Pederson in fantasy land.

"We will not surrender the Big XII to the likes of Texas and Oklahoma."

That prior quote from Pedersen himself should lead to the justification of his firing. This article just feeds fuel to the fire. It's time to bring Nebraska back to glory. RESTORE THE ORDER! (Only for real this time!)

:asshat

 
"I've always believed some of the most memorable experiences you have in athletics are when you go through the toughest times together," Pederson said.
Yes, they are memorable, but not in a good way.

My idea of a Nebraska "memorable experience" is Tommie Frazier and Co. smashing Florida's face in during the '95 Fiesta bowl. This garbage team doesn't deserve my time, let alone a precious portion of my cranial capacity.
"Remember when we sucked really bad? Those were great times."

 
"Earlier in my career, I got maybe more emotional and reactive than I should have."

Is that... no... it can't be a smidge of regret, can it?
Over the last seven or eight years, I've tried to keep that a little bit in check."

That would mean he hasnt been emotional or anything in the last 8 years, so to answer your question NO

 
"Earlier in my career, I got maybe more emotional and reactive than I should have."

Is that... no... it can't be a smidge of regret, can it?
Over the last seven or eight years, I've tried to keep that a little bit in check."

That would mean he hasnt been emotional or anything in the last 8 years, so to answer your question NO
Ach, you're right. Of course he's not going to admit to having made a mistake in his job.

 
"Earlier in my career, I got maybe more emotional and reactive than I should have."

Is that... no... it can't be a smidge of regret, can it?
Over the last seven or eight years, I've tried to keep that a little bit in check."

That would mean he hasnt been emotional or anything in the last 8 years, so to answer your question NO
Ach, you're right. Of course he's not going to admit to having made a mistake in his job.

Look, any true Nebraska fan is not going to wish for defeat. Believe me, that will not solve anything and by making recruiting even tougher cause more problems. The right thing is for Calahan to take charge and find some defense. But above that, this team needs a college coach, not an NFL guy. I was impressed that Pederson hired Calahan to be honest but it just isn't working out. NFL guys have trouble in college for the most part...not always USC lovers, but the college game differs from the professional game with emotion. College kids need to be pumped up. One previous post said the players deserve better and that is absolutely the truth. For Pederson to make his comments about the players I found to be somewhat inappropriate. It should not be up to him to keep the players focused or whatever it was he said.

The players are Calahans responsibility and I have a feeling there is going to be a backlash sooner or later. This whole thing just doesn't feel right. There is something in the way the players are complaining about the fans and using talking points about fixing things that just seems contrived and too controlled. Sooner or later one of them is going to snap and tell the media what is really happening behind the scenes. My feeling is the ship is sinking faster than we realize and the players are not in full support of their coach. None of them thought this would happen. They came to Nebraska to play for the National Championship.

 
I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

X
unbelievable words that come from someone who claims to be a fan. how can anyone truly hope that their team is destroyed and loses all of the remaining games by a large margine

you are a fair weather fan, that jumps ship at the first sign of trouble.
Ah, yes, the Koolaide Man cometh. I expected something like this might come up.

My position actually stems from a fandom deeper than the fickle week to week emotions of some. I have come to realize, as most are beginning to on this board, that Callhan will do this whether I wish it or not. He and his incompetent staff have already destroyed what was left of the program after Solich, and if you need any further evidence than has been catalogued and demonstrated so far, you have my pity. Seeing as Callahan has an extention along with that cancerous AD Pederson, the likelihood of removing him is dismal...provided the storm does not worsen to the point of crisis. The best chance we have of ridding ourselves of the Callahan disease is to have it all but kill the host. As painful as it will be to watch, it is the quickest and most realistic way to give our program hope again.

At no point is my fanship of Nebraska in question. I have nothing but the deepest love and commitment to this program and our tradition. However this team and coaching staff are the worst we've seen in decades. The coaching is mainly the issue, as I believe a proper staff could probably get a lot more out of the talent than we've seen. The best course of action at this point is to tear the bandaid off and let the blood flow. Only at near-death will a transfusion be given––if we're fortunate. The fans have little power to bring about change directly. Even the options we do have will likely be met with little resolve. Because of this I believe the most logical sequence of events which will lead to success is a valley of unprecedented purportions. I hope it occurs quickly, so we can get back on track with real coaches, players that don't quit, and A TEAM that plays mean, inspired football.

