Osborne support Bo

[Billyball]

That declaration of "support" was a lot like one from Jerry Jones. It is essentially an ultimatum from or through TO from Perlman, to both Pelinis that they are gone if they embarrass the university with out of control behavior again. It had to be said. I hope the two can conform to the ultimatum, because we certainly don't need a coaching change in this program now.

Are you assuming there was an ultimatum, or you have info on this? Pelini said there wasn't one, and if there was it was between the three of them. Fans' expectations of how this situation should be handled is much more extreme than those who actually make the call.

I doubt that any poster was at the meeting or phone conference where bo's actions were addressed, it doesn't take a genius to understand there was an ultimatum. When the chancellor who we all gave great credit to handling our conference switch, feels it is necessary to make a public statement condemning the coaches actions before discussing it with him, it doesn't take a genius to know he's poed.

You don't have to be an expert in athletic department or university politics to understand what Bo got was an ultimatum. Why do you think TO included that paragraph about what he expects to never happen again?? idle chit chat?

If you have ever been on either side of the desk as the boss or the employee called into the office for behavior that reflects poorly on the organization and the you or the boss says "We don't expect this to ever happen again". Unless you are dumb as a fence post you know you were just given an ultimatum. Expect to lose your job if ther is a repeat. Pretty simple stuff and quite obvious. I am not at all sure that Bo can control himself from season to season. The chancellor will not forget and if similar behavior occurs late next season, Bo will be let go. vaunt on it.

 

[JTrain]

So what exactly is he expecting to never happen again? Bo getting angry over terrible calls? Bo screaming at an official? Really? So the next time Bo cusses at an official for a bad call he is fired? What a joke. For Perlman or TO or whoever to think losing your cool in a big football game (not physically harming or threatening anyone) is somehow going to ruin the reputation of Nebraska the academic institution is beyond ridiculous. Anyone watch Bill Lynch or Mike Stoops on the sidelines? These guys have been having fits as bad or worse, multiple times per season for years now, and the walls aren't crumbling down.

 

[Billyball]

So what exactly is he expecting to never happen again? Bo getting angry over terrible calls? Bo screaming at an official? Really? So the next time Bo cusses at an official for a bad call he is fired? What a joke. For Perlman or TO or whoever to think losing your cool in a big football game (not physically harming or threatening anyone) is somehow going to ruin the reputation of Nebraska the academic institution is beyond ridiculous. Anyone watch Bill Lynch or Mike Stoops on the sidelines? These guys have been having fits as bad or worse, multiple times per season for years now, and the walls aren't crumbling down.

it was more than obvious Bo (and Carl) were out of control Saturday night like few coaches in recent times. It will be obvious when it happens again. Only apologists didn't find the behavior way beyond the pale. Now tell me how many of the other coaches you mentioned behavior was so off the charts it rated comment in the Washington Post. That is what has people who are alums, faculty or simply care deeply about the University concerned.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2010/11/nebraska_chancellor_to_address.html

 

[Sparker]

That declaration of "support" was a lot like one from Jerry Jones. It is essentially an ultimatum from or through TO from Perlman, to both Pelinis that they are gone if they embarrass the university with out of control behavior again. It had to be said. I hope the two can conform to the ultimatum, because we certainly don't need a coaching change in this program now.

Are you assuming there was an ultimatum, or you have info on this? Pelini said there wasn't one, and if there was it was between the three of them. Fans' expectations of how this situation should be handled is much more extreme than those who actually make the call.

I doubt that any poster was at the meeting or phone conference where bo's actions were addressed, it doesn't take a genius to understand there was an ultimatum. When the chancellor who we all gave great credit to handling our conference switch, feels it is necessary to make a public statement condemning the coaches actions before discussing it with him, it doesn't take a genius to know he's poed.

You don't have to be an expert in athletic department or university politics to understand what Bo got was an ultimatum. Why do you think TO included that paragraph about what he expects to never happen again?? idle chit chat?

If you have ever been on either side of the desk as the boss or the employee called into the office for behavior that reflects poorly on the organization and the you or the boss says "We don't expect this to ever happen again". Unless you are dumb as a fence post you know you were just given an ultimatum. Expect to lose your job if ther is a repeat. Pretty simple stuff and quite obvious. I am not at all sure that Bo can control himself from season to season. The chancellor will not forget and if similar behavior occurs late next season, Bo will be let go. vaunt on it.

