***Official 2020 College Football Thread***

Great season for the Cyclones.  Amazing when you think about it.  Beat OU and Texas, made it to Big 12 Championship game only to lose to OU by 6 pts.  End the season by making it to the Fiesta bowl getting one of their biggest wins in program history by beating Oregon and with a top 10 team.  Campbell doing very well in year 5.  Question now is can they keep it going.


 
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Notre Dame Joe said:
That's why I had resignation throughout the entire post-season. None of the other choices would have beaten Bama last night.   The #4 team may not deserve to be there but no one else does either.  Michigan State, Washington, and sometimes even Ohio State earned a #4 slot when they had little chance against #1. 

That's why college football never needed a playoff system.  They just tried to shoehorn NFL parity onto an unequal sports league. 
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Without a playoff Ohio State wouldn't have had a shot.  

Ohio State won the championship in 2014 as the #4 seed.

Alabama won the championship in 2017 as the #4 seed.

Your statement doesn't square with reality.

 
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Mavric said:
Without a playoff Ohio State wouldn't have had a shot.  

Ohio State won the championship in 2014 as the #4 seed.

Alabama won the championship in 2017 as the #4 seed.

Your statement doesn't square with reality.
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The top 4 have been remarkably stable throughout the brief history of the CFP.  Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma.  If one those four has a regular season putting them at #4 then they have the same chance.  

That doesn't change the pecking order.  Anyone you put at #4 {Texas A&M, Cincinnati, Liberty, Iowa State} gets beat down.

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
The top 4 have been remarkably stable throughout the brief history of the CFP.  Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma.  If one those four has a regular season putting them at #4 then they have the same chance.  

That doesn't change the pecking order.  Anyone you put at #4 {Texas A&M, Cincinnati, Liberty, Iowa State} gets beat down.
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Maybe so but we really don't know how a 8 team playoff would change the landscape of college football. We can only guess but I think we would have a little bit more parity over time. 

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
The top 4 have been remarkably stable throughout the brief history of the CFP.  Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma.  If one those four has a regular season putting them at #4 then they have the same chance.  

That doesn't change the pecking order.  Anyone you put at #4 {Texas A&M, Cincinnati, Liberty, Iowa State} gets beat down.
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This year, probably so.  But that's not always been the case, as I showed.  Certainly not an arguemnt that we don't need a playoff.

 
HuskermanMike said:
Who would you have put in over them? Texas a&m would have been motivated but they had no great wins that the committee is looking for to get in. It also would have been a rematch from earlier and it would have been a blowout either way. If you put in Cincy, they get blown out worse than ND. OU would make sense, but they had two losses. Yes, ND was going to most likely lose, but who would have given Alabama a run for their money? They are just a step ahead of everyone not named Clemson or OSU. 
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It's tough to say, probably OU since they won their championship game. It doesn't matter if you lose 2 anymore.  It matters if you win, if you have firepower, and if you are a hot team going into post season.  I'm not against ND.  I am against a team that loses their conference game and gets in ORRR doesn't play in a conference game and still gets in.  Alabama has done both of those (one being a championship game after losing it). And now ND did the same (lost but got in).  The committee is bonkers.  Let's be fair and give someone else a chance.  Don't make us accept it (their decision) for the sake of a brand name.

 
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jaws said:
Maybe so but we really don't know how a 8 team playoff would change the landscape of college football. We can only guess but I think we would have a little bit more parity over time. 
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Rummaging through the 2 loss bin would expose too much.  It would be shouting that the season doesn't actually matter and that G5 schools will never be given a chance. 

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Rummaging through the 2 loss bin would expose too much.  It would be shouting that the season doesn't actually matter and that G5 schools will never be given a chance. 
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P5 conference champions (I don't care about the record) get in along with at least 1 G5 team. It deceases that complaining and politics of all this. Why are we still having this discussion about "all the regular season games should matter"? They obviously don't now. 

Just in case you missed this....

SEC Shorts - Notre Dame joins Playoff Failure Club - YouTube

 
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