X

At no point is my fanship of Nebraska in question. here is my response to that using your words

I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

Now I may be called a koolaid drinker or sunshine pumper or anything else you feel like spewing out of your pie hole but I as a fan will NEVER wish total destruction on our team. That makes as much sense as people burning their neighborhoods in protest of something. YOU MAKE NO FRICKIN SENSE and I for one don't care what you think. I will support these players and this team each and every week wanting a win.

Greatest fans in college football, I do not think so, we should be ashamed of ourselves if we start asking for lopsided losses just to prove a point.

Your opinion on this is total bullsh#t in my opinion :madash

 
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LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- Nebraska athletic director Steve Pederson pledged his support Monday night to Bill Callahan and the rest of the football coaching staff in the wake of a 35-point loss to Missouri.

sunday night, however, he locked himself in his office, hid under his desk, went fetal and started to rock himself back and forth mumbling, "ohgodwhathaveidone? ohgodwhathaveidone? ohgodwhathaveidone?"

"What I've tried to do is be supportive and encouraging and make sure our coaches and players know we have tremendous confidence in them, belief in them, and we're doing all we can to help them succeed," Pederson said on his weekly radio show on the Husker Sports Network.

actually, what he means is, "what i've tried to do is be supportive because i've found that when leave sobbing voice mails detailing how he's breaking me at bill's home phone number, i get a less than positive response."

"We just don't leave people hanging out."

"unless your name is frank solich and finish 7-7 one year and then 9-3 the next. then it's OVER THE SIDE WIT' YA, swabbie!!! ARRRRRH!!!"

when pressed as to why he was suddenly speaking like a pirate, peterson had no comment.

"That's not my way."

pederson then sat for five minutes and giggled to himself when he thought back to how he changed the locks on solich's office right after the colorado game.

ah... good times...

"We're keeping them pepped up and focused, our players in particular. It's important that they get rejuvenated."

steve pederson then broke down again and started to weep like a little girl for about a minute and a half.

Pederson did not take calls from listeners.

and oddly enough, listeners were not surprised that pederson wasn't interesting in anything the fans had to say.

Fan unrest has been fueled by four straight uninspired defensive performances. The Cornhuskers (4-2, 1-1 Big 12) have allowed 600 yards in two of their past three games and have surrendered 40 points in three games for the first time since 1943.

and that was back when all the draft eligible youngsters where overseas fighting nazis and the imperial japanese.

just think about that one for a bit.

The Huskers were booed in the second half of a 41-40 win over 23-point underdog Ball State. They beat Iowa State 35-17 the following week, but the defense was on the field for 102 plays against the Big 12's bottom-ranked offense.

... but huskernation felt that there was a chance to recover. until...

... Missouri's Chase Daniel passed for a career-high 401 yards, and the Tigers gashed the Huskers for more than 600 yards while beating them 41-6. Nebraska's offense failed to score a touchdown for the first time in 33 games.

*sob!*

Pederson said he has tried to maintain a "steady hand" as the Huskers have struggled.

"steady hand" or "hands choking the life out of huskernation?" YOU MAKE THE CALL!

but steve wasn't done yet...

"First and foremost, you have to believe you're going the right direction," he said.

D E N I A L !

it ain't just a river in egypt any more!

"As we all know, there are going to be wins and losses. Earlier in my career, I got maybe more emotional and reactive than I should have.

pedersen then produced a bottle of pills from his jacket and shook them up a bit.

"but now that i'm taking these babies, i'm gellin' like felon!" exclaimed peterson. " i can't tell you what they are, 'cause they ain't exactly 'legal' as the cops would say."

pederson did the air quotes-thing with his hands when he said "legal," much to the annoyance of the press corps.

"Over the last seven or eight years, I've tried to keep that a little bit in check."

check yourself before you wreck yourself.

or in this case, your rich college football tradition.

but you get the idea.