I agree with the first two paragraphs, but we don't have any clue what it takes to get fired from this staff right now.

edit: I think with the quick turnover at Head coach here, the staff knows that Bo is the best they can do right now. Hes a great coach, and if they fired him now, not many people would be jumping in line. With Bo's behavior not many schools are going to jump at the chance to hire him, so he is stuck here. The school needs him, he needs the school. Bo's going to clean up his act, and if he slips up he won't get much more than another "talkin' to" or a one game suspension. I'm speculating just like you are.

 

[Stuntz 2 Crouch]

So what exactly is he expecting to never happen again? Bo getting angry over terrible calls? Bo screaming at an official? Really? So the next time Bo cusses at an official for a bad call he is fired? What a joke. For Perlman or TO or whoever to think losing your cool in a big football game (not physically harming or threatening anyone) is somehow going to ruin the reputation of Nebraska the academic institution is beyond ridiculous. Anyone watch Bill Lynch or Mike Stoops on the sidelines? These guys have been having fits as bad or worse, multiple times per season for years now, and the walls aren't crumbling down.

At last! Someone else besides me on this forum has seen and recognized the freak show that is Mike Stoops on the AZ. sidelines and realizes that Bo's behavior while subject to criticism, pales in comparison to Super-Freak-Stoops!

 

[JTrain]

So what exactly is he expecting to never happen again? Bo getting angry over terrible calls? Bo screaming at an official? Really? So the next time Bo cusses at an official for a bad call he is fired? What a joke. For Perlman or TO or whoever to think losing your cool in a big football game (not physically harming or threatening anyone) is somehow going to ruin the reputation of Nebraska the academic institution is beyond ridiculous. Anyone watch Bill Lynch or Mike Stoops on the sidelines? These guys have been having fits as bad or worse, multiple times per season for years now, and the walls aren't crumbling down.

it was more than obvious Bo (and Carl) were out of control Saturday night like few coaches in recent times. It will be obvious when it happens again. Only apologists didn't find the behavior way beyond the pale. Now tell me how many of the other coaches you mentioned behavior was so off the charts it rated comment in the Washington Post. That is what has people who are alums, faculty or simply care deeply about the University concerned.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2010/11/nebraska_chancellor_to_address.html

The only reason the other coaches weren't in The Post is because they aren't with traditional powerhouse programs in primetime TV spots. It has nothing to do with the magnitude of the behavior.

Honestly, we're talking about an extremely passionate, naturally emotional person who works 80+ hour weeks in order to win a three-hour game on Saturday, and when the refs make multiple horrible calls (and no-calls) to keep him from winning, he's going to lose his cool at times. You just aren't going to completely bottle that up.

For the life of me I just can't see what is so horribly "concerning" about screaming and cussing during a football game. Do people think Bo will go off the deep end and come out of the tunnel at halftime chasing down a ref with a machete? Do they think he'll climb the State Capitol one Sunday morning with a sniper rifle? About the worst tangible effect is an unsportsmanlike flag every couple seasons and a maybe a ref taking an accidental saliva splatter on occasion.

Of all the things one could be concerned about, a football coach with a bit of an anger issue doesn't strike me as high on the list. Certainly nothing to lose a job over.

 

[Sparker]

Do people think Bo will go off the deep end and come out of the tunnel at halftime chasing down a ref with a machete?

YES!!! I saw that picture, it wasn't a machete, but someone has a picture of him swinging a bloody sword around. True story.

 

[BigWillie]

At any other major program the administration and the coaching staff would be canabalizing eachother by now, throwing around blame and excuses like frisbees. All while the media would sit perched like vulchers with cameras and tape recorders, documenting it all with hopes of chumming the water in hopes that the program and those involved devour eachother.

Nebraska simply responded quick with confidence, poise, and precision. The A.D. (T.O.) showed support for the coach and pointed out only positives the coaching staff and the program have had. Neutralizing what could have been "easy pickins'" for the media vultures. T.O. knows all to well that no one, one game, or one incident is larger than the program itself.

This is what makes NEBRASKA football great.

You seriously think it is a good idea for TO to say something like ..

"Bo has indicated that events such as those will not happen again. I take him at his word, and agree that it is very important that going forward we do not see a recurrence.”

