Our Passing Game In The Big 12 So Far

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This is from rojo on another web site:

[i've been out of town for ten days or so. But on returning I've done a little bit of research. FWIW... I'll pass it along. ]

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This year we have an O-Line that can’t deliver a running game and can’t keep pressure off of our Quarterback.

But still…..

…Has everyone noticed the improvement in our passing game?

Looking at Big 12 games only---eight last year and seven so far this year….

I. The goal: 60+% completion-rate.

Norvell has consistently stressed that 60%+ figure as the minimum standard for our offense.

--Last year: Dailey---47% completion rate in his eight Big 12 games (Last in the Big 12).

--This year: Taylor---59% completion rate in seven Big 12 games (Current ranking: 5th in the Big 12).

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II. Interception-rate: (Big 12 games)

--Last year: Dailey---1 Interception every 15 passes. (Joe ended up leading the nation in this dubious category with 1 interception every 16 passes for the season.)

--This year: Taylor---1 Interception every 38 passes. (Current ranking: #6 in the Big 12.)

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III. Pass Efficiency Rating: (Big 12 games)

--Last year: Dailey---102. (Last in the Big 12)

--This year: Taylor: 123 (Presently 5th in the Big 12)

Pass Efficiency Rating: (11/14/05)

1. Young, Vince, Jr. UT 175

2. Meyer, Bret, So. ISU 143

3. Hodges, Cody, Sr. TT 138

4. Klatt, Joel, Sr. CU 137

5. Taylor, Zac, Jr. NU 123

6. Bell, Shawn, Jr. BU 119

7. Bomar, Rhett, Fr. OU 109

8. Evridge, Allan, Fr KSU 107

9. McNeal, Reggie, Sr. TAM 107

10. Swanson, Jason, Sr. KU 106

11. Smith, Brad, Sr. MU 98

12. Pena, Al, So. OSU 91

.IV. Use of Receivers:

A) 2004 Receivers with 20+ catches (11 games).

--Pilkington: 27

--Herian: 24

--Ross: 21

B) 2005 Receivers with 20+ catches (10 games)

--Swift: 38

--Nunn: 35

--Ross: 31

--Mulkey: 23

--Hardy: 21

--[Note: We've had to function with little or no Tight End portion of our offense this year. Phillips/Sievers have had a combined average of 1 catch/game in our Big 12 competition this year....]

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The Bottom Line:

We’re well short of where we want to be with our offense. But the passing game portion? It's made substantial progress. We need to be aware of that.

 
According to ESPN statistics the Pass Rating goes like this:

1) Vince Young

2) Cody Hodges

3) Bret Meyer

4) Joel Klatt

5) Reggie McNeal

6) Shawn Bell

7) Zac Taylor

8) Brad Smith

9) Allan Everidge

10) Rhett Bomar

11) Brian Luke

No rating was assessed to KU's starter now or OSU's QB.

Of course, this is over the season not just Big 12 play. I also see that Zac Taylor is tied for the most INT's thrown. Taylor is averaging one INT/19.6 pass attempts. Also, there are only 2 Big 12 QB's that average fewer yards per attempt.

Last year for the season Joe Dailey's Passer Rating for the season was 110.06. Zac Taylor's Passer Rating so far this season is 111.82. Last year, Dailey averaged 6.5 yards/attempt. This year, Taylor is averaging 5.9 yards/attempt.

With Taylor's Passer Rating, he would have been ranked 10th last year and 11th in 2003. This year, NU is ranked last in the Big 12 in rushing yards/game. Last year, NU was ranked 5th in rushing yards/game.

I'm not sure why you would only use conference stats as most teams within the conference play as cupcake schedule as possible in the nonconference. Looking at the stats, I'm not seeing a lot of progress from last year in terms of passing. Taylor has a little better INT/pass attempt ratio. He's just a hair better in Passer Rating. But, he averages over a half a yard less per pass.

 
i dont really worry bout numbers other than on the score board, but i can tell that taylor has improved this offense immensely... just think if we had dailey in there w/ no run game at all... sure he could get out of the pocket and create things but he would make many many more mistakes than zac has so far this season. i see a great improvement

 
Junior4949: The reason to use the Big 12 stats is because there is no way to compare the nonconference teams. Looking at the Big 12 comparison there is a very clear advantage to this team, in passing stats, over Dailey's.