Pederson said the coaches and players have high character...

... which is a good consolation given they can't play for nothing on the gridiron.

"and I believe these are times where you call on your own character to get you through these things."

unfortunately, the character the nebraska football has called-up is horshack from "welcome back, kotter".

these are the end times, folks.

He said it's important for the coaches and players to unify during tough times.

because when they're all together in one spot, it's a whole lot easier runnin' them outta town.

"I've always believed some of the most memorable experiences you have in athletics are when you go through the toughest times together," Pederson said.

"someday we're all gonna look back at all of this and laugh," chuckled pederson. "... i hope."

 
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"First and foremost, you have to believe you're going the right direction," he said.
Yes, because we all know believing something makes it true. If you're in Pederson's sinking ship, it probably is more comfortable to believe that this will all work out in the end. But I got news for him and the few Callahaners with balls enough to maintain your errant ways: this is a dream, a fiction, a pleasant story Pederson tells himself (and you will have to tell yourself) in order to block out the harsh and sad reality that he has single-handedly ruined one of the greatest football dynasties in the sport. I would have rolled the dice with Solich and Pelini had I known the program would sink this far. The results might have been the same, but somehow I think on defense we would have managed to stay in it.

I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

X
I cannot agree with you in hoping Cally detroys the team and we lose the rest or our games by a large margin. That just seems insane. However, I do understand that your ultimate goal of your wish of destruction, is to bring about CHANGE....and quickly.

Change is needed and the sooner the better however........your approach is like cutting off your leg because it broke. I think we can find other ways to "fix it" before we have to go to extremes. Do I know what the answer is on how we fix it? No I do not. However, I do know there are many steps and things we can do along the road to change. I also recognize there will always be a backlashe or sometimes resistance with any change. Everyone always has a better idea. We could start with letting some jr. coaches or assistants go (I would put COZ in this category). However, if we do let some coaches go, it could upset the chemistry of the team, we could lose potential recruits, perhaps there will not be a suitable replacement? The other side...the chemistry could improve on the team with a new coach, we gain better recruits...who knows, but we have to try these things.

Now, with all of that said....if I were in Cally's shoes I would appy the OODA loop. (Observe, Orient, Decide and Act) on the current state of the team. As I have already been through the OOD part of the loop, I believe my first ACT would be to start looking for a new DC quietly.

 
Never trust a man who uses phrases like "pepped up."

That said, I'm not jumping on/off any bandwagon until we play Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas, Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado. There's quite a few games left in this season. It's disconcerting to know that we are essentially 2 games behind Missouri, but who else can you count on to choke more spectacularly than Mizzou? Saturday sucked, but it's no reason to act like a ********. Go 'Skers, now and forever.

Call it Kool-Aid, or don't. Nebraska fans aren't fickle.

 
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I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

X
unbelievable words that come from someone who claims to be a fan. how can anyone truly hope that their team is destroyed and loses all of the remaining games by a large margine

you are a fair weather fan, that jumps ship at the first sign of trouble.
Ah, yes, the Koolaide Man cometh. I expected something like this might come up.

My position actually stems from a fandom deeper than the fickle week to week emotions of some. I have come to realize, as most are beginning to on this board, that Callhan will do this whether I wish it or not. He and his incompetent staff have already destroyed what was left of the program after Solich, and if you need any further evidence than has been catalogued and demonstrated so far, you have my pity. Seeing as Callahan has an extention along with that cancerous AD Pederson, the likelihood of removing him is dismal...provided the storm does not worsen to the point of crisis. The best chance we have of ridding ourselves of the Callahan disease is to have it all but kill the host. As painful as it will be to watch, it is the quickest and most realistic way to give our program hope again.