Our entire AD has muffed this situation. Instead of focusing in on what happened with the complete bias in the foul disparity, our AD and Chancellor took it upon themselves to publicly call out our own coach. WHY? In no fricken' way should this week be about us, it should be solely about the B12 and that officiating crew. Our AD needed to respond publicly to what happened there, sticking up for our coaching staff, sticking up for our players, sticking up for our University, and sticking up for our fans. Instead, they choose to ignore that and focus only on our coach.

What is worse - the public perception of this makes us look horrid. Not only from a national perspective because we had the need to publicly call out our coach bringing TONS more attention to the situation, but what do you think the perception from other coaches is now? Do you think other coaches are going to be chomping at the bit to come to a university where they now know that the AD and administration will not have their backs?

All that needed to be said - "it's an internal matter and will be handled as such." Done. But instead, we publicly call out our coach, force him to use his PC to apologize to a group of officials who royally screwed him, and allowed the national media to pick up on this.

If you want to applaud them for absolutely doing the wrong thing, then yes, you should applaud them.

But at least they complained privately to the B12 about the officials. Great way to handle that one! Oh, wait. :facepalm:

 

[I See Red People]

I am sure that Bo will have 6,7,8, or 25 sticks of gum so that the refs won't be able to understand a word he is saying just to be on the safe side.

its not gum it is shards of broken glass.

Yes this. Bo often likes to clench broken glass shards in his hands when trying to maintain his composure. Just check out video of him from the 2009 heisman ceremony.

 

[Stuntz 2 Crouch]

At any other major program the administration and the coaching staff would be canabalizing eachother by now, throwing around blame and excuses like frisbees. All while the media would sit perched like vulchers with cameras and tape recorders, documenting it all with hopes of chumming the water in hopes that the program and those involved devour eachother.

Nebraska simply responded quick with confidence, poise, and precision. The A.D. (T.O.) showed support for the coach and pointed out only positives the coaching staff and the program have had. Neutralizing what could have been "easy pickins'" for the media vultures. T.O. knows all to well that no one, one game, or one incident is larger than the program itself.

This is what makes NEBRASKA football great.

You seriously think it is a good idea for TO to say something like ..

"Bo has indicated that events such as those will not happen again. I take him at his word, and agree that it is very important that going forward we do not see a recurrence.”

Our entire AD has muffed this situation. Instead of focusing in on what happened with the complete bias in the foul disparity, our AD and Chancellor took it upon themselves to publicly call out our own coach. WHY? In no fricken' way should this week be about us, it should be solely about the B12 and that officiating crew. Our AD needed to respond publicly to what happened there, sticking up for our coaching staff, sticking up for our players, sticking up for our University, and sticking up for our fans. Instead, they choose to ignore that and focus only on our coach.

What is worse - the public perception of this makes us look horrid. Not only from a national perspective because we had the need to publicly call out our coach bringing TONS more attention to the situation, but what do you think the perception from other coaches is now? Do you think other coaches are going to be chomping at the bit to come to a university where they now know that the AD and administration will not have their backs?

All that needed to be said - "it's an internal matter and will be handled as such." Done. But instead, we publicly call out our coach, force him to use his PC to apologize to a group of officials who royally screwed him, and allowed the national media to pick up on this.

If you want to applaud them for absolutely doing the wrong thing, then yes, you should applaud them.

But at least they complained privately to the B12 about the officials. Great way to handle that one! Oh, wait. :facepalm:

Yes. Compared to how bad this could have been, this was minimal and a great response by T.O. He threw those that are upset with Pelini's behavior a bone and basically said it's handled and done. Damage control, check.

Now on to more important issues like CU and the Big-12 championship.

 

[BigWillie]

Yes. Compared to how bad this could have been, this was minimal and a great response by T.O. He threw those that are upset with Pelini's behavior a bone and basically said it's handled and done. Damage control, check.

Now on to more important issues like CU and the Big-12 championship.

Damage control, from who? Some B12 bloggers talking about it? OH NOES!

NO ONE on a national scale was talking about this, until Harvey Perlman decided it was a good idea to publicly criticize Bo, which was insanely retarded. Only then did this gain the attention it has had for a few days now. Without that, it is done.

Now, because of that, Bo had to take the majority of Monday to apologize. Ok, it should be done then? Nope, our AD now needs to talk about it on Tuesday as well? WHY? Why does the issue need to be brought up AGAIN?

