8301
other than Benhart the others aren't up to par when you look at better schools.
WyoHusker56
Starter
That's kinda part of the point, look who Frost is recruiting to fill the lines
Michael LynnCherry Creek (Englewood, CO)
6-6 / 291
0.8614
851 67 5
Enrolled
OT
Brant BanksWestbury Christian School (Houston, TX)
6-7 / 265
0.8613
854 68 113
Enrolled
OT
Matthew AndersonLeesville (Leesville, LA)
6-6 / 260
0.8572
935 77 30
Enrolled
OT
Jimmy FritzscheGreenville (Greenville, SC)
6-7 / 240
0.8301
other than Benhart the others aren't up to par when you look at better schools.
Ha convenient you mention Benhart at the bottom there. Benhart is higher rated than any of OU's current players. Corcoran who is coming in this year is even higher than that and one of the top OT in the country. So in back to back classes Frost will have brought in two players that are rated even higher than OU's. Nebraska is not going to land more than 1 or 2 four star lineman in most classes regardless. The fact we already have two high four stars coming in will be huge. Plus a lot of those other guys are rated lower in part because of the need to gain size and strength in college not because they can't play. Fritzsche picked us over Clemson.
PoloWearingBeaver
Banned
Slightly inaccurate seeing as oklahoma has a .98 5* from 2018, in the last two classes Oklahoma signed a 5*, 4 4*s and 3 3*s. Frost signing those type of numbers is what is needed. I knew you'd bring up the lower guys, atm they are underrated gems but if they don't work in a couple years then you'll say well they were just low 3*s what did you expect.
PoloWearingBeaver
Banned
And other contenders.
Moos knows it, he just mentioned it after Minnesota.
"Plus, we need to be in those high schools where the Ohio States, Alabamas and Clemsons are recruiting," Moos told the Journal Star last week. "If we're expected to get back into that kind of race, we have to have those kind of players."
Moos makes no bones about it: Nebraska obviously needs an injection of talent.
"It's a big part of the plan," he said of the fleet. "You're not going to win a national championship with all walk-ons. They're going to help. They're key in what we're trying to do. The heart and soul of Nebraska football is from the state of Nebraska.
"But the arms and legs are from California, Texas and Florida. If we're going to get back to where we want to get, we have to be challenging other championship-caliber programs for players."
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WyoHusker56
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That's great for Oklahoma, but pretend you're an 18 year old and Nebraska offers you and so does Nebraska and you want to play for NC are you really going to pick NU regardless of what they say and offer? Nebraska in the next few years is not going to sign a 5* four 4* and three 3* regardless of what we want. You don't think Frost is trying to sign classes like that? Of course he is, but those kids aren't coming so he has to get kids he has the opportunity to develop.
I don't know why people on this board seem to think that the staff is just ignoring higher talent. They're not. Those kids are not coming to a 4-8 team plain and simple whether you're the best freaking recruiter in the country. They have better options. So, in the meantime we have to get the high rated kids we can and fill out a class with kids to develop to win games and prove to those high rated kids that Nebraska is worth attending to win.
I point out the lack of talent on the OL now because that's what Riley left. If 4 years from now our OL is still total garbage I can look back and say it's Frost's fault for not getting better kids here. The OL talent issue is not because of Frost it is still plain and simple a Riley problem. A kid like Benhart is rarely going to come in and be able to play against two, three or four year starts in the B1G. The line will take more time to fix. Meanwhile the one Frost recruit on the OL has progressed this season into probably our best OL at the moment.
Husker in WI
All-Conference
I mean, Corcoran is a borderline 5*. Benhart was a 4*, Prochazka is probably a high 4*. There's progress being made there - I don't think we sign five 4* and up guys the next two years like they did but 3-4 seems like a lock. I agree last year they would've signed more higher rated kids if they could have.
The problem isn't that we're signing guys like this, it's that right now we have to use too many of them. I'm sure you can find a really good line with some lower rated players. Wisconsin's RT was a 3* .86. Their All-American center was a 3* .84. But their other guys were 4*s, and they consistently pull 4* talent and supplement with guys who outperform their rankings. Right now our line would only be good if everyone was significantly outperforming their ranking.
Funnily enough there are some parallels between Wisconsin's center (Biadasz) and Jurgens. Neither were considered olineman by the recruiting services, and they had similar size at 6'3 ~260.
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