At no point is my fanship of Nebraska in question. I have nothing but the deepest love and commitment to this program and our tradition. However this team and coaching staff are the worst we've seen in decades. The coaching is mainly the issue, as I believe a proper staff could probably get a lot more out of the talent than we've seen. The best course of action at this point is to tear the bandaid off and let the blood flow. Only at near-death will a transfusion be given––if we're fortunate. The fans have little power to bring about change directly. Even the options we do have will likely be met with little resolve. Because of this I believe the most logical sequence of events which will lead to success is a valley of unprecedented purportions. I hope it occurs quickly, so we can get back on track with real coaches, players that don't quit, and A TEAM that plays mean, inspired football.

X

At no point is my fanship of Nebraska in question. here is my response to that using your words

I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

Now I may be called a koolaid drinker or sunshine pumper or anything else you feel like spewing out of your pie hole but I as a fan will NEVER wish total destruction on our team. That makes as much sense as people burning their neighborhoods in protest of something. YOU MAKE NO FRICKIN SENSE and I for one don't care what you think. I will support these players and this team each and every week wanting a win.

Greatest fans in college football, I do not think so, we should be ashamed of ourselves if we start asking for lopsided losses just to prove a point.

Your opinion on this is total bullsh#t in my opinion :madash
Scenario 1: Callahan loses every game by a large margin for the rest of the season, or enough of them where Husker Nation is so disillusioned by his efforts that the staff has no choice but to leave. Since Pederson has made his bed with Callahan, we might even be lucky enough to lose them both in one fell swoop. If a sequence of heavy losses plays out, it is exceedingly likely that either Callahan will resign, or the rage burning in the fan base will be so great that the Regents/Powers that Be will have no choice but to fire him despite his recent extension.

Scenario 2: Callahan manages to win a couple more games, maybe even enough to get us into a bowl game. Because of the lowered expectations which have arisen in the wake of many losses, it is likely that enough people will consider Callahan's achievement a success. If he wins out, I won't have an argument, but the more likely scenario is that we win 1-3 more games this season and loses the rest, including whatever bowl game we're lucky enough to attend. Because Callahan manages to salvage some of the season in this scenario, it is unlikely we will have enough grounds to fire him sooner rather than later. Thus, we will have to experience his worthless coaching abilities for many seasons to come. I hope no one still harbors and illusions about Callahan being able to get us back into the elite of college football––the reasons are as manifest as they are many.

Scenario 3: Callahan loses enough games yet this season that the fanbase rises up in protest, boycotts the stadium, casts off the advertisers, and buys none of the PPV packages offered. The university, having lost too much money to support any other action, fires Callahan and his staff.

Of options one and three, I have very little faith that three could be carried out by this fanbase. Therefore I eliminate it as a course of action. Of the two remaining, option one, though painful, brings about the quickest and most decisive results.

Now if you want to defend Callahan regardless, and really do think that he is the future of Nebraska football, by all means, give me your best shot. But otherwise my position makes perfect sense; you simply are having trouble understanding it.

X

 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...n.ap/index.html

"First and foremost, you have to believe you're going the right direction," he said.
Yes, because we all know believing something makes it true. If you're in Pederson's sinking ship, it probably is more comfortable to believe that this will all work out in the end. But I got news for him and the few Callahaners with balls enough to maintain your errant ways: this is a dream, a fiction, a pleasant story Pederson tells himself (and you will have to tell yourself) in order to block out the harsh and sad reality that he has single-handedly ruined one of the greatest football dynasties in the sport. I would have rolled the dice with Solich and Pelini had I known the program would sink this far. The results might have been the same, but somehow I think on defense we would have managed to stay in it.

I take no joy in any of this, but it is my sincere hope that Callahan truly manages to destroy this team by the end of the season, losing nearly all our remaining games and by a large margin. This way at least we may be able to rid ourselves of him soon, and not have to suffer through many more years of mediocrity with nothing but more bullsh#t and excuses to comfort us in the future.

X
I cannot agree with you in hoping Cally detroys the team and we lose the rest or our games by a large margin. That just seems insane. However, I do understand that your ultimate goal of your wish of destruction, is to bring about CHANGE....and quickly.