Bo goes off on officials routinely. When his players screw up royally, he lights into him. His actions on Saturday where par for the course. Saturday was an example of the same guy he has been for 3 years. But suddenly, we need to 'control the damage'? What damage?

The only damage we made is of the self-inflicted kind. The kind where Bo is ticked he has to defend himself to his own university now. The kind where other coaches across the country now have the perception we will not stick up for them.

You want an example of how to stick up for somebody? Bo is getting full on blame after the game by local media, and now the national media for the Taylor incident. While Taylor was COMPLETELY to blame for that incident, what does Bo do? Downplay it and protect his player. THAT is how you take up for someone, and that is how you make it a smaller issue than it should be.

Our AD should be bringing up the situation between Cotton and Jerod-Eddie, but nothing. They should be bringing up the situation with the officiating, but nothing.

Instead, the media has focused in on Bo, Carl, and now even two of our players criticizing the officials? And what has our university done? Criticize our HC as well and nothing else.

It's just stupid how we have handled this weekend, absolutely stupid.

 

[notherplace93]

Yes. Compared to how bad this could have been, this was minimal and a great response by T.O. He threw those that are upset with Pelini's behavior a bone and basically said it's handled and done. Damage control, check.

Now on to more important issues like CU and the Big-12 championship.

Damage control, from who? Some B12 bloggers talking about it? OH NOES!

NO ONE on a national scale was talking about this, until Harvey Perlman decided it was a good idea to publicly criticize Bo, which was insanely retarded. Only then did this gain the attention it has had for a few days now. Without that, it is done.

Now, because of that, Bo had to take the majority of Monday to apologize. Ok, it should be done then? Nope, our AD now needs to talk about it on Tuesday as well? WHY? Why does the issue need to be brought up AGAIN?

Bo goes off on officials routinely. When his players screw up royally, he lights into him. His actions on Saturday where par for the course. Saturday was an example of the same guy he has been for 3 years. But suddenly, we need to 'control the damage'? What damage?

The only damage we made is of the self-inflicted kind. The kind where Bo is ticked he has to defend himself to his own university now. The kind where other coaches across the country now have the perception we will not stick up for them.

You want an example of how to stick up for somebody? Bo is getting full on blame after the game by local media, and now the national media for the Taylor incident. While Taylor was COMPLETELY to blame for that incident, what does Bo do? Downplay it and protect his player. THAT is how you take up for someone, and that is how you make it a smaller issue than it should be.

Our AD should be bringing up the situation between Cotton and Jerod-Eddie, but nothing. They should be bringing up the situation with the officiating, but nothing.

Instead, the media has focused in on Bo, Carl, and now even two of our players criticizing the officials? And what has our university done? Criticize our HC as well and nothing else.

It's just stupid how we have handled this weekend, absolutely stupid.

:yeah

Hallelujah!!! The Voice of Reason!!

I think everyone who is criticizing Bo needs to think of what they would have done in that sdituation. Probably would have been freaking out, probably most of us would have thrown a punch. So in my opinion, Bo held back more than i would have and most likely 90% of Nebraskans would have.(the other 10% being the ones who don't care whether or not Nebraska wins, Non-Nebraska fans living in Nebraska, and Mental Patients/Texas Fans This is who Bo is, would you rather have Bill-BlandFace-Callahan back? I don't

 

[mmmtodd]

as much as it pains me, i agree with billballs post. that is very carefully, heavily worded statement from Tom. He's as straight of a shooter as you'll find, and although i wouldnt go as far as saying that the next time something like this happens he would be fired, its pretty clear to me that Bo isnt going to be very pleased with the result if it does. there is no wiggle room in that quote.

 

[chamrocck]

I agree with a lot of what BigWillie has to say in his posts above. I actually had a another prior thread on the need for Osborne and Perlman to step up and support Bo.

Mods, requesting you merge that thread to this one:

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/49013-screwing-nu/

Why are we not taking control of this situation but letting the medial bash Bo and NU on this? The focus needs to be on the travesty that was the officiating. We need stronger support from the top and have muffed this one unfortunately.

 

[HuskersNow]

I'm just glad that Harvey Perlman quelled this situation that, without his help, would have ruined the University's image by taking time out of his busy schedule in his ivory tower to save this fine University from the evil that is Bo.