 
And they still score less and have less average yardage than last year....... <_<

That should tell you all you need to know.

 
And they still score less and have less average yardage than last year....... <_<
That should tell you all you need to know.
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Notice it says PASSING yardage. Taylor has more yardage after 10 games then Joey D had after 11. He has less int's and 3 less TD's. He is also completeing 55% of his throws compared to 49%. Taylor average 205 to Dailey's 184. If you don't see improvement in the passing game you are blind.

Then running game is another story.

 
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If you don't see improvement in the passing game you are blind. 
The running game is another story.
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:yeah

Or just a :dumdum
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They have made improvement in passing.....very, very little improvment. I would have hoped for much more by now.

Like I said, it really hasnt meant much, unfortunately.

 
Like I said, it really hasnt meant much, unfortunately.

One more win and a bowl game. It's all how you look at it. Glass half full verses half empty.

 
They have made improvement in passing.....very, very little improvment. I would have hoped for much more by now.

Like I said, it really hasnt meant much, unfortunately.
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I think the fact that the passing game has made strides forward despite the ridiculous problems of the line and the decline of the running game says boatloads for Taylor. If we can get a running game rolling for next season, things will be looking much better on offense.

Junior4949:

Taylor has an almost 60%(55% for the season) completion rate in conference, Dailey was 47%(48% for the season).

Taylor has 10 INT's

Dailey had 19 INT's

pretty much black and white improvement

 
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I agree with the improvement of the qb position. Taylor may not lighting up the stat columns but the real thing that matters is how many games has NU lost because of taylor's play...I can't think of any. Dailey on the other hand always had a way of making crucial mistakes that eventually cost us the game. taylor also takes control of the offense while dailey tried to BE the offense. Taylor wins.

 
Junior4949: The reason to use the Big 12 stats is because there is no way to compare the nonconference teams. Looking at the Big 12 comparison there is a very clear advantage to this team, in passing stats, over Dailey's.
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I would say you were right if every team in the Big 12 played every team in the Big 12. However, NU hasn't even played the best team in the Big 12 (Texas). Last year, we did play the best team (OU). We haven't even played the best team in the North yet. Considering the South is better than the North, how do you compare a QB from the South who plays all the teams in the South to a QB in the North that only plays a couple of teams from the South?

Last year, we played and beat a team that made a BCS bowl game. We played and lost to a team that played for a National Title. So far, there is only one team we've played so far in the season that is even still ranked. If TT loses to OU on Saturday, then we won't have even played a still ranked team unless OU jumps into the top 25.

I understand that Taylor has a better grasp of the offense than Dailey did. He's older, and he's more mature than Dailey was considering Dailey was just a true sophomore. Taylor supposedly played in a system similar to NU's when he was in JuCo. Dailey came from running the option and had very little game experience going into the season. You can say all you want about the INT's, but Taylor's INT to pass attempt ratio is not a lot better than Dailey's was last year. I'm not going to do it because I guess I'm just not that interested, but I would assume if you did it based on statistical deviations there's no statistical difference between Dailey and Taylor.

I guess my whole point is that the passing stats in themselves are not much better than last year. Taylor does have a better grasp of the system and the offense than Dailey did. Taylor also has a better defense to rely on than Dailey did. The fact of the matter is we will finish in exactly the same place we did last year in the North if we lose to CU. The points for and the points against also look very similar to last year when comparing the two years. Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind of guy, but I just don't see much improvement in not only the passing offense but also the entire offense.

 
Taylor is averaging one INT/19.6 pass attempts.
Taylor has a little better INT/pass attempt ratio.
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I'm no math stud but isn't 10 int in 356 attempts equal 1 per every 35.6? Dailey on the other hand was 19 int in 310 attempts for 1 every 16.3. I think your figures are per completion. At that rate Dailey was 1 per every 8 completions. That is a big difference if you ask me.

 
Taylor is averaging one INT/19.6 pass attempts. 
Taylor has a little better INT/pass attempt ratio.
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I'm no math stud but isn't 10 int in 356 attempts equal 1 per every 35.6? Dailey on the other hand was 19 int in 310 attempts for 1 every 16.3. I think your figures are per completion. At that rate Dailey was 1 per every 8 completions. That is a big difference if you ask me.
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Oops, my bad. Sorry, didn't mean to mislead anyone. Yeah, there is quite a big of difference, but I stand behind the rest of my post.

 
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