Change is needed and the sooner the better however........your approach is like cutting off your leg because it broke. I think we can find other ways to "fix it" before we have to go to extremes. Do I know what the answer is on how we fix it? No I do not. However, I do know there are many steps and things we can do along the road to change. I also recognize there will always be a backlashe or sometimes resistance with any change. Everyone always has a better idea. We could start with letting some jr. coaches or assistants go (I would put COZ in this category). However, if we do let some coaches go, it could upset the chemistry of the team, we could lose potential recruits, perhaps there will not be a suitable replacement? The other side...the chemistry could improve on the team with a new coach, we gain better recruits...who knows, but we have to try these things.

Now, with all of that said....if I were in Cally's shoes I would appy the OODA loop. (Observe, Orient, Decide and Act) on the current state of the team. As I have already been through the OOD part of the loop, I believe my first ACT would be to start looking for a new DC quietly.
I see your position is somewhat Pro-Callahan. I harbored the same "wait and see how he works out" mentality for a long time. However in the wake of this season I see that the problems with this team go far deeper than strategies and recruiting. The team is ill, and Callahan is either oblivious to it or helpless to fix the heartless play of his athletes.

The best chance of sucess we have involves a mighty gamble in removing the current staff, but I've seen more than enough evidence out of Callahan and Co. that I need hardly even blink before rolling the dice. He can't do what we hired him to do. Period.

X

 
The players are Calahans responsibility and I have a feeling there is going to be a backlash sooner or later. This whole thing just doesn't feel right. There is something in the way the players are complaining about the fans and using talking points about fixing things that just seems contrived and too controlled. Sooner or later one of them is going to snap and tell the media what is really happening behind the scenes. My feeling is the ship is sinking faster than we realize and the players are not in full support of their coach. None of them thought this would happen. They came to Nebraska to play for the National Championship.
I think you are right. I'm kind of cringing waiting for the player or players to explode and tell all, on what's going on. There action on the field of play doesn't look right, and I don't mean there playing. I hope I'm wrong.

GBR!!!

 
"steady hand" or "hands choking the life out of huskernation?" YOU MAKE THE CALL!

"

"unless your name is frank solich and finish 7-7 one year and then 9-3 the next. then it's OVER THE SIDE WIT' YA, swabbie!!! ARRRRRH!!!"

THESE PLAYERS DESERVE BETTER.

Here are some quotes by you the husker fans

1. Pedersen is not going to say anything besides what he said. Unfortunately his job is bigger and envelops more than just the football team. As a whole the athletic department is doing really well. Do I like this? No! Its just the facts.

2. Enough of the Frank talk. We would be where we are today or most likely worse with Frank still here.

3. Yes the players deserve better. They deserve better schemes they deserve better coaching, they deserve better motivation, and foremost they deserve a chance. If i am Ricky T or Major Culbert etc and i continually watch the same players get the same results, i would be pissed off. I always believed that day to day competition fueled the competetive juices. We appear to have none of this here. The starters no that they cant lose their jobs and the backups have nothing to work for since they know that they cant win the job.

 
The players are Calahans responsibility and I have a feeling there is going to be a backlash sooner or later. This whole thing just doesn't feel right. There is something in the way the players are complaining about the fans and using talking points about fixing things that just seems contrived and too controlled. Sooner or later one of them is going to snap and tell the media what is really happening behind the scenes. My feeling is the ship is sinking faster than we realize and the players are not in full support of their coach. None of them thought this would happen. They came to Nebraska to play for the National Championship.
I think you are right. I'm kind of cringing waiting for the player or players to explode and tell all, on what's going on. There action on the field of play doesn't look right, and I don't mean there playing. I hope I'm wrong.

GBR!!!
I agree there is something really wrong in the locker room with this team! In all my years of watching Husker football I have never seen a team play with no heart, no passion, no fire, and no pride! It's horrible to watch and sad at the same time. It really just surprises me how these guys are playing with no heart.

I don't wish that we lose every game from here on out. I would love for our guys to get together to talk amongst themselves and pull together as a team. I would hope then that they could finish the season off right. I still think from Pedey on down heads should roll, but my thoughts are that we are going to see Callahan for the next 2 or 3 years so we better just hang on for the ride and hope that he gets some good assistants. However I don't see too many assistants wanting to come and work for this man.

 
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