***OFFICIAL 2014 COLLEGE FOOTBALL DISCUSSION THREAD***

This Wiscy D is looking BAD right now. Gordon is carrying them. Stave is a better passer than Mcevoy but he can't stay upright long enough with the lack of pass pro.

 
Moiraine said:
Mavric said:
Abdullah the Butcher said:
Ole Miss was screwed, that was a face mask on the fumble.
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Don't think so. He didn't grab it. No inadvertent anymore.
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In every game I've watched, that meant inadvertent facemasks count as 15 yard penalties now. You don't have to grab the facemask for any extended amount of time to get the 15 yard penalty.
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Not according to the rule book:

No player shall grasp and then twist, turn or pull the face mask, chin strap or any helmet opening of an opponent.

It is not a foul if the face mask, chin trap or helmet opening is not grasped and then twisted, turned or pulled. When in question, it is a foul.
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Mavric said:
Moiraine said:
Mavric said:
Abdullah the Butcher said:
Ole Miss was screwed, that was a face mask on the fumble.
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Don't think so. He didn't grab it. No inadvertent anymore.
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In every game I've watched, that meant inadvertent facemasks count as 15 yard penalties now. You don't have to grab the facemask for any extended amount of time to get the 15 yard penalty.
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Not according to the rule book:

No player shall grasp and then twist, turn or pull the face mask, chin strap or any helmet opening of an opponent.

It is not a foul if the face mask, chin trap or helmet opening is not grasped and then twisted, turned or pulled. When in question, it is a foul.
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Gotcha. It seems to be called a lot more, though.

 
That was a foul straight up Mav. he pushed the facemask away on purpose to the point where the players head was twisting. You don't have to grab for it to be facemask/illegal hands to the face, pushing works just as well.

 
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Army_Allen said:
That was a foul straight up Mav. he pushed the facemask away on purpose to the point where the players head was twisting. You don't have to grab for it to be facemask/illegal hands to the face, pushing works just as well.
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Continue arguing even though I've proved you wrong.....

 
Incidentally, this is why I often find it humorous when people complain about how bad the refs are. A lot of times it's because they don't know the rules themselves. You've taken it to another level by being shown what the rule is and still insisting the refs screwed it up.

 
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I find it hilarious when people assume he had no intent when its clear he clinged onto the side of the guard and pulled.

 
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Looks like he caught part and twisted, realized he had it and let go to swipe again. I would call that a facemask.

 
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