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Jason Sitoke said:
Hercules said:
Personally, I don't put this loss on Taylor. Like Spielman, I'd like to see him running the ball, and maybe I'm wrong, but it really looks like he's been coached out of that. He looks indecisive and has all year, and Beck has been praising him, calling him a game manager.

If Taylor could combine everything - a great game manager and a great playmaker - he'd be the best player in college football. Instead, he's been turned into Zac Lee.
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I don't believe this. Martinez's playmaking ability is overblown in my opinion. He's broken off some big runs...but athletic teams make him look incredibly average as a runner. He's never been good at making people miss. He's the guy you want on a dead run with daylight in front....otherwise I just pray he goes down without fumbling.
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I really think Taylor tries too hard when things start going bad and it just snowballs from there. He puts the team on his back and ends up making a bunch of poor decisions taking the game further away from the game plan.

 
Jason Sitoke said:
Hercules said:
Personally, I don't put this loss on Taylor. Like Spielman, I'd like to see him running the ball, and maybe I'm wrong, but it really looks like he's been coached out of that. He looks indecisive and has all year, and Beck has been praising him, calling him a game manager.

If Taylor could combine everything - a great game manager and a great playmaker - he'd be the best player in college football. Instead, he's been turned into Zac Lee.
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I don't believe this. Martinez's playmaking ability is overblown in my opinion. He's broken off some big runs...but athletic teams make him look incredibly average as a runner. He's never been good at making people miss. He's the guy you want on a dead run with daylight in front....otherwise I just pray he goes down without fumbling.
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I agree with this, but I don't think Martinez's playmaking is overblown. He's phenomenal, in just the way you describe. It's the value of that that I think is overblown. The guy has given us incredible moments in his career here, and even last year broke off a 92-yard run against the Bruins, in a game we still lost. He had maybe the greatest play ever against Wisconsin in a game we still lost.

A lot of that was on the defense of course, but Taylor's outstanding ability sort of masks the offense's overall lack of consistency, and being able to keep defenses on their heels. That's the kind of offense that keeps us in any game. That's the kind of offense we should be fielding out there with some of these guys we've got.

 
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Whistlebritches said:
Jason Sitoke said:
Hercules said:
Personally, I don't put this loss on Taylor. Like Spielman, I'd like to see him running the ball, and maybe I'm wrong, but it really looks like he's been coached out of that. He looks indecisive and has all year, and Beck has been praising him, calling him a game manager.

If Taylor could combine everything - a great game manager and a great playmaker - he'd be the best player in college football. Instead, he's been turned into Zac Lee.
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I don't believe this. Martinez's playmaking ability is overblown in my opinion. He's broken off some big runs...but athletic teams make him look incredibly average as a runner. He's never been good at making people miss. He's the guy you want on a dead run with daylight in front....otherwise I just pray he goes down without fumbling.
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I really think Taylor tries too hard when things start going bad and it just snowballs from there. He puts the team on his back and ends up making a bunch of poor decisions taking the game further away from the game plan.
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Taylor is a marginal QB at best, but a great kid, hardworker, and an admirable competitor. Him forcing plays last year may have gave us a couple of wins and a couple of loses. When it works, its a little lucky. When it doesn't work, well we lose. This year, I don't foresee us digging us out of gigantic holes because he is thinking too much and let's face it, that's not his strong suit.

 
Whistlebritches said:
Jason Sitoke said:
Hercules said:
Personally, I don't put this loss on Taylor. Like Spielman, I'd like to see him running the ball, and maybe I'm wrong, but it really looks like he's been coached out of that. He looks indecisive and has all year, and Beck has been praising him, calling him a game manager.

If Taylor could combine everything - a great game manager and a great playmaker - he'd be the best player in college football. Instead, he's been turned into Zac Lee.
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I don't believe this. Martinez's playmaking ability is overblown in my opinion. He's broken off some big runs...but athletic teams make him look incredibly average as a runner. He's never been good at making people miss. He's the guy you want on a dead run with daylight in front....otherwise I just pray he goes down without fumbling.
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I really think Taylor tries too hard when things start going bad and it just snowballs from there. He puts the team on his back and ends up making a bunch of poor decisions taking the game further away from the game plan.
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Agree to disagree. Martinez had a chance to make a few simple scrambles to extend drives before UCLA took the game over. 7 straight drives without scoring is as big reason for this loss. Beck was terrible today...but Martinez killed a couple possessions (bad pitch for a 20 yard loss, and a couple bad sacks with plenty of time to throw or break the pocket) that helped turn the tide.

 
I really just don't understand how good we looked in the first and awful in the second half. I can understand momentum but wow that was like night and day. Typical Nebraska football, once one thing goes wrong we curl up in a ball. I am a Bo supporter but the same Nebraska mentality is on the coaches. It reflects on how our players are taught by the coaches.

 
Karawithasmile said:
lo country said:
The Maudfather said:
Ameer really hasn't looked impressive at all so far this season. Dude looks really average this season.
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Sadly agree. Had really hoped to see him carry the team ala Rex. Even though he has the yrds, he looks average. Martinez, running, has never looked this bad. Instead of tucking and going North he runs around. Total regression IMO.

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Cross has looked great, but yet we don't see him much. I'd have to assume the coaches see more in Ameer from week to week... but then again the coaches aren't really earning my trust right now...
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boy, that's no sh#t!

 
Ucla was way more athletic than us. Disappointing loss. Bo's seat is warming . I am a supporter but we got outclassed on national television. (Again)

 
iowahuskers said:
I really just don't understand how good we looked in the first and awful in the second half. I can understand momentum but wow that was like night and day. Typical Nebraska football, once one thing goes wrong we curl up in a ball. I am a Bo supporter but the same Nebraska mentality is on the coaches. It reflects on how our players are taught by the coaches.
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There it is. The way Pelini's teams have responded when the game starts getting away. Lets be honest...if Nebraska loses by two touchdowns in Columbus last year, we're disappointed but not embarrassed. The team gets that look like 'here we go again', the staff panics and the players follow suit. Blowouts happen, and UCLA would've hung 60 on us if our offense looked halfway capable of doing anything late in the game. The saddest part about today was watching UCLA smiling midway through the third because they knew they were going to win this going away. They killed the clock in the 4th, which is the only reason it didn't look worse on the scoreboard.

 
Not a bo supporter after today. Lots of things I saw today which had more to do with coaching than player execution

 
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